The Real Reason We Have Kids and Parents Separated at the Border
Jun 30, 2018 13:36:24 #
This is a very good factual commentary by Hans von Spakovsky
Who truly is responsible for the 2,000 alien kids who, according to the Associated Press, recently have been separated from their detained i*****l a***n parents?
There is a lot of blame to share. That includes President Bill Clinton and the alien parents themselves, as well as the courts and immigration policies foolishly created by the Obama administration. The perverse incentives in those policies have endangered the lives and safety of children and helped fund the deadly Mexican drug cartels that run the trafficking networks on our southern border.
You would not know that based on the absurdly biased coverage and virulent protests that have occurred. The Trump administration is simply doing what it is constitutionally charged with doing—enforcing the law.
The president on Wednesday issued an executive order that directs the Department of Homeland Security to keep i*****l a***n families together “to the extent permitted by law.” That is the crux of the administration’s problem: the extent to which the government is permitted to keep families together while they await removal proceedings.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution. Find out more >>
In 1997, the Clinton administration entered into a settlement agreement in Flores v. Reno, a lawsuit filed in federal court in California by pro-i*****l i*********n advocacy groups challenging the detention of juvenile aliens taken into custody by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
The Clinton administration agreed to settle this litigation despite the fact the Supreme Court had upheld the Immigration and Naturalization Service regulation that provided for the release of minors only to their parents, close relatives, or legal guardians.
According to the Department of Homeland Security, the Flores agreement allows the agency to detain unaccompanied minors for only “20 days before releasing them to the Department of Health and Human Services which places the minors in foster or shelter situations until they locate a sponsor.”
But in a controversial decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, the most liberal in the country, has interpreted the settlement agreement to apply to “both minors who are accompanied and unaccompanied by their parents.”
In other words, it is the 9th Circuit’s misinterpretation of the Clinton administration’s settlement agreement that doesn’t allow juvenile aliens to stay with their parents who have been detained for unlawful entry into the country.
Of course, if those parents would simply agree to return to their home countries, they would be immediately reunited with their children. So those who come here illegally are themselves to blame for their children being assigned to foster care or to another family member or sponsor who may be in the country.
The executive order signed by President Donald Trump directs the attorney general to file a request with the federal court in the Flores case to modify the settlement agreement to allow the government “to detain alien families together throughout the pendency of criminal proceedings for improper entry or any removal or other immigration proceedings.”
Of course, the administration’s critics know about this settlement and know it limits the ability of the administration to keep alien families together. The point of their propaganda war is to force the Trump administration to terminate its zero-tolerance policy of prosecuting all adult aliens for illegal entry, stop all detentions, and return to the “catch and release” policies of the prior administration.
The executive order did not indicate the president was in any way relaxing the zero-tolerance policy. Unfortunately, an unconfirmed news report the day after the executive order was signed cited a “senior U.S. Customs and Border Protection official” as claiming the Department of Homeland Security was “suspending prosecutions of adults who are members of family units until ICE can accelerate resource capability to allow us to maintain custody.”
If this is accurate, then many i*****l a***ns currently in detention will be released because of a lack of adequate family detention centers.
“Catch and release” was the policy of giving i*****l a***ns a court date and then releasing them, a practice which enables many of them to disappear into the vast interior of this country. Such a policy is not a viable option.
As Mark Metcalf, former immigration judge, points out, for example, after 9/11 the number of aliens who failed to show up for their immigration hearings reached 58 percent in 2005 and 2006. Over the past two decades, 37 percent of all i*****l a***ns released pending an immigration hearing fled and never showed up for trial.
The Obama administration provided a huge incentive for i*****l a***ns to smuggle children across the border, since a child acted as a get-out-of-jail-free card for avoiding detention and prosecution for the adult accompanying the child. As the Department of Homeland Security correctly says, this policy “incited smugglers to place children into the hands of adult strangers so they can pose as families and be released from immigration custody after crossing the border, creating another safety issue for these children.”
In 2013, a federal judge issued a searing indictment of the Obama administration’s policy of reuniting children with their i*****l a***n parents in the U.S. who had paid human traffickers to smuggle the children into the U.S. and taking no action against the parents.
