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Jul 10, 2018 17:33:42   #
Sicilianthing
 
Explained



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Jul 10, 2018 23:40:07   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Explained


One has to wonder WHY an Attorney at law was g***med as a political operative and HOW the same attorney with no actual lawyering experience..........could be appointed to the second highest judicial bench. That's like a Medical Doctor spending their first years out of medical school working for an Insurance company..............then immediately being appointed chief of Staff at a major metropolitan hospital.

Then again, a semi competent businessman can become President of the United States. What a country, no?

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Jul 10, 2018 23:52:35   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Explained

I don't see anything except the word 'explained'.
And how is this gonna stop people with common sense from
living their own lives and prospering

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Jul 11, 2018 00:06:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Explained

CLAIM: In the United States, the lawyers' "bar" stands for "British Accredited Registry" and is part of a property-grabbing conspiracy.

ORIGIN: One of the more unusual and complicated theories associated with the sovereign citizen and tax protester movements is the belief that lawyers who are members of bar associations in the United States are, in fact, agents of the British crown and do not have legitimate status in American courts. This theory is partly informed by a false but widely repeated claim that the word “bar” in this context is an acronym for “British Accreditation Register”:

Here’s how the elaborate and confusing theory is outlined in an anonymously-authored essay called “Hiding Behind the Bar,” which has been republished and shared in tax protester and sovereign citizen circles for more than a decade:

During the middle 1600’s, the Crown of England established a formal registry in London where barristers [lawyers] were ordered by the Crown to be accredited. The establishment of this first International Bar Association allowed barrister-lawyers from all nations to be formally recognized and accredited by the only recognized accreditation society.

From this, the acronym BAR was established denoting (informally) the British Accredited Registry, whose members became a powerful and integral force within the International Bar Association (IBA). Although this has been denied repeatedly as to its existence, the acronym BAR stood for the British barrister-lawyers who were members of the larger IBA.

Almost every part of this is factually inaccurate. For one thing, the International Bar Association was founded in 1947, not in the 1600s. Second, we could find no evidence of the existence of a professional association for lawyers called the “British Accredited Registry,” either in 2018 or at any previous time in history.

A History of the American Bar, a 1911 book by the Pulitzer Prize-winning legal scholar Charles Warren, contains no mention of any “British Accredited Registry” or “British Accreditation Registry” (with “accredited” and “accreditation” being used variously in different versions of this conspiracy theory). It would also make little sense for a group of lawyers in 17th century England to form a group describing itself as “British.” Great Britain (composed of England, Wales and Scotland) does not have, and has never had, a unified courts system, instead being separated into two systems: England and Wales and Scotland. In fact, Great Britain itself was not even formally created until 1707, when the Acts of Union joined the Kingdom of Scotland with the Kingdom of England (which included Wales).

But more broadly, this theory offers a confused summary of the history of “the bar.”

In the Middle Ages, lawyers in London established four “Inns of Court”: Lincoln’s Inn, the Inner Temple, the Middle Temple, and Gray’s Inn. These were physical buildings but, more figuratively, they were also the professional associations for lawyers working in the more important English courts. A “barrister” was a legal expert or advocate who has been “called to the bar.” This is a metonymic phrase which is rooted in the physical barrier that was present in a courtroom, to separate fully qualified lawyers entitled to plead cases before a judge from (roughly speaking) trainee lawyers and members of the public. In modern times, this physical barrier generally separates participants in a trial (such as lawyers, clerks, defendants, the jury, and the judge) from the gllaery in which members of the public and the news media sit.

So someone who has been “called to the bar” has been given the right to advocate before a judge and is thereby known as a “barrister.” A “bar association” is, roughly speaking, a professional association for lawyers, akin to a guild. In some jurisdictions, bar associations are limited to barristers (as opposed to solicitors, a different type of lawyer); whereas in others, they are open to all members of the legal profession. In some jurisdictions a bar association is the body that licenses and regulates legal professionals, and in others it is merely a professional association.

The “BAR” conspiracy theory essay goes on to say:

When America was still a chartered group of British colonies under patent — established in what was formally named the British Crown territory of New England — the first British Accredited Registry (BAR) was established in Boston during 1761 to attempt to allow only accredited barrister-lawyers access to the British courts of New England. This was the first attempt to control who could represent defendants in the court at or within the bar in America.

