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Jul 13, 2018 15:50:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
PeterS wrote:
How am ridiculous? Rosenstein said they communicated with several users but, AT THIS TIME, there is no allegation against those users. That doesn't mean there won't be an indictment in the future. You keep thinking that something this massive was done with the cooperation with individuals here in the US. Well, wait until Mueller is finished before you start crowing. It isn't over yet and what's important now is that your man is fully aware about these allegations and he ignored everything done by Putin and still plans to meet with his handler. You don't care about that though do you. What Putin did doesn't matter so long as your man remains in power.

As for Trumps sarcasm it just came at a very odd time since right after he made his statement the garbage about Hillary and the democrats started to trickle from Putins through his handlers. And what's truly odd is that you come from Russia yet you still seem to embrace authoritarianism. So we have Putin who is authoritarian and we have Trump who is authoritarian--why would you embrace both? Just very odd if you ask me...
How am ridiculous? Rosenstein said they communicat... (show quote)


Then why did DNC refused to show their servers to FBI????

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Jul 13, 2018 15:51:20   #
EmilyD
 
woodguru wrote:
Doesn't say it did and it doesn't say it didn't, which does not make your point that there weren't americans who knew. That remains to be seen.


"No allegation" means there is no allegation (definition: charge, claim, accusation or affirmation) in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime.

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Jul 13, 2018 15:57:45   #
EmilyD
 
PeterS wrote:
Allegations at this time. You should quit parsing the English language to get the meaning that you want.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/07/13/rod-rosenstein-press-conference/782377002/


NO - NOT "at this time" he said "IN THIS INDICTMENT"

Sure there can be other indictments, but this one does not involve Americans - None.

“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” Rosenstein said Friday. “There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the v**e count or affected any e******n result. The special counsel investigation is ongoing and there will be no comments on a special counsel at this time.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/13/rosenstein-no-allegation-hacking-changed-v**e-count/

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Jul 13, 2018 16:00:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
EmilyD wrote:
You fail to mention what Rosenstein said about collusion with the e******n, so here it is:

"There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in the alleged unlawful activity or knew they were communicating with Russian intelligence officers. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the v**e count or changed the outcome of the 2016 e******n."


I can't wait until the Russian legal defense teams show up.

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Jul 13, 2018 16:23:40   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
Then why did DNC refused to show their servers to FBI????

Why are you bringing that up. Do you think, after all this, that the FBI still doesn't know what is going on? You may take these indictments lightly but they are serious and an indication of what is to come next. Keep h*****g on to your "Why did the DNC refuse" comment because it might be all you have left...

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Jul 13, 2018 16:27:50   #
PeterS
 
EmilyD wrote:
NO - NOT "at this time" he said "IN THIS INDICTMENT"

Sure there can be other indictments, but this one does not involve Americans - None.

“There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime,” Rosenstein said Friday. “There is no allegation that the conspiracy changed the v**e count or affected any e******n result. The special counsel investigation is ongoing and there will be no comments on a special counsel at this time.”

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/13/rosenstein-no-allegation-hacking-changed-v**e-count/
NO - NOT "at this time" he said "I... (show quote)


!In this indictment. Excuse me, thanks for the correction. So what about future indictments? Will any Americans be indicted then? What do your tea leaves tell you since you seem to be reading them now?

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Jul 13, 2018 16:28:21   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:


I can't wait until the Russian legal defense teams show up.

Can't wait until the other shoe falls...

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Jul 13, 2018 16:29:55   #
PeterS
 
EmilyD wrote:
"No allegation" means there is no allegation (definition: charge, claim, accusation or affirmation) in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime.

And at this time means...AT THIS TIME! That doesn't mean there won't be anything in the future correct!

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Jul 13, 2018 16:35:52   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
PeterS wrote:
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This time this time Russian spy's and directly tied to Vladimir Putin and just before DJ was scheduled to meet with Putie making it harder and harder for Trump to deny and go along with his good Russian buddies denial of hacking into the DNC server and trying to help Donnie to become president of the United States.

