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Jul 13, 2018 10:37:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Some classify Rick Wilson as a republican political strategist but others lump him in with the democrats. I would probably lump him in with the RINOS myself. Actually our government is becoming the rottenist show on earth. Most everything coming out of Washington stinks to high heaven and beyond. Both Strzok and Page should be tried for high crimes and misdemeanors and sent away for a long long time. Maybe a more fitting punishment would be to have Strzok and his wife live together with Page and her husband where they can all be happily c***ting on each other.
Some classify Rick Wilson as a republican politica... (show quote)

Now that could prove to be quite a punishment.

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Jul 13, 2018 10:39:54   #
Lonewolf
 
I have to ask you this why should anyone respect a congress who have been bought and paid for buy rich donors. And both parties have sold out!


buffalo wrote:
Gowdy: Answer the question, yes or no!

Sztrok: I would try to tell you about the history of finger-puppets because I am a patriot and FBI and words.

Cummings: Has anyone seen my other shoe?

Zero respect for congress and the process...this is nothing more than theatrics and all the actors are guilty. Wish I could believe or trust one of these clowns, but if there's one thing I learned from Obama it's that bad guys are running the country.

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Jul 13, 2018 10:40:48   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
Now that could prove to be quite a punishment.


How is your great granddaughter and mother doing, fine I hope.

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Jul 13, 2018 10:47:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
He was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy Trump’s congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. He was having none of it.

Rick Wilson, 7/12/18

Those who forget the lessons of televised congressional hearings are doomed to repeat them, which is why the morning segment of the Capitol Hill show trial of veteran FBI agent and former head of the Bureau’s Counterespionage division Peter Strzok turned into a disaster for Republicans.

Donald Trump’s congressional enablers, sycophants, and political suck-ups wanted a punching bag, but Strzok instead delivered one of the rarest of moments: the full Joseph N. Welch.

Welch, the chief counsel for the U.S. Army during the infamous McCarthy hearings in 1954, had reached a breaking point. After McCarthy’s tendentious badgering reached a fever pitch, Welch delivered a famous rejoinder that ended the Wisconsin senator’s career. Watched by millions on live television, Welch went full beast-mode.

“If it were in my power to forgive you for your reckless cruelty I would do so,” said Welch. “I like to think I am a gentleman, but your forgiveness will have to come from someone other than me… You've done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?”

This morning, it was Strzok’s turn. After an hour of drama-queen badgering from Trey “B******i” Gowdy and Bob Goodlatte, Strzok issued two passionate statements that will be the takeaways from an otherwise disorganized and contentious s**t-show of a hearing before the House Judiciary and Oversight Committees.

The first was a ringing defense of the FBI, with Strzok showing the kind of real passion that makes for great television. The FBI lifer issued a ringing defense of himself and his agency, punching Gowdy hard in the nose.

“I can assure you, Mr. Chairman, at no time, in any of these texts, did those personal beliefs ever enter into the realm of any action I took. Furthermore, this isn’t just me sitting here telling you you don’t have to take my word for it. At every step, at every investigative decision, there are multiple layers of people above me, the assistant director, executive assistant director, deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of these decisions. They would not tolerate any improper behavior in me any more than I would tolerate it in them.”

He closed with this fastball:

“That is who we are as the FBI. And the suggestion that I in some dark chamber somewhere in the FBI would somehow cast aside all of these procedures, all of these safeguards and somehow be able to do this is astounding to me. It simply couldn’t happen. And the proposition that that is going on, that it might occur anywhere in the FBI, deeply corrodes what the FBI is in American society, the effectiveness of their mission, and it is deeply destructive.”

The second was a shot across Donald Trump’s bow: “I understand we are living in a political era in which insults and insinuation often drown out honesty and integrity. I have the utmost respect for Congress’s oversight role, but I truly believe that today’s hearing is just another victory notch in Putin’s belt and another milestone in our enemies’ campaign to tear America apart.”

This latest spectacle was designed for one purpose only: the destruction of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Donald Trump’s Russia ties. Republicans like Fredo Nunes who have tried to present a series of dramatic, table-flipping reality TV moments to reach that goal have failed time and again to derail the Mueller investigation. This morning was yet another swing-and-a-miss for the Trump GOP.

Because Trump supporters live in a hermetic media echo chamber, these hearings are part of a predictable, hokey Kabuki dance. They’re a device for generating a new round of hyperbolic base-only stories that will follow the same dumb arc as all the rest. In the coming days, you’ll see Sean Hannity flirt with apoplexy, coating the camera lens with flecks of spittle as he rants over Strzok’s perfidy. You’ll see pro-Trump columnists herniate themselves stretching to turn flippant text messages into a vast conspiracy. Twitter will be a flood of moronic memes, white-hot takes, and promises that Strzok will soon be in Gitmo alongside Hillary, Obama, Podesta, and Soros.