As Judge Andrew Hanen said in a case against a human trafficker who was caught with a 10-year-old girl, the administration’s policy was to complete “the criminal mission of individuals who are violating the border security of the United States.” He called the policy “dangerous and unconscionable” because it encourages i*****l a***ns to place their “minor children in perilous situations subject to the whims of evil individuals.”
Hanen listed the crimes he had seen committed against i*****l a***ns by traffickers, including assault, rape, kidnapping, and murder, and catalogued the “violence, extortion, forced labor, sexual assault, or prostitution” to which the aliens were subjected. Funds paid to these human traffickers by i*****l a***ns directly fund dangerous drug cartels such as Mexico’s Los Zetas.
Another reason for the current separation problem is i*****l a***ns trying to take advantage of our generous asylum law. If an alien follows the law by presenting himself at a port of entry with his family and claiming asylum, then his claim will be reviewed and his family will stay together.
It is when aliens are caught illegally crossing the border and then claim asylum that they have put themselves into the situation of being prosecuted for illegal entry. They are then separated from their children because of the Clinton-era settlement.
Something else to keep in mind when it comes to the credibility—or lack of credibility—of many asylum claims these days is that many aliens pass through countries with their own asylum laws on their way here—including Mexico. If an alien doesn’t claim asylum before he gets to the U.S., that is a pretty good sign his reason for coming to the U.S. is more about economics than asylum.
This issue of alien children being separated from their parents who are being prosecuted for illegal entry also should be kept in perspective. Our justice system doesn’t refuse to arrest, prosecute, and jail citizens when they break the law because they happen to have children.
As Peter Kirsanow, a commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, points out, a report from the Department of Health and Human Services shows that more than 20,000 children were placed in foster care in 2016 because of “Parent Incarceration.”
None of those protesting against the Trump administration seem concerned that 10 times more American children than the 2,000 alien children cited in the Associated Press report were separated from their parents in 2016 because of violations of the law by their parents.
As Kirsanow says, it is “regrettable” children are separated from their parents. But “people who cross the border illegally have committed a crime, and one of the consequences of being arrested and detained is, unfortunately, that their children cannot stay with them.”
It is not Trump who is responsible for this.
Who truly is responsible for the 2,000 alien kids who, according to the Associated Press, recently have been separated from their detained i*****l a***n parents?
There is a lot of blame to share. That includes President Bill Clinton and the alien parents themselves, as well as the courts and immigration policies foolishly created by the Obama administration. The perverse incentives in those policies have endangered the lives and safety of children and helped fund the deadly Mexican drug cartels that run the trafficking networks on our southern border.
You would not know that based on the absurdly biased coverage and virulent protests that have occurred. The Trump administration is simply doing what it is constitutionally charged with doing—enforcing the law.
The president on Wednesday issued an executive order that directs the Department of Homeland Security to keep i*****l a***n families together “to the extent permitted by law.” That is the crux of the administration’s problem: the extent to which the government is permitted to keep families together while they await removal proceedings.
The liberal Left continue to push their radical agenda against American values. The good news is there is a solution. Find out more >>
In 1997, the Clinton administration entered into a settlement agreement in Flores v. Reno, a lawsuit filed in federal court in California by pro-i*****l i*********n advocacy groups challenging the detention of juvenile aliens taken into custody by the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
The Clinton administration agreed to settle this litigation despite the fact the Supreme Court had upheld the Immigration and Naturalization Service regulation that provided for the release of minors only to their parents, close relatives, or legal guardians.
According to the Department of Homeland Security, the Flores agreement allows the agency to detain unaccompanied minors for only “20 days before releasing them to the Department of Health and Human Services which places the minors in foster or shelter situations until they locate a sponsor.”
But in a controversial decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, the most liberal in the country, has interpreted the settlement agreement to apply to “both minors who are accompanied and unaccompanied by their parents.”
In other words, it is the 9th Circuit’s misinterpretation of the Clinton administration’s settlement agreement that doesn’t allow juvenile aliens to stay with their parents who have been detained for unlawful entry into the country.
Of course, if those parents would simply agree to return to their home countries, they would be immediately reunited with their children. So those who come here illegally are themselves to blame for their children being assigned to foster care or to another family member or sponsor who may be in the country.