Now I know you cons could careless about the Russians attempt to help your guy become president. After all, if not for 77,000 v**es spread over, three once democratic states, Donnie Boy never would have become president. Don likes to boast about a blowout e******n but it was closer than any conservative is willing to admit. Now Mueller is still doing his job tighten his noose around DJ's tiny nuts so we don't know how this is going to work out. Just yesterday, Dons henchmen in the house weren't successful in getting what he [DJ] wanted from Pete Strzok--which was some kind of admission--'yes I am biased and it directed effected how I did my work in DJ's investigation!' No, instead Strzok kept his head up and pointed out that there are layers of agents--above and below him--to insure that no bias is demonstrated in the investigation. So Strzok may well think DJ is a POS that he is but the insulation the FBI has against bias wouldn't allow that to come through in his investigation.

Oh, and here's this: just this morning DJ called Muellers probe a witch hunt and then Mueller comes out with 12 more indictments. Now most presidents would get kinda pissed at Russia but for what they have done but DJ hasn't shown a ruffled feather so what gives? Just who's side is Donny Boy on--America or Russia and that slime ball who led's them Vladimir Putin?

And lastly, Wasn't it Donald j Trump who said on July 12 2016 that the American media would love if Russia would find Hillary's e-mails? What did he say: "Russia, if you are listening" and right after that Russia started leaking what they had hacked from the DNC? Was that a coincidence or did that show that collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government was going on? And if not that there is the fact that at the request of the Trump campaign the RNC changed their language regarding Russia's invasion of the Ukraine! Why would the Trump campaign ask for the RNC to change their harsh language towards the Russians to a more conciliatory message towards Putin?
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This ... (show quote)


Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda.


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Jul 13, 2018 16:45:48   #
EmilyD
 
PeterS wrote:
And at this time means...AT THIS TIME! That doesn't mean there won't be anything in the future correct!


Sure - like son of witless says - there could be an indictment of 12 ham sandwiches...or maybe 12 turkey sandwiches. But this particular indictment does not include Americans, and the Russians spying did not affect Trump winning the e******n. I'll say that again - it did NOT help Trump to win, as you say in your original post. You are wrong about that.

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Jul 13, 2018 17:32:54   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This time this time Russian spy's and directly tied to Vladimir Putin and just before DJ was scheduled to meet with Putie making it harder and harder for Trump to deny and go along with his good Russian buddies denial of hacking into the DNC server and trying to help Donnie to become president of the United States.

Now I know you cons could careless about the Russians attempt to help your guy become president. After all, if not for 77,000 v**es spread over, three once democratic states, Donnie Boy never would have become president. Don likes to boast about a blowout e******n but it was closer than any conservative is willing to admit. Now Mueller is still doing his job tighten his noose around DJ's tiny nuts so we don't know how this is going to work out. Just yesterday, Dons henchmen in the house weren't successful in getting what he [DJ] wanted from Pete Strzok--which was some kind of admission--'yes I am biased and it directed effected how I did my work in DJ's investigation!' No, instead Strzok kept his head up and pointed out that there are layers of agents--above and below him--to insure that no bias is demonstrated in the investigation. So Strzok may well think DJ is a POS that he is but the insulation the FBI has against bias wouldn't allow that to come through in his investigation.

Oh, and here's this: just this morning DJ called Muellers probe a witch hunt and then Mueller comes out with 12 more indictments. Now most presidents would get kinda pissed at Russia but for what they have done but DJ hasn't shown a ruffled feather so what gives? Just who's side is Donny Boy on--America or Russia and that slime ball who led's them Vladimir Putin?

And lastly, Wasn't it Donald j Trump who said on July 12 2016 that the American media would love if Russia would find Hillary's e-mails? What did he say: "Russia, if you are listening" and right after that Russia started leaking what they had hacked from the DNC? Was that a coincidence or did that show that collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government was going on? And if not that there is the fact that at the request of the Trump campaign the RNC changed their language regarding Russia's invasion of the Ukraine! Why would the Trump campaign ask for the RNC to change their harsh language towards the Russians to a more conciliatory message towards Putin?
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This ... (show quote)


So what? The one's he already indicted are fighting him in court. What if he loses? Or don't you realize he could?

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Jul 13, 2018 17:36:42   #
Radiance3
 
PeterS wrote:
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This time this time Russian spy's and directly tied to Vladimir Putin and just before DJ was scheduled to meet with Putie making it harder and harder for Trump to deny and go along with his good Russian buddies denial of hacking into the DNC server and trying to help Donnie to become president of the United States.

