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Jun 30, 2018 18:10:00   #
rumitoid
 
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of complacency and opportunism. Or some would say that. Personally, I say a deliberate thinker. No matter how people my want to categorize me as a "Demorat," Liberal, Socialist, Soros-puppet, hardliner Lefty, any party affiliation to me is admitting unwanted bias and a failure of reason. Things appearing to be Left or Right is an optical illusion. Nothing is purely or maybe even mostly Left or Right. There is T***h, and it usually goes beyond Left or Right.

Plucking out your left or right eye to see clearer is insane; so is taking a Right or Left pov as where you stand on anything. The Big Picture demands the full perspective of two eyes, of two sides. Shading, background, nuance, light, arrangement of elements, seeming connections, missing factors, seeming contradictions, anomalies, and so forth. An objective view is not necessarily the best; a subjective view is not necessarily the worst. Where does the balance come?

Not in Party loyalty certainly. We all need checks and balances to our beliefs, or should. Of course, depending on the sincerity of heart to do what is best for our citizens and this country, results will greatly vary. Yet an earnest attempt to find the T***h or facts or evidence demands what is called "playing the Devil's Advocate," rigorously looking to defeat our own view.

When I "go after Trump," I am not attacking him but merely reporting. My statements can all be verified. That you may disagree with those statements still does not make them an attack. There are standards, principles, laws and ethics in place in America to measure, with some precision, any possible violations. Any of my comments about the president that were negative appeared, to me, to violate those standards, principles, laws and ethics. My opinion based on critical thinking, not knee-jerk or Tribal reaction. Yes, I may be wrong, though instead of counter-arguments I usually only get insults. It is my opinion based on how I see this nation and trying to give the best benefit of a doubt. That does not make me right or a place of higher ground.

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Jun 30, 2018 18:17:19   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of complacency and opportunism. Or some would say that. Personally, I say a deliberate thinker. No matter how people my want to categorize me as a "Demorat," Liberal, Socialist, Soros-puppet, hardliner Lefty, any party affiliation to me is admitting unwanted bias and a failure of reason. Things appearing to be Left or Right is an optical illusion. Nothing is purely or maybe even mostly Left or Right. There is T***h, and it usually goes beyond Left or Right.

Plucking out your left or right eye to see clearer is insane; so is taking a Right or Left pov as where you stand on anything. The Big Picture demands the full perspective of two eyes, of two sides. Shading, background, nuance, light, arrangement of elements, seeming connections, missing factors, seeming contradictions, anomalies, and so forth. An objective view is not necessarily the best; a subjective view is not necessarily the worst. Where does the balance come?

Not in Party loyalty certainly. We all need checks and balances to our beliefs, or should. Of course, depending on the sincerity of heart to do what is best for our citizens and this country, results will greatly vary. Yet an earnest attempt to find the T***h or facts or evidence demands what is called "playing the Devil's Advocate," rigorously looking to defeat our own view.

When I "go after Trump," I am not attacking him but merely reporting. My statements can all be verified. That you may disagree with those statements still does not make them an attack. There are standards, principles, laws and ethics in place in America to measure, with some precision, any possible violations. Any of my comments about the president that were negative appeared, to me, to violate those standards, principles, laws and ethics. My opinion based on critical thinking, not knee-jerk or Tribal reaction. Yes, I may be wrong, though instead of counter-arguments I usually only get insults. It is my opinion based on how I see this nation and trying to give the best benefit of a doubt. That does not make me right or a place of higher ground.
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of co... (show quote)


reasonable comments rumi
we all want what is best for this nation
but we all have it hammered into our thinking
that our side is the right side
personally
I think all politicians are crooked

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Jun 30, 2018 18:53:26   #
rumitoid
 
badbobby wrote:
reasonable comments rumi
we all want what is best for this nation
but we all have it hammered into our thinking
that our side is the right side
personally
I think all politicians are crooked


Thank you and Amen!

