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Jul 9, 2018 11:06:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Media Silent As US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact
https://freedomoutpost.com/media-silent-as-us-agrees-to-full-implementation-of-united-nations-gun-control-pact/

Was not aware of this.
Of course the Liberal media will ignore it.
How about FOX?
How about Trump?

Better not happen!!!!
BUT
We have a Supreme Court to strike it down.

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Jul 9, 2018 11:35:33   #
Mike Easterday
 
We better not! Or did the Trump Administration back stab their base.

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Jul 9, 2018 11:39:56   #
bahmer
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Media Silent As US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact
https://freedomoutpost.com/media-silent-as-us-agrees-to-full-implementation-of-united-nations-gun-control-pact/

Was not aware of this.
Of course the Liberal media will ignore it.
How about FOX?
How about Trump?

Better not happen!!!!
BUT
We have a Supreme Court to strike it down.


Amen and Amen

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Jul 9, 2018 11:48:35   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Media Silent As US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact
https://freedomoutpost.com/media-silent-as-us-agrees-to-full-implementation-of-united-nations-gun-control-pact/

Was not aware of this.
Of course the Liberal media will ignore it.
How about FOX?
How about Trump?

Better not happen!!!!
BUT
We have a Supreme Court to strike it down.


It appears Trump already signed it??
I really can not imagine he would given his disdain of the UN to begin with, yet, one never knows~~

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Jul 9, 2018 11:52:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
It appears Trump already signed it??
I really can not imagine he would given his disdain of the UN to begin with, yet, one never knows~~


Trump has given us a Supreme Court to strike down UN guide lines.
Our Constitution trumps UN proclamations and treaties that do not conform to Constitutional protections.

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Jul 9, 2018 11:55:19   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Here’s another on this issue..Couldn’t believe it when I read the first..

June 29 marked the end of the Third Review Conference (RevCon) of the United Nations’ Programme of Action (PoA) on Small Arms and Light Weapons. Delegates at the conference, including representatives of the United States, worked on producing updates to the global gun-control agreement.
According to the text of the latest draft of the agreement, the PoA will serve as an “international instrument to enable states to identify and trace, in a timely and reliable manner” the small arms and light weapons that are the target of the scheme.
In practice, this means that the governments of member nations (including the United States) should create a massive, all-inclusive database of all parties that manufacture, own, sell, trade, or t***sfer arms and ammunition.
If recent history is a reliable indicator of how such data would be used, after the catalog is complete, Congress could, hypothetically, pass a law (or the president would issue an executive order) compelling “voluntary” surrender of wh**ever privately-owned weapons, ammo, parts, and components (including reloading equipment) the UN deems “illicit.” If, after a statutorily set window, citizens don’t turn in these now-illicit items to their local law enforcement, then officers will be sent to remind violators of their responsibility under the law to disarm.
The delegates — including those from the United States — present at the PoA planning meeting have agreed to begin developing domestic legal frameworks that will provide for the “proper management of small arms and light weapons stockpiles.”

Here are those six commitments, taken directly from the document:
1.To establish or strengthen national laws, regulations and administrative procedures in support of the full and effective implementation of the Programme of Action.
2. To strengthen coordinated national approaches for the implementation of the Programme of Action, including, as appropriate, the establishment or designation of national coordination agencies or bodies involving relevant government agencies, including those responsible for law enforcement, border control and export and import licensing.
3. To promote the full participation and representation of women in mechanisms relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action and to encourage strong cooperation with civil society, parliamentarians, industry and the private sector.
4. To establish or designate a national point of contact to act as a liaison between States on matters relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action; and to share and update this information regularly; and to provide the point of contact with the necessary means to carry out its role.
5. To encourage the development and implementation of national action plans or other national policies in support of the implementation of the Programme of Action by making better use of existing information to improve the measurement of progress and to coordinate the development and implementation of such plans or policies, as appropriate, in collaboration with relevant stakeholders, including those from civil society and industry, with those relevant to target 16.4 of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and to the relevant United Nations resolution on women, disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control.
6. To significantly reduce the illicit flows of small arms and light weapons, as appropriate, through illicit weapons recovery and voluntary surrender programmes.

You will want to read the whole article~~

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/29424-us-promises-full-implementation-of-un-gun-control-agreement

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Jul 9, 2018 11:55:41   #
Kevyn
 
Mike Easterday wrote:
We better not! Or did the Trump Administration back stab their base.


Get t through Your head, Trump is in it for one person; himself. He dosn’t give a damn about the fools who show up at his rally’s he sees them as nothing more than trained dogs who will jump when he says so. He dosn’t even like to shake hands with common folks because he finds them unclean. And this from a guy who beds porn stars and hookers.

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Jul 9, 2018 11:56:05   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump has given us a Supreme Court to strike down UN guide lines.
Our Constitution trumps UN proclamations and treaties that do not conform to Constitutional protections.


Yes, and I think there is much more to this story than meets the eyes. At any rate, the US will NEVER give up their guns, EVER. End of story.

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Jul 9, 2018 11:57:28   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Trump has given us a Supreme Court to strike down UN guide lines.
Our Constitution trumps UN proclamations and treaties that do not conform to Constitutional protections.