None of it will deter the Terminator in the Special Counsel's office. None of it will change the facts of Russia's interference in the 2016 e******n, and Trump's ass-deep ties to Russian money and influence. Trump's unhinged, s**thouse-rat-crazy tweets today should tell you how deeply he fears Mueller.

Strzok was supposed to be a key in the imaginary conspiracy that Trump's congressional lackeys and media fantasists have desperately tried to write as history. The idea that his text messages poison the entire Mueller investigation was a pillar of their defense of the president. This morning they were going for a quick k**l. They needed Strzok to flail, and wilt. The Gowdy, Goodlatte, and Gaetz types needed their grandstanding, dick-waving mock outrage to leave Strozk shaking and begging for mercy.

Strzok had none of it. In this morning’s round he left the Trumpists of the House staggered in their corner, cut and shaky, wondering where Strzok learned to hit back that hard.
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Rick Wilson is a Republican political strategist and media consultant based in Florida who has produced televised political commercials for governors, U.S. Senate candidates, super PACs, and corporations. He has written in The Daily Beast, Politico, The New York Daily News, The Federalist, The Independent Journal Review, and Ricochet.
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Any one who doesn't see the evil in that guy is blind. That being said, I think for the left, it reinforced their position, although I seriously doubt that even they, the left, don't think his bias h**e for Trump effected his part in the investigations. They know it but will push it down inside themselves to a point where they will think they believe it when he said "we" was the American people. LOL! For Trump supporters, it just brought out more of the worse of the democrats.

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Jul 13, 2018 10:49:22   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Lonewolf wrote:
I have to ask you this why should anyone respect a congress who have been bought and paid for buy rich donors. And both parties have sold out!



Who said anything about respecting Congress? Last I remember their approval rating was hovering around 9%, and that's less than the percentage of those who pay no attention.

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Jul 13, 2018 11:13:28   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Any one who doesn't see the evil in that guy is blind. That being said, I think for the left, it reinforced their position, although I seriously doubt that even they, the left, don't think his bias h**e for Trump effected his part in the investigations. They know it but will push it down inside themselves to a point where they will think they believe it when he said "we" was the American people. LOL! For Trump supporters, it just brought out more of the worse of the democrats.

Ideologues love their "evil" heroes, Nwtk. Remember G. Gordon Liddy? They love or h**e 'em almost always due to blind allegiance.

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Jul 13, 2018 11:33:06   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
How is your great granddaughter and mother doing, fine I hope.

Thanks for asking, B. They are heading home later today (if not already), going by my last phone conversation with the new 'Mom.' Both her & Dad are walking on air. As for Kinsley Mae...she keeps crying for Grandpa.

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Jul 13, 2018 13:40:38   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
slatten49 wrote:
Ideologues love their "evil" heroes, Nwtk. Remember G. Gordon Liddy? They love or h**e 'em almost always due to blind allegiance.



Who loved G. Gordon? He was a certified whack job. Two stories come to mind, Liddy was being interviewed by some rag or other and presented himself as a tough guy. The reporter questioned this and Liddy rolled up his sleeve, stared stone faced at the reporter while he took a cigarette lighter and held it under his forearm until smoke and the smell of burning flesh caused the reporter to yell stop.

Another story says that Colson met Liddy coming out of a meeting at the White House and Liddy told him he was "ordered" to put a hit on Westbrook Pegler. Pegler was a gadfly columnist who pilloried the paranoid Nixon at every opportunity. Nixon was apparently venting about the latest barb and said "I wish someone would take him out". Liddy took that as marching orders and if not for Colson would have most likely assassinated Pegler.

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Jul 13, 2018 14:42:46   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
In the following, the quotes are Peter Smirk's own words.

If Stozk and a "handful of people knew the details of Russia e******n i**********e and its possible connection with members of the Trump campaign", then why in the hell didn't they do something to stop it?

Here's one reason why:

That "information had the potential to derail and quite possibly defeat Mr. Trump, but the thought of expressing that or exposing that information" never crossed Stozk's mind.”

Stozk, as Gowdy put it, has an unprecedented level of animus toward Donald Trump and his millions of supporters.

Here's another reason why:

In the heat of the 2016 p**********l campaign, Susan Rice, Obama's National Security Advisor, told cyber-espionage officials to “stand down” on developing countermeasures to aggressively resist Russian attempts at meddling in the US e******n. Why? Because Obama did not approve of aggressively resisting Russian attempts to meddle in our e******ns.