Today, each corporate STATE in America has it’s own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law — lawyers — to do so.

They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?

A 1930 essay published in the Cornell Law Review (page 393) refers to a bar association’s having been established in Boston in 1761, but remember that a bar association is no more than a kind of guild for lawyers.

“Bar” is not an acronym for “British Accredited Registry,” because that acronym is a fabrication. As with many sovereign citizen theories, the essay builds on the shaky foundations of an inaccurate account of the history of bar associations in the United States and draws confused conclusions about the function and legal status of lawyers.

Many of these claims are based on the etymology of certain words, rather than their modern meaning. For example, the author of the essay referenced above presents the origins of the word “attorney,” citing Webster’s 1828 dictionary definition, as: “In the feudal law, to turn, or t***sfer homage and service from one lord to another.” That essay also proclaims:

Here’s where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney — one who t***sfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.

That passage is false. Wh**ever the older origins of the word “attorney” might be, the modern definition of that word is much broader. Merriam-Webster defines an attorney as simply “one who is legally appointed to t***sact business on another’s behalf.” In common American parlance, “attorney” is used interchangeably with “lawyer.”

This fixation on word origins leads to something like a game of Telephone in the logic of the conspiracy theory, with false conclusions being drawn from inaccurate or incomplete premises. Here are more examples, summarized from the essay:

Attorneys often give themselves the title “esquire”. In feudal England, an esquire or “squire” was a kind of property manager for a wealthy land-owner.

Esquires used to be responsible for “attornment,” which in feudal England involved t***sferring land and property between lords. Therefore, lawyers who describe themselves as attorneys or have the title “esquire” are “sworn oath officers of the State whose sole authority is to t***sfer your property to their landowner-employer.”

The historical origins of the word “esquire” did have to do with the t***sfer of property between feudal land-owners, but that was hundreds of years ago. This argument is roughly analogous to claiming that because the title “Ph.D” derives from the Latin “philosophiae doctor” (“doctor of philosophy”), microbiologists with Ph.D at the end of their names have no legal right to conduct scientific research because they are actually philosophers and not scientists.

“A British Accredited Registry licensed Attorney is not an advocate,” the theory goes on to falsely claim, “so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is?”:

He can’t plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can’t represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant.

His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to t***sfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to t***sfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court.

It’s not clear what the origins of the the fabricated acronym are, but “British Accredited Registry” was invoked as early as 2001 by Austin Gary Cooper, a long-time “sovereign citizen” activist. In 2003, a U.S. District Court in Colorado barred Cooper and his wife Martha Cooper from selling advice on how to avoid paying federal income tax after the couple set up groups called “Taking Back America” and the “Ten Foundation,” which advised their paying customers that they could renounce their United States citizenship, call themselves “American citizens” instead, and escape their tax obligations. In 2006, Cooper was given a six-month prison sentence for criminal contempt after failing to comply with that court order, which obliged him to hand over the names of his customers, among other requirements. During court proceedings, Cooper accused the judge of treason and called him a “N**i bastard” and a “British Accredited Registry” lawyer, saying: “You people are going to destroy our country. British accredited registry bar association, you’re going to destroy our country …”

In 2017, prosecutors in Tennessee charged Cooper, who is now 69 years old, with 10 counts of forgery and filing a fraudulent lien. The case was ongoing as of January 2018.

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In US law, the bar is the legal profession as an institution. The term is a metonym for the line (or "bar") that separates the parts of a courtroom reserved for spectators and those reserved for participants in a trial such as lawyers.

A bar association is a professional association of lawyers. Some bar associations are responsible for the regulation of the legal profession in their jurisdiction; others are professional organizations dedicated to serving their members; in many cases, they are both. In many Commonwealth jurisdictions, the bar association comprises lawyers who are qualified as barristers or advocates in particular, versus solicitors (see bar council). Membership in bar associations may be mandatory or optional for practicing attorneys, depending on jurisdiction.

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Jul 11, 2018 01:00:56   #
Sicilianthing
 
lpnmajor wrote:
One has to wonder WHY an Attorney at law was g***med as a political operative and HOW the same attorney with no actual lawyering experience..........could be appointed to the second highest judicial bench. That's like a Medical Doctor spending their first years out of medical school working for an Insurance company..............then immediately being appointed chief of Staff at a major metropolitan hospital.