I do agree with you, yet, don’t dismiss Congress drafting bills to conform to this given our Constitution does supercede anything in violation of it..

The Second Amendment to the Constitution must be upheld.
There will be no restrictions on civilian possession or trade of firearms otherwise permitted by law or protected by the U.S. Constitution.
There will be no dilution or diminishing of sovereign control over issues involving the private acquisition, ownership, or possession of firearms, which must remain matters of domestic law.
As the Wall Street Journal reported, the U.S. ‘v**ed in favor [of the treaty only] after the Obama Administration secured its key “red line” that the treaty would have no impact on the Second Amendment. The final draft specifies “non-intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction” of signatories.’
No such treaty could “bypass the normal legislative process in Congress,” as all treaties to which the U.S. is a signatory must first be approved by a two-thirds v**e of the U.S. Senate before they are considered to be ratified and binding.
The President of the United States cannot enact a “complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.” The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the U.S. Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.

I can’t find anything else by anyone else reporting on this, eagle??

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Jul 9, 2018 12:16:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Media Silent As US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact
https://freedomoutpost.com/media-silent-as-us-agrees-to-full-implementation-of-united-nations-gun-control-pact/

Was not aware of this.
Of course the Liberal media will ignore it.
How about FOX?
How about Trump?

Better not happen!!!!
BUT
We have a Supreme Court to strike it down.
There's something fishy about that report. The headline says "US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact", yet there is no further indication of any specific US action, like who actually agreed. Read on----

First of all the document in question is not a "pact", it is a treaty, and like all treaties, Article II, section 2 of the constitution provides the process for adopting a treaty--the president "shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur". The Senate does not ratify treaties—the Senate approves or rejects a resolution of ratification.

In September 2013, a representative of the Obama admin signed this resolution, but no further action was taken. 96 nations have ratified the treaty, but not the United States. 41 nations have signed on, including the US and Israel, but none have ratified this POS.

If this treaty hits President Trump's desk, he will probably run it through a shredder.

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Jul 9, 2018 12:16:44   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
I do agree with you, yet, don’t dismiss Congress drafting bills to conform to this given our Constitution does supercede anything in violation of it..

The Second Amendment to the Constitution must be upheld.
There will be no restrictions on civilian possession or trade of firearms otherwise permitted by law or protected by the U.S. Constitution.
There will be no dilution or diminishing of sovereign control over issues involving the private acquisition, ownership, or possession of firearms, which must remain matters of domestic law.
As the Wall Street Journal reported, the U.S. ‘v**ed in favor [of the treaty only] after the Obama Administration secured its key “red line” that the treaty would have no impact on the Second Amendment. The final draft specifies “non-intervention in matters which are essentially within the domestic jurisdiction” of signatories.’
No such treaty could “bypass the normal legislative process in Congress,” as all treaties to which the U.S. is a signatory must first be approved by a two-thirds v**e of the U.S. Senate before they are considered to be ratified and binding.
The President of the United States cannot enact a “complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations.” The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the U.S. Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate.

I can’t find anything else by anyone else reporting on this, eagle??
I do agree with you, yet, don’t dismiss Congress d... (show quote)


Did Trump actually sign this?
Does he need a wake up call?

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Jul 9, 2018 12:18:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
There's something fishy about that report. The headline says "US Agrees To ‘Full Implementation’ of United Nations Gun Control Pact", yet there is no further indication of any specific US action, like who actually agreed. Read on----

First of all the document in question is not a "pact", it is a treaty, and like all treaties, Article II, section 2 of the constitution provides the process for adopting a treaty--the president "shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur". The Senate does not ratify treaties—the Senate approves or rejects a resolution of ratification.

In September 2013, a representative of the Obama admin signed this resolution, but no further action was taken. 96 nations have ratified the treaty, but not the United States. 41 nations have signed on, including the US and Israel, but none have ratified this POS.

If this treaty hits President Trump's desk, he will probably run it through a shredder.
There's something fishy about that report. The hea... (show quote)


Blade; Wrote my post before yours posted.
Thanks for the clarifications.

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Jul 9, 2018 12:48:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
lindajoy wrote:
Here’s another on this issue..Couldn’t believe it when I read the first..

June 29 marked the end of the Third Review Conference (RevCon) of the United Nations’ Programme of Action (PoA) on Small Arms and Light Weapons. Delegates at the conference, including representatives of the United States, worked on producing updates to the global gun-control agreement.
According to the text of the latest draft of the agreement, the PoA will serve as an “international instrument to enable states to identify and trace, in a timely and reliable manner” the small arms and light weapons that are the target of the scheme.
In practice, this means that the governments of member nations (including the United States) should create a massive, all-inclusive database of all parties that manufacture, own, sell, trade, or t***sfer arms and ammunition.
If recent history is a reliable indicator of how such data would be used, after the catalog is complete, Congress could, hypothetically, pass a law (or the president would issue an executive order) compelling “voluntary” surrender of wh**ever privately-owned weapons, ammo, parts, and components (including reloading equipment) the UN deems “illicit.” If, after a statutorily set window, citizens don’t turn in these now-illicit items to their local law enforcement, then officers will be sent to remind violators of their responsibility under the law to disarm.
The delegates — including those from the United States — present at the PoA planning meeting have agreed to begin developing domestic legal frameworks that will provide for the “proper management of small arms and light weapons stockpiles.”

