tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

greetings,I am often asked where I stand in the political arena,that would be Constitutional Moderate in link below.
I invite OPP in general to find fault with any or all of the of my eight core beliefs.looking for legitimate and real discussion without all the infamous name calling and or labels.

link: https://politicalarena.org/what-is-a-constitutional-moderate/

for the record this was posted on June 25th,due to unpopular demand(no replies) its back!

bahmer

Constitutional Moderates believe:

1 – Government has a proper limited collective role in society, but in that role people should manage government, government should not manage the people.

2 – Office holders should recognize and respect the limits of the office, work within the boundaries of their charter, and not exist for the purpose of expanding their power and influence.

3 – The trajectory of government should not be to always expand its power at the expense of the people and the economy. Mega-corporations and government should not become one.

4 – Taxes should be more proportional and fair. Taxes and regulations should not be used in such a way to pick winners and losers, promote cronyism, stifle competition, etc.

5 – Taxes should be visible and not hidden.

6 – A limited social safety-net is tolerable. For those with sound mind and body it should be a step up, not a hammock. For those who are disabled and have genuine need it should not amount to barely sustainable misery. Economic growth, real creation of wealth and a stable currency are needed so as to afford the safety-net as painlessly as possible.

7 – While some debt is tolerable, excessive debt impairs our global influence and creates instability.

8 – Government needs new checks and balances to help restrain and address these problems.

I have to say that I agree with all of your points as listed here and thanks for reposting this. I will be interested in an y follow up comments. I believe that our founding fathers had very similar if not identical views as these.

tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

Thanks Bahmer,t***hs rarely if ever lie!

pafret Loc: Northeast

I have read your credo and I find it Pollyannish. These are beliefs that are basic to both right and left. Unfortunately human nature intervenes and distorts the applications of these beliefs in every case. This has been true since the start of the bureaucracies that make up our government.

Constitutional Moderates believe:

1 – Government has a proper limited collective role in society, but in that role people should manage government, government should not manage the people.

Stated clearly and succinctly in the constitution. The people are a lazy ill educated pack of dolts who are easily swayed by propaganda and lies promulgated by our elected officials i.e. the government.

2 – Office holders should recognize and respect the limits of the office, work within the boundaries of their charter, and not exist for the purpose of expanding their power and influence.

I haven't stopped laughing about this one yet. Office holders believe themselves to be the aristocracy of this nation and they behave accordingly. They get away with this modus operandi due to my comments on one (1) above.

3 – The trajectory of government should not be to always expand its power at the expense of the people and the economy. Mega-corporations and government should not become one.

That should not be its trajectory but that is what has happened, in the name of greater security we have lost our freedoms. Mega Corporations, due to the power of the purse have become the government and the cause of this is again credo one.

4 – Taxes should be more proportional and fair. Taxes and regulations should not be used in such a way to pick winners and losers, promote cronyism, stifle competition, etc.

This one and five are essentially the same and essentially un-achievable. With as tax code that requires multiple volumes to contain and is so complex that it is virtually impossible to get two consistent opinions from the IRS it is patently obvious that rigging has taken place to select winners and losers. Couple that with politicization (weaponization) which was rampant from Nixon through Obama our tax structure needs a meat axe taken to it.

5 – Taxes should be visible and not hidden.

6 – A limited social safety-net is tolerable. For those with sound mind and body it should be a step up, not a hammock. For those who are disabled and have genuine need it should not amount to barely sustainable misery. Economic growth, real creation of wealth and a stable currency are needed so as to afford the safety-net as painlessly as possible.

Sounds great until you bury the safety net in millions of non-productive i*****l a***ns as well as domestic shirkers who would rather live as a bottom dweller than work for a living.

7 – While some debt is tolerable, excessive debt impairs our global influence and creates instability.

Our debt was increased to intolerable levels and is precariously poised to destroy the worlds economy. Turning over control of our economy to a consortium of banks was a license to steal and steal they did. Bailing out the Mega Corps and Banks when they gambled the money, allowed them to play craps and assigned the payment for their losses to us. None of them were too big to fail; they should have failed and their executive suites should be in jail cells instead of living the high life. We protected the earnings of the one tenth of one percent who get the lions share of the nations wealth. All of us have seen our own earnings and savings diminish in purchasing power by virtue of the funny money produced to pay the bailouts.

8 – Government needs new checks and balances to help restrain and address these problems.

If government would apply the checks and balances and take responsible control of all of the subsidiary departments as well as the economy we would be better off. Enacting new laws simply grows the federal government which is already the employer of half of the working nation. More laws equals bigger government. We need to start dismantling the feudal structure we have allowed to take over our government. Start with the military arms like B*M which engages in murder of citizens defending their rights. Then take on the EPA which has gone from improving air quality to meddling in every aspect of our lives. At the top of the list should be a major house cleaning of the Department of
state, the DOJ, the FBI and elimination of the CIA completely. Follow that up with outlawing secret societies such as Builderbergers, Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Committee.

Money makes the world go round" Shut it off. Make it illegal for congressmen to become multi millionaires while serving as a public servant on a modest salary.

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crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

I agree with all but #7. There should be non government safety net. Let private charities and the churches do that. They did for millennia.

tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO

I can and do concur about #7.
When I first came across the site and link it raised an eybrow then,however on the rest they are my beliefs and story and I'm sticking to it. It is just too bad
There really isn't anyone or party
To embrace the logic and common sense! Then I remember we are talking about a
Government run amok to put
It nicely, no sense hoping for something that will not happen.
( at least in our lifetime).
They haven't outlawed our hopes and dreams Yet.
All in all good points made in replies thus far.
Not to mention civil discussion ,thanks to all for that.

It just proves that actual productive and civil discussion can be had on this site. : )