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Jun 28, 2018 10:53:06   #
Sicilianthing
 
For those who really want to know the t***h and arm themselves with the knowledge of the Spin


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Why Work Isn’t Working in Trump’s America
By Paul Street —

The U.S. employment picture is not as positive as the government is spinning it.

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Jun 29, 2018 11:50:38   #
rational1
 
So true, soon the fantasy will collapse, what is next?? A Recession, bigger and better than the last(George W Bush) Recession.

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Jun 29, 2018 15:15:02   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
So true, soon the fantasy will collapse, what is next?? A Recession, bigger and better than the last(George W Bush) Recession.


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You are correct in fact things aren’t looking good going into 4th quarter and 2019... but they’ll spin another way...

As stores keep closing

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Jun 30, 2018 18:32:26   #
rational1
 
You can't build the economy on selling to the top 10%, sorry great if you Tiffany, Rolls etc. Must reach a middle class, for the last recession the middle used excessive credit, stupid mortgages etc. to contract their tangent wages and it blew up. Watch consumer debt, if it grows, has already, & easier mortage terms, we are seeing a housing boom, again in may markets. Those indicators will foretell the next big downturn. More $ to the already wealthy doesn't solve the problem, oh and it now looks like the Trump tariff program will cause more harm than good, note the Harley story & recent GM warning.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You are correct in fact things aren’t looking good going into 4th quarter and 2019... but they’ll spin another way...

As stores keep closing

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Jun 30, 2018 19:25:40   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
You can't build the economy on selling to the top 10%, sorry great if you Tiffany, Rolls etc. Must reach a middle class, for the last recession the middle used excessive credit, stupid mortgages etc. to contract their tangent wages and it blew up. Watch consumer debt, if it grows, has already, & easier mortage terms, we are seeing a housing boom, again in may markets. Those indicators will foretell the next big downturn. More $ to the already wealthy doesn't solve the problem, oh and it now looks like the Trump tariff program will cause more harm than good, note the Harley story & recent GM warning.
You can't build the economy on selling to the top ... (show quote)


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yes i’m Aware and trying to follow these trends daily... I will post Topics and data as i find it.

Trump better do something seriously fast to fire up and open Factories, manufacturing, assembling and processing right here at home...

By this time next year it will all be unwinding in a bad way if he doesn’t.

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Jul 1, 2018 13:09:50   #
rational1
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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yes i’m Aware and trying to follow these trends daily... I will post Topics and data as i find it.

Trump better do something seriously fast to fire up and open Factories, manufacturing, assembling and processing right here at home...

By this time next year it will all be unwinding in a bad way if he doesn’t.


Another trend that isn't addressed,Automation, companies are moving production into the US when it requires low labor input.. With little labor the cost per person doesn't matter, much and the closer shipping, easier forecasting are an added benefit. But,, it doesn't build many jobs.

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Jul 1, 2018 13:14:20   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
Another trend that isn't addressed,Automation, companies are moving production into the US when it requires low labor input.. With little labor the cost per person doesn't matter, much and the closer shipping, easier forecasting are an added benefit. But,, it doesn't build many jobs.


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I understand that math and that’s why we don’t need anymore immigration Flat OUT.

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Jul 1, 2018 13:22:37   #
rational1
 
Yet, there are high tech jobs going wanting, we need immigrants who are educated and productive, like it or not, most of the potential employees are Oriental or Indian. Want to see an immigration model that work's, study Canada, ex Vancouver is becoming a Chinese City while Toronto is more multi ethnic, but the best place for Indian Food in the World. We need immigration of high tech workers, not enough Americans.
The other end, who is going to do the lousy jobs, picking crops, washing dishes..certainly not Americans.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I understand that math and that’s why we don’t need anymore immigration Flat OUT.

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Jul 1, 2018 13:26:45   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
Yet, there are high tech jobs going wanting, we need immigrants who are educated and productive, like it or not, most of the potential employees are Oriental or Indian. Want to see an immigration model that work's, study Canada, ex Vancouver is becoming a Chinese City while Toronto is more multi ethnic, but the best place for Indian Food in the World. We need immigration of high tech workers, not enough Americans.
The other end, who is going to do the lousy jobs, picking crops, washing dishes..certainly not Americans.
Yet, there are high tech jobs going wanting, we ne... (show quote)


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I do not believe that narrative... there are plenty of highly educated intelligent American’s from Top academia with the knowledge to do all the jobs in America...
On the bottom end it will return to the way it was from our Fathers and Grandfathers generations...
Kids and College students will do summer jobs, part time jobs, grad jobs and entry level misc jobs of every kind...

This is where the mindtrusts will be built again... will take time...
Trump will have to tackle the Schools and our education system faster than Betsy Amway DeVos is doing... this battle is to be continued.

I am 100% for Shutting down all immigration, all visas... build my Ph**KING Wall already...

It’s cooked and it’s over...

The industrial revolution ended 100years ago for cheap labor, GAME OVER

I will never Change my position on immigration and the damages it has done...

No Deal

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Jul 1, 2018 14:06:13   #
rational1
 
Read your last line, that is not a thoughtful comment. Look at the pronouncements from Apple, Microsoft, Intel and most other hi tech employers and their problem recruiting sk**led workers. In your day a boy worked on his dada's car, got interested, by the time he was an adult he knew most of the technology. Try that today, you can't an auto is a long series of tiny computers, a computer identifies the problem and a part(s) is replaced.
If you started to teach todays technology to a teenager, it would all be obsolete by the time he/she is a self sustaining adult.
The numbers of young adults living with their parents has zoomed, why? because many can not get a job that pays enough to live independently, they don't have the background and sk**ls, it is not that they are lazy. If the US is to stay on top in the World Economy it must import highly educated workers or make major changes to the US Education system( our students have more holidays and off time than any other Industrialized country, know any Koreans, the kids work their ass off on education).
Everyone has to stop living the 50's & 60's and thinking those experiences now work.