Here are those six commitments, taken directly from the document:
1.To establish or strengthen national laws, regulations and administrative procedures in support of the full and effective implementation of the Programme of Action.
2. To strengthen coordinated national approaches for the implementation of the Programme of Action, including, as appropriate, the establishment or designation of national coordination agencies or bodies involving relevant government agencies, including those responsible for law enforcement, border control and export and import licensing.
3. To promote the full participation and representation of women in mechanisms relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action and to encourage strong cooperation with civil society, parliamentarians, industry and the private sector.
4. To establish or designate a national point of contact to act as a liaison between States on matters relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action; and to share and update this information regularly; and to provide the point of contact with the necessary means to carry out its role.
5. To encourage the development and implementation of national action plans or other national policies in support of the implementation of the Programme of Action by making better use of existing information to improve the measurement of progress and to coordinate the development and implementation of such plans or policies, as appropriate, in collaboration with relevant stakeholders, including those from civil society and industry, with those relevant to target 16.4 of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and to the relevant United Nations resolution on women, disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control.
6. To significantly reduce the illicit flows of small arms and light weapons, as appropriate, through illicit weapons recovery and voluntary surrender programmes.

You will want to read the whole article~~

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/29424-us-promises-full-implementation-of-un-gun-control-agreement
Here’s another on this issue..Couldn’t believe it ... (show quote)


It sure looks like something liberals would write/put together.
Sooo many generalities.

BUT!!!!
No l*****t Supreme Court to uphold the implementation of those generalities.

Yippy - Ki - Yay!!!!

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Jul 9, 2018 13:22:28   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kevyn wrote:
Get t through Your head, Trump is in it for one person; himself. He dosn’t give a damn about the fools who show up at his rally’s he sees them as nothing more than trained dogs who will jump when he says so. He dosn’t even like to shake hands with common folks because he finds them unclean. And this from a guy who beds porn stars and hookers.


Kevvy, go play with your dolls...Or get out of the fantasy life, good grief your obsession now rules over objectivity of t***h...

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Jul 9, 2018 15:37:42   #
bahmer
 
lindajoy wrote:
Here’s another on this issue..Couldn’t believe it when I read the first..

June 29 marked the end of the Third Review Conference (RevCon) of the United Nations’ Programme of Action (PoA) on Small Arms and Light Weapons. Delegates at the conference, including representatives of the United States, worked on producing updates to the global gun-control agreement.
According to the text of the latest draft of the agreement, the PoA will serve as an “international instrument to enable states to identify and trace, in a timely and reliable manner” the small arms and light weapons that are the target of the scheme.
In practice, this means that the governments of member nations (including the United States) should create a massive, all-inclusive database of all parties that manufacture, own, sell, trade, or t***sfer arms and ammunition.
If recent history is a reliable indicator of how such data would be used, after the catalog is complete, Congress could, hypothetically, pass a law (or the president would issue an executive order) compelling “voluntary” surrender of wh**ever privately-owned weapons, ammo, parts, and components (including reloading equipment) the UN deems “illicit.” If, after a statutorily set window, citizens don’t turn in these now-illicit items to their local law enforcement, then officers will be sent to remind violators of their responsibility under the law to disarm.
The delegates — including those from the United States — present at the PoA planning meeting have agreed to begin developing domestic legal frameworks that will provide for the “proper management of small arms and light weapons stockpiles.”

Here are those six commitments, taken directly from the document:
1.To establish or strengthen national laws, regulations and administrative procedures in support of the full and effective implementation of the Programme of Action.
2. To strengthen coordinated national approaches for the implementation of the Programme of Action, including, as appropriate, the establishment or designation of national coordination agencies or bodies involving relevant government agencies, including those responsible for law enforcement, border control and export and import licensing.
3. To promote the full participation and representation of women in mechanisms relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action and to encourage strong cooperation with civil society, parliamentarians, industry and the private sector.
4. To establish or designate a national point of contact to act as a liaison between States on matters relating to the implementation of the Programme of Action; and to share and update this information regularly; and to provide the point of contact with the necessary means to carry out its role.
5. To encourage the development and implementation of national action plans or other national policies in support of the implementation of the Programme of Action by making better use of existing information to improve the measurement of progress and to coordinate the development and implementation of such plans or policies, as appropriate, in collaboration with relevant stakeholders, including those from civil society and industry, with those relevant to target 16.4 of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and to the relevant United Nations resolution on women, disarmament, non-proliferation and arms control.
6. To significantly reduce the illicit flows of small arms and light weapons, as appropriate, through illicit weapons recovery and voluntary surrender programmes.

You will want to read the whole article~~

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/29424-us-promises-full-implementation-of-un-gun-control-agreement
Here’s another on this issue..Couldn’t believe it ... (show quote)


Where is Nikki Haley on this?

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