Now I know you cons could careless about the Russians attempt to help your guy become president. After all, if not for 77,000 v**es spread over, three once democratic states, Donnie Boy never would have become president. Don likes to boast about a blowout e******n but it was closer than any conservative is willing to admit. Now Mueller is still doing his job tighten his noose around DJ's tiny nuts so we don't know how this is going to work out. Just yesterday, Dons henchmen in the house weren't successful in getting what he [DJ] wanted from Pete Strzok--which was some kind of admission--'yes I am biased and it directed effected how I did my work in DJ's investigation!' No, instead Strzok kept his head up and pointed out that there are layers of agents--above and below him--to insure that no bias is demonstrated in the investigation. So Strzok may well think DJ is a POS that he is but the insulation the FBI has against bias wouldn't allow that to come through in his investigation.

Oh, and here's this: just this morning DJ called Muellers probe a witch hunt and then Mueller comes out with 12 more indictments. Now most presidents would get kinda pissed at Russia but for what they have done but DJ hasn't shown a ruffled feather so what gives? Just who's side is Donny Boy on--America or Russia and that slime ball who led's them Vladimir Putin?

And lastly, Wasn't it Donald j Trump who said on July 12 2016 that the American media would love if Russia would find Hillary's e-mails? What did he say: "Russia, if you are listening" and right after that Russia started leaking what they had hacked from the DNC? Was that a coincidence or did that show that collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government was going on? And if not that there is the fact that at the request of the Trump campaign the RNC changed their language regarding Russia's invasion of the Ukraine! Why would the Trump campaign ask for the RNC to change their harsh language towards the Russians to a more conciliatory message towards Putin?
Today, Rosenstein indicted 12 more Russians. This ... (show quote)

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Last February or March 2018, the Russians were asked to come for Russian collusion investigation. They came, and asked Mueller to provide evidence of the case. They were not able to get one.

Now, Rosenstein asked Mueller again to indict the 12 Russian in time for the meeting of president Trump and Vladimir Putin. President Trump had this scheduled summit last April or May, 2018, before the NK meeting. The NK meeting took precedence.

Now the president is making his promise to meet with Putin. This is a very important summit to resolve the problems with Syria, and to discuss solutions with the radical Muslim Iran, and the NK denuclearization.

But the left's indictment put in coincidence with the meeting of Putin so that they have alibies to accuse President Trump or to prevent the president from meeting Putin. This summit with Putin is very important to resolve issues about war in Syria, Iran's presence in Syria to taking down Israel, and
Russia's input about the North Korean denuclearization.

President Trump must NOT allow the democrats or liberals stop him from talking to Putin. That was his executive decision to resolve critical issues about world peace, most importantly for the US, and all countries all over the world.

Democrats and liberals are trying to harass the Russians, and to create false ideas among the American people, that Russia hacked the 2016 e******n.

I hope the Russians fight back. Mueller and Rosenstein must be locked up.

All countries are hacking each other. US does that too, China, Russia, NK, Europe, and most of the countries of the world.

But nothing to do with any e******n.

It was Obama who hacked the Israel e******n preventing Netanyahu to win.
He spent taxpayers money doing this.

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Jul 13, 2018 17:36:47   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
BigMike wrote:
So what? The one's he already indicted are fighting him in court. What if he loses? Or don't you realize he could?


Of course not...Mueller is their new God, after Obama went away.....

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Jul 13, 2018 17:44:28   #
Carol Kelly
 
son of witless wrote:
Mueller just indicted 12 more ham sandwiches. I wonder wonder when he will get a conviction ?


Never. And do not forget the Russians meddled with every e******n all over the world. They didnt just single us out. And, by the way, don’t you think they’d have wanted Hillary
to win so she could fulfill Obamas promises? None of this is making any sense.

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Jul 13, 2018 17:46:52   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
Never. And do not forget the Russians meddled with every e******n all over the world. They didnt just single us out. And, by the way, don’t you think they’d have wanted Hillary
to win so she could fulfill Obamas promises? None of this is making any sense.


You know who else meddles in our e******ns???...China!!Why dont we ever talk about them???

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