permafrost Loc: Minnesota

NO, the key word in the court finding was "intent".. If you go back and listen to the address, then lookup why the word came to be applied you will understand why their was no wrong doing..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

the action came down via the legal system, not from the executive office..

JoyV

Since I posted it in response to your assertion that anti-Muslim crime is higher due to Trump; isn't my point obvious? Ant-Muslim crime is lower if you go by percent of population. Nor has is risen by numbers a fraction as much as anti-white crime, anti-Jew crime, and others.

JoyV

BULL! Show one bit of evidence Trump supported them or any w***e s*********ts. He certainly never called any his mentor!

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

And yet it is the goal of the right wingers and the orange fool to get rid of all Muslims unless they are from Saudi Arabia..

Now it is without doubt that Muslims are targeted by some who wish them gone or fear them so much they cannot sleep..

do you also defend the trump for his kiss up to Putin??

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

By calling the "good people" and equating the ext reams with the non-violent who they hunted, trump gave them all the support they needed and then some..

It is the same as when he issues a pardon to show those indicted that he will do the same for them if they keep their mouth shut..

archie bunker Loc: Texas

You really ought to shut up.
You're getting your ass handed to you here, and looking more foolish with every post.
Just a friendly suggestion.

JoyV

Ask a lawyer. Intent to commit a crime is not necessary for it to be a crime. It is the responsibility of anyone taking an oath of office to abide by that oath. The oath Hillary took as Secretary of State included specifics on handling of classified materials. Whether she intended for those classified materials to fall into the wrong hands, be seen by those without clearances, or simply to mishandle the materials is beside the point. That she DID do so to the degree that she was grossly negligent (remember the term "extremely careless" was defined in the hearings to have the same meaning as "gross negligence"; IS a crime. It is a felony. Gross negligence is defined as: Gross negligence is the "lack of slight diligence or care" or "a conscious, voluntary act or omission in reckless disregard of a legal duty and of the consequences to another party." [legal definition]

JoyV

Again your understanding of the law and our separation of powers is lacking. Courts do not bring lawsuits. Courts JUDGE lawsuits. It is the executive branch which include law enforcement. The judicial branch which judges crimes, and in the case of the Supreme Court of the Unites States, which judges constitutionality. So of course the federal government bringing a suit to the courts was done by the executive branch! Any other branch had no authority to do so. The case was filed by the United States Justice Department in the United States District Court for the District of Arizona on July 6, 2010. In case you don't know, the Justice Department is in the executive branch and directly under the president. Several states jointly filed a Proposed Brief of Amici Curiae. The brief supported Arizona. The States of Michigan, Florida, Alabama, Nebraska, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, and Virginia, along with the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, filed their proposed brief on July 14, 2010. The brief stated that it "defends the States' authority to concurrently enforce federal i*********n l*ws, especially in light of the selective and even lack of enforcement of those laws by the Obama administration. Under the current situation, the States have lost control over their borders and are left to guess at the reality of the law." Additionally, 81 members of the U.S. Congress filed a Proposed Brief of Amici Curiae. The brief supported Arizona.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

No archie, you just will not look at facts.. No matter what the reality, the orange group will not accept it..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

NO,

You find and read the specific which they tried to charge her under and you will find the "intent" to be of pivotal importance.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Yet, Arizona lost in the court case.. so you do not agree with the court finding.. Now you insist our court system is mean and evil, and that it is all President Obama fault..

I feel that courts follow the law in these cases, therefore the overturning of the Arizona law was fully acceptable and should have been expected..

Kazudy

Wow! Archie, you are a thinking man.👍👍👍👍👍 Never thought that I would say that to a liberal.

Kazudy

Joy, you're wasting your time. Permanent frozen brain lives in la la land. He hears what he wants to hear, not what you say.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Liberal? Me? Boy, I've been called a lot of nasty things on here, but never anything THAT nasty!