The executive order signed by President Donald Trump directs the attorney general to file a request with the federal court in the Flores case to modify the settlement agreement to allow the government “to detain alien families together throughout the pendency of criminal proceedings for improper entry or any removal or other immigration proceedings.”
Of course, the administration’s critics know about this settlement and know it limits the ability of the administration to keep alien families together. The point of their propaganda war is to force the Trump administration to terminate its zero-tolerance policy of prosecuting all adult aliens for illegal entry, stop all detentions, and return to the “catch and release” policies of the prior administration.
The executive order did not indicate the president was in any way relaxing the zero-tolerance policy. Unfortunately, an unconfirmed news report the day after the executive order was signed cited a “senior U.S. Customs and Border Protection official” as claiming the Department of Homeland Security was “suspending prosecutions of adults who are members of family units until ICE can accelerate resource capability to allow us to maintain custody.”
If this is accurate, then many i*****l a***ns currently in detention will be released because of a lack of adequate family detention centers.
“Catch and release” was the policy of giving i*****l a***ns a court date and then releasing them, a practice which enables many of them to disappear into the vast interior of this country. Such a policy is not a viable option.
As Mark Metcalf, former immigration judge, points out, for example, after 9/11 the number of aliens who failed to show up for their immigration hearings reached 58 percent in 2005 and 2006. Over the past two decades, 37 percent of all i*****l a***ns released pending an immigration hearing fled and never showed up for trial.
The Obama administration provided a huge incentive for i*****l a***ns to smuggle children across the border, since a child acted as a get-out-of-jail-free card for avoiding detention and prosecution for the adult accompanying the child. As the Department of Homeland Security correctly says, this policy “incited smugglers to place children into the hands of adult strangers so they can pose as families and be released from immigration custody after crossing the border, creating another safety issue for these children.”
In 2013, a federal judge issued a searing indictment of the Obama administration’s policy of reuniting children with their i*****l a***n parents in the U.S. who had paid human traffickers to smuggle the children into the U.S. and taking no action against the parents.
As Judge Andrew Hanen said in a case against a human trafficker who was caught with a 10-year-old girl, the administration’s policy was to complete “the criminal mission of individuals who are violating the border security of the United States.” He called the policy “dangerous and unconscionable” because it encourages i*****l a***ns to place their “minor children in perilous situations subject to the whims of evil individuals.”
Hanen listed the crimes he had seen committed against i*****l a***ns by traffickers, including assault, rape, kidnapping, and murder, and catalogued the “violence, extortion, forced labor, sexual assault, or prostitution” to which the aliens were subjected. Funds paid to these human traffickers by i*****l a***ns directly fund dangerous drug cartels such as Mexico’s Los Zetas.
Another reason for the current separation problem is i*****l a***ns trying to take advantage of our generous asylum law. If an alien follows the law by presenting himself at a port of entry with his family and claiming asylum, then his claim will be reviewed and his family will stay together.
It is when aliens are caught illegally crossing the border and then claim asylum that they have put themselves into the situation of being prosecuted for illegal entry. They are then separated from their children because of the Clinton-era settlement.
Something else to keep in mind when it comes to the credibility—or lack of credibility—of many asylum claims these days is that many aliens pass through countries with their own asylum laws on their way here—including Mexico. If an alien doesn’t claim asylum before he gets to the U.S., that is a pretty good sign his reason for coming to the U.S. is more about economics than asylum.
This issue of alien children being separated from their parents who are being prosecuted for illegal entry also should be kept in perspective. Our justice system doesn’t refuse to arrest, prosecute, and jail citizens when they break the law because they happen to have children.
As Peter Kirsanow, a commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights, points out, a report from the Department of Health and Human Services shows that more than 20,000 children were placed in foster care in 2016 because of “Parent Incarceration.”
None of those protesting against the Trump administration seem concerned that 10 times more American children than the 2,000 alien children cited in the Associated Press report were separated from their parents in 2016 because of violations of the law by their parents.
As Kirsanow says, it is “regrettable” children are separated from their parents. But “people who cross the border illegally have committed a crime, and one of the consequences of being arrested and detained is, unfortunately, that their children cannot stay with them.”
It is not Trump who is responsible for this.