Then again, a semi competent businessman can become President of the United States. What a country, no?
One has to wonder WHY an Attorney at law was g***m... (show quote)


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Anything is possible when no one follows the Framework for our little plot of dirt on this tiny planet.

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Jul 11, 2018 01:01:55   #
Sicilianthing
 
Crayons wrote:
I don't see anything except the word 'explained'.
And how is this gonna stop people with common sense from
living their own lives and prospering


>>>>

This you should be able to see this attachment if you have a normal computer or let it load the image.... wait for a bit...

Here it is again:



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Jul 11, 2018 01:10:19   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
CLAIM: In the United States, the lawyers' "bar" stands for "British Accredited Registry" and is part of a property-grabbing conspiracy.

ORIGIN: One of the more unusual and complicated theories associated with the sovereign citizen and tax protester movements is the belief that lawyers who are members of bar associations in the United States are, in fact, agents of the British crown and do not have legitimate status in American courts. This theory is partly informed by a false but widely repeated claim that the word “bar” in this context is an acronym for “British Accreditation Register”:

Here’s how the elaborate and confusing theory is outlined in an anonymously-authored essay called “Hiding Behind the Bar,” which has been republished and shared in tax protester and sovereign citizen circles for more than a decade:

During the middle 1600’s, the Crown of England established a formal registry in London where barristers [lawyers] were ordered by the Crown to be accredited. The establishment of this first International Bar Association allowed barrister-lawyers from all nations to be formally recognized and accredited by the only recognized accreditation society.

From this, the acronym BAR was established denoting (informally) the British Accredited Registry, whose members became a powerful and integral force within the International Bar Association (IBA). Although this has been denied repeatedly as to its existence, the acronym BAR stood for the British barrister-lawyers who were members of the larger IBA.

Almost every part of this is factually inaccurate. For one thing, the International Bar Association was founded in 1947, not in the 1600s. Second, we could find no evidence of the existence of a professional association for lawyers called the “British Accredited Registry,” either in 2018 or at any previous time in history.

A History of the American Bar, a 1911 book by the Pulitzer Prize-winning legal scholar Charles Warren, contains no mention of any “British Accredited Registry” or “British Accreditation Registry” (with “accredited” and “accreditation” being used variously in different versions of this conspiracy theory). It would also make little sense for a group of lawyers in 17th century England to form a group describing itself as “British.” Great Britain (composed of England, Wales and Scotland) does not have, and has never had, a unified courts system, instead being separated into two systems: England and Wales and Scotland. In fact, Great Britain itself was not even formally created until 1707, when the Acts of Union joined the Kingdom of Scotland with the Kingdom of England (which included Wales).

But more broadly, this theory offers a confused summary of the history of “the bar.”

In the Middle Ages, lawyers in London established four “Inns of Court”: Lincoln’s Inn, the Inner Temple, the Middle Temple, and Gray’s Inn. These were physical buildings but, more figuratively, they were also the professional associations for lawyers working in the more important English courts. A “barrister” was a legal expert or advocate who has been “called to the bar.” This is a metonymic phrase which is rooted in the physical barrier that was present in a courtroom, to separate fully qualified lawyers entitled to plead cases before a judge from (roughly speaking) trainee lawyers and members of the public. In modern times, this physical barrier generally separates participants in a trial (such as lawyers, clerks, defendants, the jury, and the judge) from the gllaery in which members of the public and the news media sit.

So someone who has been “called to the bar” has been given the right to advocate before a judge and is thereby known as a “barrister.” A “bar association” is, roughly speaking, a professional association for lawyers, akin to a guild. In some jurisdictions, bar associations are limited to barristers (as opposed to solicitors, a different type of lawyer); whereas in others, they are open to all members of the legal profession. In some jurisdictions a bar association is the body that licenses and regulates legal professionals, and in others it is merely a professional association.

The “BAR” conspiracy theory essay goes on to say:

When America was still a chartered group of British colonies under patent — established in what was formally named the British Crown territory of New England — the first British Accredited Registry (BAR) was established in Boston during 1761 to attempt to allow only accredited barrister-lawyers access to the British courts of New England. This was the first attempt to control who could represent defendants in the court at or within the bar in America.

Today, each corporate STATE in America has it’s own BAR Association, i.e. The Florida Bar or the California Bar, that licenses government officer attorneys, NOT lawyers. In reality, the U.S. courts only allow their officer attorneys to freely enter within the bar while prohibiting those learned of the law — lawyers — to do so.