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Jun 30, 2018 18:59:13   #
Forkbassman Loc: Missouri
 
badbobby wrote:
reasonable comments rumi
we all want what is best for this nation
but we all have it hammered into our thinking
that our side is the right side
personally
I think all politicians are crooked


That’s interesting because pre- Trump years,
if you asked the average American what they thought of politicians, most would say:” crooked, don’t look out for me, filthy rich. OK, then in ‘15 we have 3 nonpolitcians running for POTUS & what happens? Fiorna & Carson get crucified &, low & behold, Trump wins out. SURPRISE, HE’s still getting crucified by media, Hollywood, all Dems & many RINOS. No one wants politicians in there but they sure don’t want Trump either! Well, what’s left? Trump wasn’t my first choice BUT he won. I accepted it just like I did the previous 8 years. I didn’t need counseling, therapy or bed rest for a month. I went about my everyday tasks. Sadly, many will whine, bellyache, seek help, perhaps r**t etc. over Trump being in office. GET OVER IT! IN TWO MORE YEARS V**E AGAINST HIM BUT UNTIL THEN, GROW UP & GET BACK TO WORK(if you have a job)

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Jun 30, 2018 19:11:32   #
rumitoid
 
Forkbassman wrote:
That’s interesting because pre- Trump years,
if you asked the average American what they thought of politicians, most would say:” crooked, don’t look out for me, filthy rich. OK, then in ‘15 we have 3 nonpolitcians running for POTUS & what happens? Fiorna & Carson get crucified &, low & behold, Trump wins out. SURPRISE, HE’s still getting crucified by media, Hollywood, all Dems & many RINOS. No one wants politicians in there but they sure don’t want Trump either! Well, what’s left? Trump wasn’t my first choice BUT he won. I accepted it just like I did the previous 8 years. I didn’t need counseling, therapy or bed rest for a month. I went about my everyday tasks. Sadly, many will whine, bellyache, seek help, perhaps r**t etc. over Trump being in office. GET OVER IT! IN TWO MORE YEARS V**E AGAINST HIM BUT UNTIL THEN, GROW UP & GET BACK TO WORK(if you have a job)
That’s interesting because pre- Trump years, br i... (show quote)


I hear your same "anti-whine" all the time. Ignore all that is wrong with Trump because, well, he got elected, so tough. You're just crying because Hillary lost. Ridiculous. Agree or not with me, I find things wrong with Trump. I should shut up and not share that opinion because he won the e******n? All possible objections to his words, policies, and actions should immediately cease and desist because he is POTUS? That not to do so is to "whine, bellyache, seek help, perhaps r**t etc. over Trump being in office"? No. Crazy stuff.

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Jun 30, 2018 19:50:05   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of complacency and opportunism. Or some would say that. Personally, I say a deliberate thinker. No matter how people my want to categorize me as a "Demorat," Liberal, Socialist, Soros-puppet, hardliner Lefty, any party affiliation to me is admitting unwanted bias and a failure of reason. Things appearing to be Left or Right is an optical illusion. Nothing is purely or maybe even mostly Left or Right. There is T***h, and it usually goes beyond Left or Right.

Plucking out your left or right eye to see clearer is insane; so is taking a Right or Left pov as where you stand on anything. The Big Picture demands the full perspective of two eyes, of two sides. Shading, background, nuance, light, arrangement of elements, seeming connections, missing factors, seeming contradictions, anomalies, and so forth. An objective view is not necessarily the best; a subjective view is not necessarily the worst. Where does the balance come?

Not in Party loyalty certainly. We all need checks and balances to our beliefs, or should. Of course, depending on the sincerity of heart to do what is best for our citizens and this country, results will greatly vary. Yet an earnest attempt to find the T***h or facts or evidence demands what is called "playing the Devil's Advocate," rigorously looking to defeat our own view.

