Loki Loc: Georgia

The practice of separating children from parents is not something Trump and Sessions dreamed up in an idle moment. It began during the previous Administration. One very important point to remember is that we currently detain about 12,000 foreign kids. Some 10,000 of them showed up at the border unaccompanied by any adults. This link describes how this practice took place during the Obama Administration.
https://www.lifezette.com/polizette/four-immigration-facts-mainstream-media-wont-tell-you/?utm_medium=email

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

The Dems and the media are aware of this, however, they have an agenda that includes open borders as well as deflecting attention away from the Hillary investigation, the N.K. summit meeting, and the Russian collusion investigation against President Trump. What no one wants to acknowledge is the fact that it's the parents' fault that these kids are detained. Most of them are better off in detention in America than they were in their own country. The adults count on the "20 day detention rule" to be released into this country. Send them ALL back to Mexico.

JONDO

We are not taking those illegal kids away from thr parents, they are dumping them over here,While were stuck watching them dam kids thr worthless parents are coming over here like ducks flying south, Its nothing but a full scale invasion and a big part of our government is helping them.I see even Peter Fonda even joined thr cause worried about thr poor babies that would cut your throat in a minute if given half a chance. His dad must have been the smartest one of the bunch, He never run around shooting his mouth off like that.

Big dog

Feed them, give them clothing and shoes, give them medical attention, and send them back home. Maybe the parents will follow ( but I doubt it).

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Usually when Obama is mentioned on OPP it's that he did everything wrong so it's somewhat surprising that Trump supporters are leaning on Obama in this instant. If what he did was wrong, then continuing or expanding that policy is wrong now. If what he did was not wrong, then that needs to be part of the argument also.

I have refrained from commenting too harshly on what is highly complex. It's really a shame that this important issue has become so politicized. I also think if the Republicans are going to rely on the Obama precedent, they have an opportunity to take some of the politics out of the picture....if they take it. It would require not demonizing him and acknowledging that the situation as it exists offers nothing but rocks and hard places.

Loki Loc: Georgia

The problem is the SCOTUS decision of Reno v Flores (1993) which forbids children from being incarcerated with adults. So what do you do? Most of the children who were separated were with parents who were sneaking in. What do you do? Just turn the parents loose?
Trump's order ending this practice should provide all sorts of ammo for court cases where a SCOTUS ruling is defied.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank You for posting this article...

This is well known now but obviously not when everyone was gunning for Trump and doing the horror filled separation of kids with puctures actually from Bos’ term in office..

Isn’t it nice to watch them yet again kicking their own Derrière with lies following the realization of it being under Bo...They even use the excuse there was mass influx to justify his action yet Trumps is just to get the wall built...

Of course I do wonder why we still have 12,000 kids in detention??? That needs resolution and sending them back to the country they came from... Where are the concerned parent that they don’t care if their child is detained?? No family to get them?? Riiiggghhttt, means they have to go home to them thats why they don’t bother..

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Rocks and hard places.

I respect the separation of powers, but in cases like this we perhaps could use a little more co-operation between the branches. I respect that you raise these questions. I have no answers and plenty of questions also. This is one of problems to which we need a quintessential American solution and given our current state of affairs, I have no clue on the way forward.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Exactly why Congress needs to solidfy laws in place .. Don’t need new law just tweeking of that already in place..

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Awww cmon, WCS! I know you're smarter than this!
Here, hold my beer wilst I splain it to ya.

This is an obvious attempt by the l*****ts to damage the Trump administration, and the red team before the mid-term in hopes of gaining ground in the house, and senate.
Yeah, it's a b***h of a problem, but Trump didn't create it, and those kids are living in much better conditions than they did with the past administration. The pictures prove that. And the fact that the terrible pictures that were being blamed on this administration should make it obvious that it's being used politically by the l*****ts. They don't give two squirts of duck s**t about the well being of those kids. They are nothing but political ammo.
I honestly don't see any kind of solution coming anytime soon because the blue team, and half the red team are against Donald Trump because he's Donald Trump.

There's my take on it.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Big dog

Blue team no doubt, but I sure hope not half of the red team.
The blue team are nothing but rabble rousers. That's obvious, and I'm sure everyone feels for these poor children. Problem is, the liberals don't WANT a solution. They Need something to b***h about or they would lose their sense of self importance.
Liberal democrats only want to divide the nation so they can obtain POWER. They forgot that WE THE PEOPLE are the power.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

I get you. That's why I wrote the politics need to come out of it.

I wasn't speaking to this issue only. The 'caged children' are a symptom and representation of a much larger and complex set of issues....migration, border security, i*********n l*w, etc. It's hard to deal with these issues when the teams are playing against each other.

I also don't see a solution in these circumstances.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

How about if we charge the parents with child endangerment along with their border jumping violations, and human trafficking for those who claim children are theirs when they're not?

Loki Loc: Georgia

I have three. Eliminate chain migration. Implement E Verify with sever penalties for US employers who knowingly hire i******s. End Birth citizenship for the children of i******s, since it is at odds with the intent of the 14th Amendment they rely on.
Elimination of chain migration would stop everyone's supposed cousins Pablo and Conchita from immigrating. E Verify would mostly solve the problem of stolen and fraudulent ID. This has two benefits; first it does much to eliminate the jobs some aliens come for, it punishes unscrupulous employers, and it also will stop the rampant fraud and abuse of the benefits intended for US citizens.
The author of the first section of the 14th Amendment, Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan, stated publicly that his intent in writing the section was only to provide full citizenship benefits for former s***es and their children, and he stated it did not apply to foreigners. He said it was a re-statement of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, (passed, incidentally by that very same Congress) which specifically excludes the children of foreigners born on US soil.

I would add one more. There are currently more than one million Mexican citizens waiting patiently to become US citizens the legal way. These people have demonstrated their willingness to respect our laws rather than ignore or break them. This shows me they would be good citizens and welcome additions to the country. How about a little help for them instead of bending over backwards to kiss a wetback's ass?