Richard Rowland

I'm no expert on world affairs, so I have no idea of how many treaties Iran has broken. To say that Iran has broken the latest one depends on who's telling the story. Unless I've missed something, to my knowledge only one signatory, to that treaty, feels Iran is violating it and has rejected it. I don't lose sleep over Iran's danger to the US. If I were to lose sleep it would be because of what lurks closer to home.

Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI

I may lose sleep. But I refused to lose sleep over what another country may do me.

There is more than enough to worry about with what goes on within our country.

It is the silence we face from what takes place in the back rooms of America that should be of our greatest concern.

Loki Loc: Georgia

[quote=Richard Rowland]I'm no expert on world affairs, so I have no idea of how many treaties Iran has broken. To say that Iran has broken the latest one depends on who's telling the story. Unless I've missed something, to my knowledge only one signatory, to that treaty, feels Iran is violating it and has rejected it. I don't lose sleep over Iran's danger to the US. If I were to lose sleep it would be because of what lurks closer to home [quote]



You a veteran, Richard? I am. My nephew is also. He was badly wounded in Iraq. Any time a Westerner, US citizen or not, dies or is wounded in a terror attack, you won't go broke betting there was Iranian involvement somewhere along the line. Iran is the world's leading sponsor of terrorism. As far as "their" money, They have said they will continue supporting terrorists organizations. Did you think they were going to use that money for gay outreach, or maybe a clinic where women who have been beaten half to death for the crime of being raped can receive treatment? How about a nice, new, Christian church in Tehran?
You sure know how to pick 'em.

https://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/violation-of-treaties
http://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/355949-iran-is-violating-the-deal
http://www.ishr.org/countries/islamic-republic-of-iran/iran-un-and-human-rights/iran-the-un-and-human-rights-at-a-glance/
https://www.dw.com/en/un-agency-iaea-reports-iran-has-again-violated-terms-of-nuclear-deal/a-36331576

Richard Rowland

[quote=Loki][quote=Richard Rowland]I'm no expert on world affairs, so I have no idea of how many treaties Iran has broken. To say that Iran has broken the latest one depends on who's telling the story. Unless I've missed something, to my knowledge only one signatory, to that treaty, feels Iran is violating it and has rejected it. I don't lose sleep over Iran's danger to the US. If I were to lose sleep it would be because of what lurks closer to home

Why does, as you indicate, Iran sponsors terrorism? What is the objective? And doesn't just about every nation in that part of the world, with the means, sponsor and support some type proxy army? (another word for terrorists) Does the US support a proxy in that part of the world? I think most know the answer.

I have no love nor h**e for Iran. For I don't think I know enough about the particulars. I know what some would like us to think about Iran and Syria, presently the two countries on America's and Israel's s**t list. What's the next Middle East country to have its turn in the barrel?

And, yeah, Iran has some cultural practices that most would find distasteful. However, it's their country. America has some cultural practices they probably find abhorrent. As nations go, minding one's own business would be good policy.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Yes, Iran does have some cultural practices I find distasteful; chief among them financing and training and giving logistical support to people who k**l innocent civilians, especially Americans. Don't give me any worn out bulls**t about Israel and the Palestinians, because Israel is not the one who randomly sends bombs and missiles into Palestinian territory. The recent tempest in a teacup when we moved our embassy to Jerusalem is an example. You were right in the front row castigating the IDF, even after it was proven that almost all the dead were Hamas operatives. This was reported in the Chicago Tribune, and if you think they are pro-Israel, you have serious problems.

Richard Rowland

This is an argument of opinions and perception. I have my opinions on what is taking place, obviously, others have theirs. While I defer to your superior intellect, I doubt you have a better channel into sources than most others. By the way, you didn't answer my question of why does Iran find it necessary to sponsor terrorism.

Also, what Americans are you referring to that Iran is k*****g. If it's those I think you're referring to, I think the blame belongs to George Bush and the lies that got us into Irag.

Loki Loc: Georgia

Loki Loc: Georgia

Iran sponsors terrorism because that's what the mullahs who really run the country want. As to your other questions, think of terrorism as a tree with Iran as the taproot.

trucksterbud

Perhaps it would clarify the issue if you understood that Iran is NOT the enemy here. It is the international bankers, who have long run the US Military as their personal henchmen. Like it or not, believe it or not, its true. Look what happened in Iraq. Look what happened in Libya. Look whats happening in Syria. Its all about US Dollar (Petrodollar) hedgmony on a global scale. Iran's leadership has stated that they wanted to wipe Israel off the map. Then in a different time, the leadership stated that they had no interest in what Israel does. You need to look past the warmongering, the political posturing to see what really happened in the time frame you speak of. Iranian leadership at the time was Ayatollah Kohmeni, who was publicly anti US.. Who put him in power..?? The US... And it backfired. As often does with that kind of thing. Kohmeni replaced the former leadership with anti US people. The Iranian leadership before Kohmeni was openly pro US... We did business with Iran for quite a while. When Iran wanted to deal directly with China, Russia, and the rest of the world in their own currency, thats when the SHTF....

The bulk of the WTC / 9-11 perps were dual Israeli / American citizens. Yes, they had ties back to Saudi Arabia, but also Yemen, Turkey, UAE...

The question to ask yourself is, how did those responsible for SUPPOSEDLY flying the planes into the buildings on 9/11 walk away from it...?? How did two of them get spotted on a resort beach two months later sipping mojo's..?? How did the American national security agencies know all about them, yet when the supposed terrorists got on the planes in Boston and NY, why did they get a free pass to do so..?? The security footage revealed the feds had been following these perps for a while.. Yet did nothing...

How was it that there was a supposed Israeli art student group on the top floors of the WTC for 6 months before the WTC disaster. Photographed with boxes and boxes of fuses to be installed.?

I could supply links to some interesting info, but it doesn't lead where the status quo is comfortable. So my rant / response stops here.

trucksterbud

[quote=Loki]

For all the research available out there, one factor cancels it all out...

The Iranian nuclear accords were NEVER signed, by any side...

You can researh it yourself at: http://www.usawatchdog.com/gregh****r

Richard Rowland

Your history lesson has a few glitches, truckster, but overall some relevant points.

trucksterbud

And what glitches would that be.. Ya, I'm not perfect, but I do remember that time frame quite well. I graduated high school in 1974. So the history of the 1967 to 1979 era is kinda etched in my mind. I do remember the time Iran was our friend. Iraq was our friend. All the fuss started when they wanted to deal in their own currency with their own contacts, and not use the US Petrodollar...

moldyoldy

You finally told some t***hs

Richard Rowland

Perhaps I misinterpreted your point where you write that the US installed Grand Mullah Kommie. I'm under the impression that the Shah was chased out which allowed Kommie to take power, not that the US installed him. If your point is that due to the actions of the US, or lack of, Kommie assumed the leadership of Iran, then I stand corrected.