Jun 30, 2018 14:03:04 #
Loki wrote:
This is a very good factual commentary by Hans von... (show quote)
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WE have a law in this country that when parents commit crimes, drug addicts, drunks, abuse their children, the Dept. of Social and Health Services confiscate the children and place them in Foster Care.
Now, these i******s are all criminals for violating the laws of the United States. I am sure many of them are drug dealers or addicts. There is a process how to resolve problems. While the process is undertaken, children are temporarily separated from the parents. This is for the good of the children, so as to prevent them from exposures of the legal adult procedures how the law is applied.
The children while separated are well-taken cared of. But the Socialists, liberals, democrats, c*******ts, Marxists, all march down the streets, along with the other i******s in mass demonstration shouting, demanding, yelling, filthy and foul language against president Trump. They call the president inhuman, Hitler, crazy. They also verbally encourage assault against the president, his family, and his followers, all kinds of mayhem and violence.
The democrat-liberals followers at this OPP do the same yelling and attack at the president and his party, without knowing the t***h of what are really happening and done to the children. They all synchronize together thinking they are giving help to the illegal children. But they are creating more problems instead. There are here at OPP yelling at the president and his party, are part of these illegal law breakers.
Jun 30, 2018 14:07:00 #
Loki wrote:
This is a very good factual commentary by Hans von... (show quote)
The fact is there are people/forces in CA and SA and in Mexico telling the locals that there is a way to get their kids an education in America and even get the whole family into America.
I lived down there for years, I have seen what is going on. The C****e Left have been working on this for years. Obama supercharged this program.
Jun 30, 2018 14:10:13 #
cold iron wrote:
The fact is there are people/forces in CA and SA and in Mexico telling the locals that there is a way to get their kids an education in America and even get the whole family into America.
I lived down there for years, I have seen what is going on. The C****e Left have been working on this for years. Obama supercharged this program.
I lived down there for years, I have seen what is going on. The C****e Left have been working on this for years. Obama supercharged this program.
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Few years from now, if i******s are not controlled, they'll evict us all. The democrats becomes one party dictator-socialist system like Hugo Chavez.
Jun 30, 2018 14:46:24 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
Radiance3 wrote:
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Few years from now, if i******s are not controlled, they'll evict us all. The democrats becomes one party dictator-socialist system like Hugo Chavez.
Few years from now, if i******s are not controlled, they'll evict us all. The democrats becomes one party dictator-socialist system like Hugo Chavez.
That isn't all that far fetched. In just 2 years Hispanics will be the majority in Texas. It could get ugly, too. T***h be known, b****s in the cities h**e Hispanics to the nth degree.
Jun 30, 2018 14:55:44 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
That isn't all that far fetched. In just 2 years Hispanics will be the majority in Texas. It could get ugly, too. T***h be known, b****s in the cities h**e Hispanics to the nth degree.
They have been the majority in California for many years, they control the state government, nothing anti-Hispanic ever passes.
How long at 11,000 a day will it take to gain control?
Jun 30, 2018 15:52:50 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
cold iron wrote:
They have been the majority in California for many years, they control the state government, nothing anti-Hispanic ever passes.
How long at 11,000 a day will it take to gain control?
How long at 11,000 a day will it take to gain control?
Ya know, when I'm in San Diego, I don't seen any rich Hispanics. It's the same all up and down the west coast of California.
Jun 30, 2018 16:53:48 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Ya know, when I'm in San Diego, I don't seen any rich Hispanics. It's the same all up and down the west coast of California.
Who knows? (Or perhaps I should say ¿quién sabe?) Maybe the "Big One" will hit and you won't see any poor ones, either.
Jun 30, 2018 18:05:56 #
cold iron wrote:
They have been the majority in California for many years, they control the state government, nothing anti-Hispanic ever passes.
How long at 11,000 a day will it take to gain control?
How long at 11,000 a day will it take to gain control?
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Right now at this very moment there are tens of thousands of Mexicans, Hispanics i******s at El Paso ,Texas, marching all over, yelling at president Trump and the Republicans, demanding that the kids of the i******s be re-united with their parents.
These are the illegal parents who dumped their kids on several truckloads going to the US border. Then they expected America to babysit them. These kids have been exposed to several dangers to strangers who abuse them sexually, or other matters. These parents don't care. These kids are their bridge to come to the US.
