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Background Check Goal a 'Federal List of Every Gun Owner in America'
Apr 12, 2013 10:24:35   #
OPP Newsletter
 
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/04/11/Sen-Ted-Cruz-Goal-of-Universal-Background-Checks-is-a-Federal-List-of-Every-Gun-Owner-in-America

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Apr 12, 2013 13:39:58   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/04/11/Sen-Ted-Cruz-Goal-of-Universal-Background-Checks-is-a-Federal-List-of-Every-Gun-Owner-in-America


Anyone who doesn't see that what Cruz said about getting a list of where the guns are is either too progressive in thought or just not very smart. I think that the latter is what takes so many people in. Most of them who can't see that part of this thing are either wiling to have the government control us, completely, or they just can't see through so many of the left's methods of gaining that absolute control.

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Apr 13, 2013 06:09:47   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
While I do not hold a degree in the mental health sciences, as a former US Army MP, and retired business manager I think I have some practical understanding of applied psychology. There are benefits to increasing governmental control (at least for the government) that are overlooked, ignored, but nevertheless very real.
To put this in plain language, in the real world, like it or not, once you start backing down from a bully it's hard to stop. This is the overlooked reason for the governments' push for more and more power and control, gun or otherwise. In the world envisioned by the left, pretty much everything is controlled by an omniscient, untouchable, (but, just like in the fairy tales, somehow always benevolent) AUTHORITY. This AUTHORITY assumes responsibility for every aspect of life and living that l*****ts feel themselves, and therefore, everyone else, incapable of dealing with. Once government reaches a certain size, it takes on a quasi-life of it's own, (much like the "science project" I once found residing in the back of my refrigerator). Like any self-respecting parasite, it reproduces itself until the host can no longer support it, at which time it dies. Unfortunately, so does the host. But I digress. Big government is a creation of, and religion of, the basically insecure, timid liberal, progressive, (now there's a contradiction for ya) mindset that craves cradle to grave security provided by someone else. The problem with that was best described many years ago by Benjamin Franklin, who said "Those who would trade essential liberty for a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security and will soon lose both." Government, like nature, abhors a vacuum, and if you leave government to others, others will govern, at your expense. The surrender of your most basic right, that of self defense, carries huge and largely unrealized psychological implications. Once you abdicate your right of self defense, you are done. Go ahead and stick a fork in yourself. Losing, while not a desirable outcome, is at least palatable when you "go down swinging." Abject surrender carries with it the knowledge that in your heart, and soul, you are beaten.

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Apr 13, 2013 09:55:28   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
Anyone who does not believe that there is a "Gun Registry" is playing Ostrich and hiding their head in the sand. There was a story in the new yesterday about a police confiscating guns from someone that had been deterimined to be mentally deficient. The police took his guns, the man hired an attorney, the police admitted a mistake, they thought he was someone else and gave the man back his guns. If no one complained and the man did not flaunt his weapons, which he did not, they were secured in a safe. How did this happen. My opinion is that, they saw how many guns this individual had on a registry and wanted to confirm and possibly take away his weapons. When caught in the s**m, they said OOPs a mistake and backed off. But what if the man could not afford an attorney or was just scared to fight back against the system. Either way they had some means of identifing a weapon holder. Registry.

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Apr 13, 2013 10:34:08   #
Unclet Loc: Amarillo, Tx
 
banjojack wrote:
While I do not hold a degree in the mental health sciences, as a former US Army MP, and retired business manager I think I have some practical understanding of applied psychology. There are benefits to increasing governmental control (at least for the government) that are overlooked, ignored, but nevertheless very real.
To put this in plain language, in the real world, like it or not, once you start backing down from a bully it's hard to stop. This is the overlooked reason for the governments' push for more and more power and control, gun or otherwise. In the world envisioned by the left, pretty much everything is controlled by an omniscient, untouchable, (but, just like in the fairy tales, somehow always benevolent) AUTHORITY. This AUTHORITY assumes responsibility for every aspect of life and living that l*****ts feel themselves, and therefore, everyone else, incapable of dealing with. Once government reaches a certain size, it takes on a quasi-life of it's own, (much like the "science project" I once found residing in the back of my refrigerator). Like any self-respecting parasite, it reproduces itself until the host can no longer support it, at which time it dies. Unfortunately, so does the host. But I digress. Big government is a creation of, and religion of, the basically insecure, timid liberal, progressive, (now there's a contradiction for ya) mindset that craves cradle to grave security provided by someone else. The problem with that was best described many years ago by Benjamin Franklin, who said "Those who would trade essential liberty for a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security and will soon lose both." Government, like nature, abhors a vacuum, and if you leave government to others, others will govern, at your expense. The surrender of your most basic right, that of self defense, carries huge and largely unrealized psychological implications. Once you abdicate your right of self defense, you are done. Go ahead and stick a fork in yourself. Losing, while not a desirable outcome, is at least palatable when you "go down swinging." Abject surrender carries with it the knowledge that in your heart, and soul, you are beaten.
While I do not hold a degree in the mental health ... (show quote)


Well Stated!

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Apr 14, 2013 00:46:22   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
Unclet wrote:
Anyone who does not believe that there is a "Gun Registry" is playing Ostrich and hiding their head in the sand. There was a story in the new yesterday about a police confiscating guns from someone that had been deterimined to be mentally deficient. The police took his guns, the man hired an attorney, the police admitted a mistake, they thought he was someone else and gave the man back his guns. If no one complained and the man did not flaunt his weapons, which he did not, they were secured in a safe. How did this happen. My opinion is that, they saw how many guns this individual had on a registry and wanted to confirm and possibly take away his weapons. When caught in the s**m, they said OOPs a mistake and backed off. But what if the man could not afford an attorney or was just scared to fight back against the system. Either way they had some means of identifing a weapon holder. Registry.
Anyone who does not believe that there is a "... (show quote)


All this crap about background checks is nothing more than a way to find the addresses of where guns are being held. They know that they have to get all of them so they talk about criminals and mentally unstable people being the ones to keep them from. All they want is to find where they are so the collection can be done sooner when they come after them. They will make a criminal out of me when they ask me to register mine that was bought before Newtow, just 3 days. I may have an arsenal by now but they will have to find all of them.

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