When I "go after Trump," I am not attacking him but merely reporting. My statements can all be verified. That you may disagree with those statements still does not make them an attack. There are standards, principles, laws and ethics in place in America to measure, with some precision, any possible violations. Any of my comments about the president that were negative appeared, to me, to violate those standards, principles, laws and ethics. My opinion based on critical thinking, not knee-jerk or Tribal reaction. Yes, I may be wrong, though instead of counter-arguments I usually only get insults. It is my opinion based on how I see this nation and trying to give the best benefit of a doubt. That does not make me right or a place of higher ground.
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of co... (show quote)


You say they can be verified.I say you are lying again.Ive called you on so many lies its pitiful.
Just because you get your information from msnbc and media matters doesn't mean its verified,

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Jun 30, 2018 20:02:07   #
Steve700
 
rumitoid wrote:
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of complacency and opportunism. Or some would say that. Personally, I say a deliberate thinker. No matter how people my want to categorize me as a "Demorat," Liberal, Socialist, Soros-puppet, hardliner Lefty, any party affiliation to me is admitting unwanted bias and a failure of reason. Things appearing to be Left or Right is an optical illusion. Nothing is purely or maybe even mostly Left or Right. There is T***h, and it usually goes beyond Left or Right.

Plucking out your left or right eye to see clearer is insane; so is taking a Right or Left pov as where you stand on anything. The Big Picture demands the full perspective of two eyes, of two sides. Shading, background, nuance, light, arrangement of elements, seeming connections, missing factors, seeming contradictions, anomalies, and so forth. An objective view is not necessarily the best; a subjective view is not necessarily the worst. Where does the balance come?

Not in Party loyalty certainly. We all need checks and balances to our beliefs, or should. Of course, depending on the sincerity of heart to do what is best for our citizens and this country, results will greatly vary. Yet an earnest attempt to find the T***h or facts or evidence demands what is called "playing the Devil's Advocate," rigorously looking to defeat our own view.

When I "go after Trump," I am not attacking him but merely reporting. My statements can all be verified. That you may disagree with those statements still does not make them an attack. There are standards, principles, laws and ethics in place in America to measure, with some precision, any possible violations. Any of my comments about the president that were negative appeared, to me, to violate those standards, principles, laws and ethics. My opinion based on critical thinking, not knee-jerk or Tribal reaction. Yes, I may be wrong, though instead of counter-arguments I usually only get insults. It is my opinion based on how I see this nation and trying to give the best benefit of a doubt. That does not make me right or a place of higher ground.
Spineless, fence-sitting, mealy-mouth whores of co... (show quote)

Here is the T***h







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Jun 30, 2018 20:34:21   #
Steve700
 
rumitoid wrote:
I hear your same "anti-whine" all the time. Ignore all that is wrong with Trump because, well, he got elected, so tough. You're just crying because Hillary lost. Ridiculous. Agree or not with me, I find things wrong with Trump. I should shut up and not share that opinion because he won the e******n? All possible objections to his words, policies, and actions should immediately cease and desist because he is POTUS? That not to do so is to "whine, bellyache, seek help, perhaps r**t etc. over Trump being in office"? No. Crazy stuff.
I hear your same "anti-whine" all the ti... (show quote)

For you to have so accepted and loved Obama, finding no problem with him, but finding so much you don't like about Trump IS JUST PLAIN NUTS. Here Hillary tells you very clearly what all this Trump hatred is about and why they manipulate & program your mind to h**e what history will have to show is an amazingly great president. (Unless of course, if you lefties are able to fulfill your agenda of a complete takeover the United States, in which case you will just change history as the c****e/Marxist left always does)





In view of all this how can you even fantasize that there isn't something very seriously wrong, dangerously subversive and demented with the Democrats ???
In view of all this how can you even fantasize tha...



Thanks to your crazyness the only blue wave will be the one of the liberals whose brains haven't been totally destroyed and programmed flowing over to the red side. Thanks for insuring Trumps reelection.
Thanks to your crazyness the only blue wave will b...

I'm putting this up a 2nd time because you really need to think seriously about exactly what this means and why Hillary said it. It speaks of the deep state shadow government, the tremendous corruption and slow-motion takeover of our country
I'm putting this up a 2nd time because you really ...