They prevent advocates, lawyers, counselors, barristers and solicitors from entering through the outer bar. Only licensed BAR Attorneys are permitted to freely enter within the bar separating the people from the bench because all BAR Attorneys are officers of the court itself. Does that tell you anything?

A 1930 essay published in the Cornell Law Review (page 393) refers to a bar association’s having been established in Boston in 1761, but remember that a bar association is no more than a kind of guild for lawyers.

“Bar” is not an acronym for “British Accredited Registry,” because that acronym is a fabrication. As with many sovereign citizen theories, the essay builds on the shaky foundations of an inaccurate account of the history of bar associations in the United States and draws confused conclusions about the function and legal status of lawyers.

Many of these claims are based on the etymology of certain words, rather than their modern meaning. For example, the author of the essay referenced above presents the origins of the word “attorney,” citing Webster’s 1828 dictionary definition, as: “In the feudal law, to turn, or t***sfer homage and service from one lord to another.” That essay also proclaims:

Here’s where the whole word game gets really tricky. In each State, every licensed BAR Attorney calls himself an Attorney at Law. Look at the definitions above and see for yourself that an Attorney at Law is nothing more than an attorney — one who t***sfers allegiance and property to the ruling land owner.

That passage is false. Wh**ever the older origins of the word “attorney” might be, the modern definition of that word is much broader. Merriam-Webster defines an attorney as simply “one who is legally appointed to t***sact business on another’s behalf.” In common American parlance, “attorney” is used interchangeably with “lawyer.”

This fixation on word origins leads to something like a game of Telephone in the logic of the conspiracy theory, with false conclusions being drawn from inaccurate or incomplete premises. Here are more examples, summarized from the essay:

Attorneys often give themselves the title “esquire”. In feudal England, an esquire or “squire” was a kind of property manager for a wealthy land-owner.

Esquires used to be responsible for “attornment,” which in feudal England involved t***sferring land and property between lords. Therefore, lawyers who describe themselves as attorneys or have the title “esquire” are “sworn oath officers of the State whose sole authority is to t***sfer your property to their landowner-employer.”

The historical origins of the word “esquire” did have to do with the t***sfer of property between feudal land-owners, but that was hundreds of years ago. This argument is roughly analogous to claiming that because the title “Ph.D” derives from the Latin “philosophiae doctor” (“doctor of philosophy”), microbiologists with Ph.D at the end of their names have no legal right to conduct scientific research because they are actually philosophers and not scientists.

“A British Accredited Registry licensed Attorney is not an advocate,” the theory goes on to falsely claim, “so how can he do anything other than what his real purpose is?”:

He can’t plead on your behalf because that would be a conflict of interest. He can’t represent the crown (ruling government) as an official officer at the same time he is allegedly representing a defendant.

His sworn duty as a BAR Attorney is to t***sfer your ownership, rights, titles, and allegiance to the land owner. When you hire a BAR Attorney to represent you in their courts, you have hired an officer of that court whose sole purpose and occupation is to t***sfer what you have to the creator and authority of that court.

It’s not clear what the origins of the the fabricated acronym are, but “British Accredited Registry” was invoked as early as 2001 by Austin Gary Cooper, a long-time “sovereign citizen” activist. In 2003, a U.S. District Court in Colorado barred Cooper and his wife Martha Cooper from selling advice on how to avoid paying federal income tax after the couple set up groups called “Taking Back America” and the “Ten Foundation,” which advised their paying customers that they could renounce their United States citizenship, call themselves “American citizens” instead, and escape their tax obligations. In 2006, Cooper was given a six-month prison sentence for criminal contempt after failing to comply with that court order, which obliged him to hand over the names of his customers, among other requirements. During court proceedings, Cooper accused the judge of treason and called him a “N**i bastard” and a “British Accredited Registry” lawyer, saying: “You people are going to destroy our country. British accredited registry bar association, you’re going to destroy our country …”

In 2017, prosecutors in Tennessee charged Cooper, who is now 69 years old, with 10 counts of forgery and filing a fraudulent lien. The case was ongoing as of January 2018.

_______________________________________________________________________________________
In US law, the bar is the legal profession as an institution. The term is a metonym for the line (or "bar") that separates the parts of a courtroom reserved for spectators and those reserved for participants in a trial such as lawyers.

