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Jul 11, 2018 21:04:04   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
bad, Thanks, I knew about some of this, but it's nice to read it again.
badbobby wrote:
Our ancient human relatives got around more than scientists previously thought. Researchers in China excavated stone tools that were likely made by our human ancestors some 2.12 million years ago — the earliest evidence ever discovered of the human lineage outside of Africa.

"It suggests a way earlier migration out of Africa than we ever would have imagined," said Michael Petraglia, a paleoanthropologist at the Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History, who was not involved with the study. "It's very exciting."

Archaeologists from China and the United Kingdom discovered dozens of quartz and quartzite stones at Shangchen, China, on the Loess Plateau, named for the yellowish-gray sediment (called loess) that dominates the landscape. The site is geologically unique in that it contains several layers of loess: a fine, windblown sediment stacked in layers dating from 1.26 million to 2.12 million years ago in the area where the artifacts were found.



Hominins, which may have originated in Africa up to 6 million years ago, include all the species that emerged after the human lineage, or the Homo genus, split from that of chimpanzees. To date, scientists have discovered hominin artifacts and fossils dating to 1.5 million to 1.7 million years ago in various spots outside of Africa. Until now, the earliest evidence of hominins outside of Africa came from a skeleton and artifacts linked to Homo erectus and dating to 1.85 million years ago. These were found in Dmanisi, in the Republic of Georgia, in 2000.

Several pieces of evidence make a strong case for the researchers' interpretation and dating of these stone tools, the scientists said.

"On the one hand, you feel excited, because you don't often find artifacts in their original context," said study co-author Robin Dennell, a paleoanthropologist at the University of Exeter in the United Kingdom, referring to the fact that the artifacts had stayed put in the original layer of sediment. But on the other hand, he said, it's important to be skeptical and careful when analyzing such ancient pieces.

"The most important point to establish is that they really are artifacts," Dennell told Live Science in an email.

To an untrained eye, the stones may look like the product of natural processes, chipped and carved over time. But the experienced researchers in Dennell's team noticed how the flaking of the stones was repeated to create lines in various directions.

The other big sign that the stones are tools: The Loess Plateau is a stone-free landscape. "There are no natural processes that could have flaked these items, so you know that any flaked object could only have been flaked by an early human," Dennell told Live Science.

The presence of these stone tools suggests that human ancestors left Arica roughly 10,000 generations earlier than previous estimates suggested. But experts aren't sure what species of hominin was actually making the tools, said Petraglia.

"It could be Homo erectus, but, because it's so early, it's also possible it's an even earlier ancestor," Petraglia said. "It really opens all sorts of questions with respect to migrations out of Africa and the ability of these humans to adapt to various ecological circumstances."

Their study was published today (July 11) in the journal Nature.

Original article on Live Science.
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Jul 11, 2018 22:49:36   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
bahmer wrote:
I have had some excellent Christian Apologists and they have explained how the earth is around 6000 years old and that the flood is what caused the grand canyon and the oil fields as well as the coal fields. They also debunk the carbon dating method that the scientists of today use and they give the reasons why. They also explain how some so called dinosaurs have been found with soft tissue on the bones which would be impossible if they were in fact millions of years old. I will stick with my bible over the scientist.
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The mechanism for creating the Grand Canyon and the rates of erosion of the rocky material are well known; Drain off from the flood could not have accomplished that since this draining occurred within Noah's lifetime. Dinosaurs with Flesh is a new one, I have never heard of that and it would imply no fossilization. These would be the original bones without any mineralization and would have created quite a hub-bub in the science world.

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Jul 12, 2018 03:16:42   #
Betta
 
Sadly, Christian Apologists misinterpret the first couple of verses of Genesis in the bible. There was a great expanse of time between "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth..." and "the earth was without form and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters."