During Strozk's testimony, the Republicans asked the hard questions, the democrats obstructed, interrupted, and polluted the hearings. The democrats have absolutely no problem with the abuses of the FISA warrant process, of using the Hillary Clinton DNC dossier, of McCabe's authorized leaks to the media, of Comey's underhanded exoneration of Hillary, of the anti-Trump campaign by Stozk and Page to undermine Trump's candidacy, his campaign and his term in office. The democrats celebrate the corruption at the top level of the FBI, but they h**e all law enforcement. The dems went into that hearing solely to "GET TRUMP" and to hell with the Rule of Law, the Constitution, and our nation itself. Screw America and the millions of Americans who love our nation and want only the best for her. Liberal regressive dems have no problem whatsoever with totalitarianism.

Peter "Smirk" Strozk is an arrogant, condescending little tin god. He lied throughout his testimony. There is no doubt that he is a key player in the ideological conspiracy to undermine and destroy president Trump. With his illicit affair with another FBI official, he set himself up for blackmail, made himself and his lover, Lisa Page, vulnerable to foreign intelligence intrusion, and c*********d the security of the FBI.

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Jul 13, 2018 15:12:57   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In the following, the quotes are Peter Smirk's own words.

If Stozk and a "handful of people knew the details of Russia e******n i**********e and its possible connection with members of the Trump campaign", then why in the hell didn't they do something to stop it?

Here's one reason why:

That "information had the potential to derail and quite possibly defeat Mr. Trump, but the thought of expressing that or exposing that information" never crossed Stozk's mind.”

Stozk, as Gowdy put it, has an unprecedented level of animus toward Donald Trump and his millions of supporters.

Here's another reason why:

In the heat of the 2016 p**********l campaign, Susan Rice, Obama's National Security Advisor, told cyber-espionage officials to “stand down” on developing countermeasures to aggressively resist Russian attempts at meddling in the US e******n. Why? Because Obama did not approve of aggressively resisting Russian attempts to meddle in our e******ns.

During Strozk's testimony, the Republicans asked the hard questions, the democrats obstructed, interrupted, and polluted the hearings. The democrats have absolutely no problem with the abuses of the FISA warrant process, of using the Hillary Clinton DNC dossier, of McCabe's authorized leaks to the media, of Comey's underhanded exoneration of Hillary, of the anti-Trump campaign by Stozk and Page to undermine Trump's candidacy, his campaign and his term in office. The democrats celebrate the corruption at the top level of the FBI, but they h**e all law enforcement. The dems went into that hearing solely to "GET TRUMP" and to hell with the Rule of Law, the Constitution, and our nation itself. Screw America and the millions of Americans who love our nation and want only the best for her. Liberal regressive dems have no problem whatsoever with totalitarianism.

Peter "Smirk" Strozk is an arrogant, condescending little tin god. He lied throughout his testimony. There is no doubt that he is a key player in the ideological conspiracy to undermine and destroy president Trump. With his illicit affair with another FBI official, he set himself up for blackmail, made himself and his lover, Lisa Page, vulnerable to foreign intelligence intrusion, and c*********d the security of the FBI.
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I don't know if this is all yours, Blade, or if you picked it up somewhere else, but I think it is right on. However, the media's being in bed with the Dems, coupled with the cowardice of the Repubs, nothing is likely to come of it. What we need is about a dozen Jim Jordans and a dozen Trey Gowdys and we might start to see some results. I thought the Dems on the committee were a disgrace. I would be ashamed to say that I was associated with them.

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Jul 13, 2018 15:39:21   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
Thanks for asking, B. They are heading home later today (if not already), going by my last phone conversation with the new 'Mom.' Both her & Dad are walking on air. As for Kinsley Mae...she keeps crying for Grandpa.


Kinsley Mae will have a wonderful Christmas with mounds of presents to open and play with. Spoiled much?

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Jul 13, 2018 16:09:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
bylm1 wrote:
I don't know if this is all yours, Blade, or if you picked it up somewhere else, but I think it is right on. However, the media's being in bed with the Dems, coupled with the cowardice of the Repubs, nothing is likely to come of it. What we need is about a dozen Jim Jordans and a dozen Trey Gowdys and we might start to see some results. I thought the Dems on the committee were a disgrace. I would be ashamed to say that I was associated with them.
Plus a dozen Devin Nunes and a hundred General Pattons.

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Jul 13, 2018 16:11:39   #
bahmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Plus a dozen Devin Nunes and a hundred General Pattons.


Amen and Amen

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Jul 13, 2018 16:14:06   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Kinsley Mae will have a wonderful Christmas with mounds of presents to open and play with. Spoiled much?

Not nearly so much as she will eventually be.

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Jul 13, 2018 16:18:29   #
bahmer
 
slatten49 wrote:
Not nearly so much as she will eventually be.


So the parents and the baby were on their way home today. Man that is quick I can remember our first one and my wife was in the hospital for two weeks and I couldn't even hold her until we got home. Nowadays they are wheeling you to the front door as you are giving birth. Sure us a big difference from then till now. You going out to see them?

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