Few months later, these parents coming from several countries, Mexico, and all countries south of Mexico, now come thru the open border. Many of them carry tons of drugs, or drug addicts and criminals. Some drive through areas easy for them to get though, and nobody could check them. Some climbed fences, and crawled tunnels, many hid on truckloads of merchandise delivered to the US. Others pay the cayotes to dump them inside the US border.
Once they are inside, they find democrats, socialists, to help them settle. Then along with the democrats, liberals, progressives, and socialists, they march down all over the streets of the US, yelling at president Trump and his family, his administration, and all supporters of the president. They call president Trump all kinds of filthy names, like Hitler, inhuman, ugly, cruel, children abuser, and many others. They even incite their followers to assaults and do physical violence against the president, his family, and all republican supporters.
You must see that scene right now in El Paso Taxes. It is not pretty, but very dangerous.
Unless we close the US border, there will be more than 150 million of them a year from now, and the leaders of Mexico, and those Hispanic countries are urging their people to fight for their illegal rights, and totally invade and control the United States.
Black people will be the most oppressed once these Mexicans and Hispanics take over. We will all be evicted, not only w****s but b****s and Asians. The Mexicans and Hispanics will take over America. Check El Paso right now. It is an ugly scene.
We are invaded. I am demanding ICE to arrest them all and deport them.
Jul 1, 2018 09:09:34 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
Ya know, when I'm in San Diego, I don't seen any rich Hispanics. It's the same all up and down the west coast of California.
And your point?
Jul 1, 2018 18:05:47 #
Radiance 3 makes some great points ~ also these kids need to be questioned without the intimidation of the ones that are claiming to be family so that we can discover if it's a game or crime or are real family...
Jul 3, 2018 11:35:08 #
nwtk2007
Loc: Texas
cold iron wrote:
And your point?
As the majority, you'd think you'd see some doing pretty well, but for the most part, It seems they are in the back ground or herded to some place like LA.
Jul 3, 2018 12:01:05 #
Loki wrote:
This is a very good factual commentary by Hans von... (show quote)
Thank You, once again for an outstanding fact filled post and article..
I find it not strange that the left has conveniently over looked this point in fact dissertation of exactly who did what and when..
Obviously they can not refute it so they ignore it..
The dems have lost terribly in their endeavors to rid our country of the one who has taken on some very difficult issues just as he said he would do campaigning.. He has succeeded in spite of the divisivness and obstruction and now
has the responsibility of replacing another SC Justice.
Since they have nothing else to use against Trump like, jobs, illegal entry of terrorist countries, building the wall, unemployment level etc they have done here all they can.. Scream bloody murder Trump is doing this and hammering it home with all these protests etc trying desparately to attain some hold on something..
This article should find its way to the video makers for campaigning issues and throw down in every state they can!!! Republicans are terrible in getting out their message and this is a perfect article to spread the t***h now, not later...
Jul 3, 2018 12:23:52 #
Radiance3 wrote:
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Few years from now, if i******s are not controlled, they'll evict us all. The democrats becomes one party dictator-socialist system like Hugo Chavez.
Few years from now, if i******s are not controlled, they'll evict us all. The democrats becomes one party dictator-socialist system like Hugo Chavez.
Isn’t that exactly what they are trying to achieve right now??
Hillary declaring the dem party as being socialist... The young lady in NY, a declared socialist winning over the opponent of what 3 terms and some guy in Illinois, a declared n**i ??? Troubling enough that the Republican party came out against that guy disavowing any affiliation/relationship to him ...
The beginning of induction seen for all who really look, listen and see... If we don’t get it under control now we never will... Thus the real reason Trump is h**ed .. He stands against it~~ Forget fasicsm, marxism, socialism, Nationalist, or any other such definition.. We are the land of the free and our actions right now define not only our future but that of our children, grandchildren etc.. I’m not willing to leave that legacy and I am sure you and most of us do not want it either!!
Jul 3, 2018 18:10:20 #
nwtk2007 wrote:
That isn't all that far fetched. In just 2 years Hispanics will be the majority in Texas. It could get ugly, too. T***h be known, b****s in the cities h**e Hispanics to the nth degree.
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B****s must be vigilant of this trend, it not stopped, eventually they'll become the victims.
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