In the beginning was millions upon millions of years ago. The original creation of the earth in the dateless past. Lucifer ruled the earth and there was a pre-Adamite society existing on earth. The bible talks about the world that then was - 2 Peter 3:5-8. There are others that speak of what went on here before Adam. Why churches ignore this is one of many reasons why I stopped going to church. It is man-made religion today and the pastors have been deceived just as God said they would be.

I choose God to be my one and only teacher. Not any church, pastor/preacher or Christian Apologist.

As you know, Lucifer (Satan) whom the bible says had a beautiful countenance, rebelled due to the sin of p***e. God then destroyed the earth in the first flood called Lucifer's or Satan's flood, kicked Lucifer out of heaven along with his minions. His demons (fallen angels) traverse the earth to this day wreaking havoc - sickness, illness, mental and physical disease, you name it all kinds of evil.

Genesis picks up with the regeneration of the earth. God's spirit moved upon the face of the waters (Lucifer's flood). Everything was destroyed. This is where the dinosaur bones and other relics come from, which are recorded to be millions of years old. They did not exist during Adam's day thousands of years ago.

I've been to many churches. NONE of them teach the t***h that can only be found in God's Word the Bible. He's an excellent teacher. Very graceful and gentle.

bahmer wrote:
While this is an interesting article I have studied under a couple of Christian Apologists and they have a totally different take on all of this including the aging process that scientists are using today. Very interesting and they still say that the earth is only about 6,000 years old and they show how and what happened to give the kind of readings that scientists are getting today. Just wanted to let you know where I am and I am not poking fun of these reports as they are all fascinating. Thank you badbobby.
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Jul 12, 2018 11:04:40   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
bahmer wrote:
But who would you call not those Durn Marines now would you.


prolly those guys in white coats

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Jul 12, 2018 11:07:17   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
prolly those guys in white coats


I don't trust those guys they would turn me over tho those durn Marines.

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Jul 12, 2018 11:07:28   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
My reply which promptly disappeared was probably not worth the time to repeat, but here goes anyway. Are you saying that Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel were chimpanzees. I didn’t read much beyond that. Science, bah, humbug!


please don't shoot the posting party Carol
to each his own

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Jul 12, 2018 11:10:05   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Very interesting. Now I know where I got my Unibrow


dunno what that is Tom
but I sure hope I didn't cause it


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Jul 12, 2018 11:22:26   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
badbobby wrote:
dunno what that is Tom
but I sure hope I didn't cause it



Not you and I did think the thread had some interesting reading.

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Jul 12, 2018 11:50:27   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Not you and I did think the thread had some interesting reading.


you're not gonna tell me what that is???

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Jul 12, 2018 11:55:20   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
you're not gonna tell me what that is???


Look up unibrow and it is scary.

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Jul 12, 2018 11:59:33   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
Very interesting. Now I know where I got my Unibrow



I hear Tarzan and Cheeta laughing in my head.

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Jul 12, 2018 12:16:39   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
bahmer wrote:
Look up unibrow and it is scary.


I looked it up
what's so scary???

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Jul 12, 2018 15:47:41   #
bahmer
 
badbobby wrote:
I looked it up
what's so scary???


It looked like the Munsters family portrait.

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Jul 12, 2018 19:13:13   #
fidelis
 
Someone please explain to this poor uneducated (me) if the grand canyon was formed by water eroding all that stone, why is one side so much higher?

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Jul 16, 2018 19:26:06   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
bahmer, I have sox that are older than 6,000 years old. Like the song says, It ain't necessarily so, the things that you're liable to read in the Bible, it ain't necessarily so.
bahmer wrote:
While this is an interesting article I have studied under a couple of Christian Apologists and they have a totally different take on all of this including the aging process that scientists are using today. Very interesting and they still say that the earth is only about 6,000 years old and they show how and what happened to give the kind of readings that scientists are getting today. Just wanted to let you know where I am and I am not poking fun of these reports as they are all fascinating. Thank you badbobby.
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