If you're not a communist yourself, you are an unwitting dupe of the communist of the Democratic Party who want to see a Marxist revolution, destruction of our system & the building of a totalitarian state from the ashes & you will not shut us up
If you're not a communist yourself, you are an unw...

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Jun 30, 2018 20:38:07   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
You say they can be verified.I say you are lying again.Ive called you on so many lies its pitiful.
Just because you get your information from msnbc and media matters doesn't mean its verified,


Vernon, you may have called me "on so many lies its pitiful" but I offer links with evidence, you have never offered anything as proof.

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Jun 30, 2018 20:51:58   #
rumitoid
 
Steve700 wrote:
For you to have so accepted and loved Obama, finding no problem with him, but finding so much you don't like about Trump IS JUST PLAIN NUTS. Here Hillary tells you very clearly what all this Trump hatred is about and why they manipulate & program your mind to h**e what history will have to show is an amazingly great president. (Unless of course, if you lefties are able to fulfill your agenda of a complete takeover the United States, in which case you will just change history as the c****e/Marxist left always does)
For you to have so accepted and loved Obama, findi... (show quote)


Your opening statement is an outright lie and if you research by posts on Obama, you will see the t***h. Also those on Hitlery, lol. Why should I listen to you if you lie about me? You are, it seems, clearly a wacko fringe element. I do not h**e Trump nor care for a "complete takeover the United States." All I want is for justice, decency, the rule of law, and respect return to politics. Wow, what a totally unreal pipedream...for now.

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Jul 1, 2018 04:01:51   #
Steve700
 
rumitoid wrote:
Your opening statement is an outright lie and if you research by posts on Obama, you will see the t***h. Also those on Hitlery, lol. Why should I listen to you if you lie about me? You are, it seems, clearly a wacko fringe element. I do not h**e Trump nor care for a "complete takeover the United States." All I want is for justice, decency, the rule of law, and respect return to politics. Wow, what a totally unreal pipedream...for now.

Since when do you Not love Obama??? All liberals love Obama and I can't see you being an exception. And now you're saying you don't h**e Trump. Well, your constant articles slandering and defaming him certainly says otherwise. Sure seems like your the liar here. How can you say you want justice, decency, and the rule of law and respect brought back to politics. That's exactly what Trump promised to do and what he is doing. --- Because fighting the establishment deeply embedded corruption is doing exactly that. So from what you're saying, you should love Trump but it's obvious you DO H**e Trump. Go ahead and give me a link to anything you have written that commends Trump for anything. I don't believe for a minute you've ever made one positive admission or said one positive thing about him. Go-ahead and prove me wrong..



Instead of accusing me of lying about you, you should be commending me for the exceptionally effective case I just made demonstrating the filth and degeneracy of the Democratic Party and what they're doing. And they do want a complete takeover
Instead of accusing me of lying about you, you sho...

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Jul 1, 2018 17:27:06   #
rumitoid
 
Steve700 wrote:
For you to have so accepted and loved Obama, finding no problem with him, but finding so much you don't like about Trump IS JUST PLAIN NUTS. Here Hillary tells you very clearly what all this Trump hatred is about and why they manipulate & program your mind to h**e what history will have to show is an amazingly great president. (Unless of course, if you lefties are able to fulfill your agenda of a complete takeover the United States, in which case you will just change history as the c****e/Marxist left always does)
For you to have so accepted and loved Obama, findi... (show quote)


Wow!

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Jul 1, 2018 21:08:42   #
Steve700
 
rumitoid wrote:
Wow!

You seem stunned and befuddled. Yes that's the way it should hit you AS IT WAKES YOU UP. I already knew for certain you couldn't do as I asked (prove me wrong) because what I said is completely true and you're denying it, mocking or insulting me wouldn't help your case. Aren't you embarrassed and with your inability to have an attitude of gratitude and make amends how do you psychologically deal with being exposed publicly for saying things that you obviously would have to know are blatantly untrue ??? Have you know self-awareness and decency ??? It seems to be that the answer is, of course not; you have no shame and enjoy being evil.

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