A bar association is a professional association of lawyers. Some bar associations are responsible for the regulation of the legal profession in their jurisdiction; others are professional organizations dedicated to serving their members; in many cases, they are both. In many Commonwealth jurisdictions, the bar association comprises lawyers who are qualified as barristers or advocates in particular, versus solicitors (see bar council). Membership in bar associations may be mandatory or optional for practicing attorneys, depending on jurisdiction.
CLAIM: In the United States, the lawyers' "ba... (show quote)


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I need time to study this Looney Tunes counter attack... just typical.
I’m going to Blow Effing holes in this thing Wide OPEN !
I’ll get back to you later.

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Jul 11, 2018 02:46:21   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

I need time to study this Looney Tunes counter attack... just typical.
I’m going to Blow Effing holes in this thing Wide OPEN !
I’ll get back to you later.
Sorry, pal, that info is not a counter attack, it is a statement of facts.

But, if you think that you can blow this thing wide open using manufactured junk from sovereign citizen and tax protester conspiracy sites, good luck.

OTH, if you are the patriot you claim to be and are up to speed on US law and the Constitution, you would be honest and objective conducting your research. You could visit at least a hundred websites that will set you straight on just what the American Bar Association is, its purpose and how it functions, which would include a clear definition of the term "Bar", it's origin and meaning. The "Bar" in American Bar Association has no connection, real or imagined, to an ancient fabrication.

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Jul 11, 2018 11:26:14   #
kemmer
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Sorry, pal, that info is not a counter attack, it is a statement of facts.

But, if you think that you can blow this thing wide open using manufactured junk from sovereign citizen and tax protester conspiracy sites, good luck.

OTH, if you are the patriot you claim to be and are up to speed on US law and the Constitution, you would be honest and objective conducting your research. You could visit at least a hundred websites that will set you straight on just what the American Bar Association is, its purpose and how it functions, which would include a clear definition of the term "Bar", it's origin and meaning. The "Bar" in American Bar Association has no connection, real or imagined, to an ancient fabrication.
Sorry, pal, that info is not a counter attack, it ... (show quote)


Sicilian thrives of "secret" societies, and claims to have documented proof that the British gov't. has controlled Washington for decades in union with the Rothschild bankers in efforts to restore the US to the British Commonwealth.
Oh, and Russia didn't meddle in our 2016 e******ns, Her Majesty's government did.

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Jul 11, 2018 11:32:01   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Sorry, pal, that info is not a counter attack, it is a statement of facts.

But, if you think that you can blow this thing wide open using manufactured junk from sovereign citizen and tax protester conspiracy sites, good luck.

OTH, if you are the patriot you claim to be and are up to speed on US law and the Constitution, you would be honest and objective conducting your research. You could visit at least a hundred websites that will set you straight on just what the American Bar Association is, its purpose and how it functions, which would include a clear definition of the term "Bar", it's origin and meaning. The "Bar" in American Bar Association has no connection, real or imagined, to an ancient fabrication.
Sorry, pal, that info is not a counter attack, it ... (show quote)


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You’re wrong and there is no such thing as sovereign Citizen, that is a made up term by the FEDS

The natural born people of the land are sovereign free inhabitants of the land of their states... this is how it was originally placed in the framework.

The Crap you’re brainwashed with is the Parallel system set up to usurp our true system by hijacking it and inserting this over reach of Federalist Contract Maritime Jurisdiction - extensions of territory for the Crown’s Business model run amok ... you have no idea wtf you’re talking about.

The first thing I’ll post in a New Topic again is the explanation of what Sovereign people are vs. the made up term by the Federalists so they can put you in a box classification ‘Enterprise Threat’ against their businesses.

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Jul 11, 2018 11:33:34   #
Sicilianthing
 
kemmer wrote:
Sicilian thrives of "secret" societies, and claims to have documented proof that the British gov't. has controlled Washington for decades in union with the Rothschild bankers in efforts to restore the US to the British Commonwealth.
Oh, and Russia didn't meddle in our 2016 e******ns, Her Majesty's government did.


>>>>

You’re not paying attention as the data comes forth for all to see, yep it’s truly rattling and most people just can’t fathom what’s happened... this is their end result and you’re the perfect k1 prodigy output.

See here for real data:
https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-134970-1.html

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