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Jul 1, 2018 14:09:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
Read your last line, that is not a thoughtful comment. Look at the pronouncements from Apple, Microsoft, Intel and most other hi tech employers and their problem recruiting sk**led workers. In your day a boy worked on his dada's car, got interested, by the time he was an adult he knew most of the technology. Try that today, you can't an auto is a long series of tiny computers, a computer identifies the problem and a part(s) is replaced.
If you started to teach todays technology to a teenager, it would all be obsolete by the time he/she is a self sustaining adult.
The numbers of young adults living with their parents has zoomed, why? because many can not get a job that pays enough to live independently, they don't have the background and sk**ls, it is not that they are lazy. If the US is to stay on top in the World Economy it must import highly educated workers or make major changes to the US Education system( our students have more holidays and off time than any other Industrialized country, know any Koreans, the kids work their ass off on education).
Everyone has to stop living the 50's & 60's and thinking those experiences now work.
Read your last line, that is not a thoughtful comm... (show quote)


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You have valid points.... I’m not discounting them but I will not trade our Culture, our way of life, our sovereignty, security, livelihoods, mindtrust to Non assimilating multi cultural invasions, occupiers, no matter temporary or permanent...

Your points are one of the TOP hot issues of our time...

We need to t***sform the trajectory and academia of our youths... and put everyone back into jobs training and tech schooling as necessary... takes time to unwind the damages done.

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Jul 1, 2018 14:19:34   #
rational1
 
Thanks. Do you know that many foreigners who receive US Univ advanced degrees, even in the Sciences, Math etc. can't get Green Cards and have to return to their home countries? We are training our future competitors, that is beyond, way beyond stupid. Any foreigner with a degree from a Canadian Univ in the needed disciplines, including Engineering,Science .... get their equivalent of a Green Card, after a rigorous background check, from the Gov't.
1st Step: a Commission of Experts, not Politicians, Industry, Academic etc. to define the jobs and education the US needs and will need & recommends Immigration Policies that help solve that gap.
Companies have to think in the long term, or they don't survive. Over 1/2 of the Fortune 1960 ;500 Top Companies are gone. Politicians can't think beyond the next e******n.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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You have valid points.... I’m not discounting them but I will not trade our Culture, our way of life, our sovereignty, security, livelihoods, mindtrust to Non assimilating multi cultural invasions, occupiers, no matter temporary or permanent...

Your points are one of the TOP hot issues of our time...

We need to t***sform the trajectory and academia of our youths... and put everyone back into jobs training and tech schooling as necessary... takes time to unwind the damages done.
>>>> br br You have valid points.... ... (show quote)

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Jul 1, 2018 16:05:53   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
Thanks. Do you know that many foreigners who receive US Univ advanced degrees, even in the Sciences, Math etc. can't get Green Cards and have to return to their home countries? We are training our future competitors, that is beyond, way beyond stupid. Any foreigner with a degree from a Canadian Univ in the needed disciplines, including Engineering,Science .... get their equivalent of a Green Card, after a rigorous background check, from the Gov't.
1st Step: a Commission of Experts, not Politicians, Industry, Academic etc. to define the jobs and education the US needs and will need & recommends Immigration Policies that help solve that gap.
Companies have to think in the long term, or they don't survive. Over 1/2 of the Fortune 1960 ;500 Top Companies are gone. Politicians can't think beyond the next e******n.
Thanks. Do you know that many foreigners who recei... (show quote)


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Yes I’m aware, the Policies shaped of the above are from the Jesuit Schools of thought by the minions of the CFR... lies, wreckage, trickery and deceit levied upon the Citizens...

This is by design...

NumbersUSA.com fights hard against this position.

Please help fight there, take actions on their boards and notices daily as necessary...

We are in a fight against enemies more domestic than foreign today.

GodSpeed
Keep buying ammo and lock n load.

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Jul 1, 2018 21:23:22   #
rational1
 
I have no idea what you are talking about, for generations Americans have tried to keep out immigrants, The Irish, then the Italians, then Eastern European Jews on & on, It is all old news, if they had succeeded, this Country wouldn't be what it is, look at History.
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Yes I’m aware, the Policies shaped of the above are from the Jesuit Schools of thought by the minions of the CFR... lies, wreckage, trickery and deceit levied upon the Citizens...

This is by design...

NumbersUSA.com fights hard against this position.

Please help fight there, take actions on their boards and notices daily as necessary...

We are in a fight against enemies more domestic than foreign today.

GodSpeed
Keep buying ammo and lock n load.
>>>> br br Yes I’m aware, the Policie... (show quote)

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Jul 1, 2018 22:24:51   #
Sicilianthing
 
rational1 wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about, for generations Americans have tried to keep out immigrants, The Irish, then the Italians, then Eastern European Jews on & on, It is all old news, if they had succeeded, this Country wouldn't be what it is, look at History.


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What part ? The i******s or the CFR a**holes that shape our bad policies that create these problems...?

As for immigrants back then ?
the Industrial Revolution required millions of i******s from anywhere in Europe really this was by design by the Oligarchs back then...

They get credit for building the nation... but not what scumbag i******s and muslims are doing to the world today...

They can not be put into the same box, No Deal.

For the record, Immigration has run it’s course in America and now we’re going to spiral into full blown civil war to stop it.

Do you understand what’s coming ?

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