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“My Dog Is A Democrat”
Jun 21, 2018 11:52:07   #
Cripple
 
“My Dog Is A Democrat”, a funny & cute song. I just heard it this morning (OK, OK I guess I don’t get out much). I have 4 dogs in this house and now I’m convinced they all are Democrats. lol

There are parts of this Immigration stuff that doesn’t make sense. Those of us who were in the military can all agree on this; the government uses way too much paperwork. We think it is a safe assumption that someone in the government would keep track of every name of every person and family in-which action was taken (i.e. arrested, detained, t***sported, etc.) You get on an airplane to take a trip within this country you have a ticket with your name, you have to show I.D., you even have to account for luggage and assigned seat, that is a private company airline. We all feel it is a safe assumption the government has even more documentation for every sneeze. (OK, the sneeze part may be going too far)

North Korea, China, Russia, places of severe dictatorship where Human-Rights are severely restricted, if a person of the press wanted into a facility that restrictive government would easily deny them. If you want to see pictures (at least something new) the press could go into the facility but in this case pictures are “provided” so the government gives you what they want you to see. WHAT?! Officials, elected in this case, try to tour some government facility and are denied! WHAT?! This is C*******m and certainly "not" a Democracy, or this representative government. Is that what you are part of? Not me!

I remember telling people who asked I would respond with I’m a Republican because I believe in Freedom, I believe in small government (really who would not agree with small government), etc. I’m an Independent now but Republicans nowadays can’t say the Freedom part because Dept. of Human Whoever, etc. are NOT dealing with National Security in these immigration issues. Children are involved in a NOC list, troop movements in a war zone, what is this? Answer: Dictatorship, C*******m, Tyranny. So this is you? To be an “ethical” person you stand-up for what is right, you speak-up when you see something that is wrong. Keeping quiet is not ethical conduct.

Please don’t be naïve! I’m not involved working in the current White House, but some years ago (you better not say decades) such an Immigration plan was discussed for months, maybe a year or more. This Immigration plan did not happen as a knee-jerk command to the Border Patrol. This issue, and the Executive Order, was all planned in detail prior to being enacted, and the press just helps the government along simply because they are not that smart but also they are governed by money and how much they can talk. If I was a betting man, I would put money on what I said above.

Linda, I'm still reading the IG report, fell asleep reading it last night. 568 pages takes awhile especially with me hi-lighting & leaving comments.

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Jun 24, 2018 17:03:25   #
PJT
 
The immigration issue involves national security. Anytime criminals come in, particularly illegally, its a national security. Any terrorist or anti Semite who enters is a national security issue. Any time drugs or drug cartel comes in or helps others come in its a national security issue. Any American who advocates non-citizens, i******s or not, its a national security issue. Those of you who tear up and get enraged over pictures of children separated from their parents in illegal entry matters should search to see if the kids are. Kids of those who claim to be their parent. Any pictures of detention areas should be questioned. STOP THE FLOW OF TEARS OVER I******S. I******S ARE A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.

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Jun 26, 2018 19:49:41   #
Cripple
 
Dear PJT, Did you know when our country (in the past as now) enters into an agreement to a Treaty, it must be approved by our Senate, then becomes law. It was the U.S. who negotiated the Human Rights Treaty of 1948, approved by our Senate. If a person comes to a border due to violence they are not illegal, never have been illegal. It was us, the U.S. society, who did not believe what that person said hence the need for judges. Are you entitled to due process? I certainly do agree people doing what you explain is illegal. The percentages are much lower than relayed. I live most my life in southern Arizona, saw it with my own eyes. We expect 10% of bad people in our own society but those immigrants it's more like 0.1% but people believe what they want to believe. T***h means little any more. We spend a huge amount of money throwing repeated illegal criminals in our own prisons, huge amount.

I've asked this one person, neighbor, who complains about this called me a "Bleeding Heart" and I ask why doesn't yours? I do take some blame as a long time Republican, v**ed for Trump, then researched and caught him in so many lies, I'm so surprised when I see what our society has turned into. National Security has been used too often, stretched so far that now it's used for everything, even it's national security because the public may become upset and r**t if they knew the t***h.

Do you remember the Catholic migration from North Vietnam to South Vietnam? All the murders, rapes, kidnapping. I saw it myself in Vietnam but h**e to say our society has forgot.

Enough is enough for me. People who believe wh**ever they are told. I dislike I've turned into a researcher but at least ethics still means something to me.

PJT wrote:
The immigration issue involves national security. Anytime criminals come in, particularly illegally, its a national security. Any terrorist or anti Semite who enters is a national security issue. Any time drugs or drug cartel comes in or helps others come in its a national security issue. Any American who advocates non-citizens, i******s or not, its a national security issue. Those of you who tear up and get enraged over pictures of children separated from their parents in illegal entry matters should search to see if the kids are. Kids of those who claim to be their parent. Any pictures of detention areas should be questioned. STOP THE FLOW OF TEARS OVER I******S. I******S ARE A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.
The immigration issue involves national security. ... (show quote)

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Jun 26, 2018 21:07:07   #
PJT
 
You assume a lot. A person who comes to our border claiming they flee violence doesn't make it so. Verify. Coming illegally makes it worse. The amount of money spent to get on illegally makes it more suspicious.
Here is a question for you. How many should we let in? 100,000? 50,000,000?
Legal or illegal, how does that justify letting them v**e...even in local e******ns? How does it justify giving them citizenship? How many people are getting in illegally at 17 years old or younger? Why is it wrong for Pres. Trump and AG Sessions to separate families but nobody protested it under Obama or before? And how does it justify doctored photos on the cover of Time Magazine and an Obama era "cage" pic. Of kids? No my heart doesn't bleed for them. What happened to national p***e and protecting our nation. Oh as long as the extremists can harm Trump and seize government for the Democrats I guess it's all right.

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Jun 28, 2018 14:40:28   #
Cripple
 
I put effort into what I "assume", I read, research and don't call anyone a liar until I can prove it. I've found that when I footnote or post where I got the t***h is only inviting those I use to call "single digit mental midgets" quoting some blog somewhere as the t***h and come across with name-calling and other belittling things.
If someone can show me the assumption, I welcome it, always willing to learn. How many should we let-in, a limit is not given on the 1948 Treaty. Have you read it? The Library of Congress is helpful to me getting a copy. Our Constitution & Treaty gives them, a citizen equal to you or me, those people went to classes, taught more than someone who is given citizenship as an infant born in the U.S. as my kids were (2 in military hospitals in this country). The illegal I would check into. The Obama administration (I don't like Obama btw) there was no order to separate families (I had to research that one) there were families where the children were separated but you could count those on your fingers over the 8 years as President.
The refusal to allow our elected people access goes right to the point to me (so many lies around us all, so many people trying to get our support using lies, when I catch them in the lie the desired reaction from me is opposite. I do not support the liars.
I'm so upset at the Dems and now Repubs for the lies. I'm now an Independent, registered, dislike all the lies including lies of omission. The fight against lies is now my passion.

PJT wrote:
You assume a lot. A person who comes to our border claiming they flee violence doesn't make it so. Verify. Coming illegally makes it worse. The amount of money spent to get on illegally makes it more suspicious.
Here is a question for you. How many should we let in? 100,000? 50,000,000?
Legal or illegal, how does that justify letting them v**e...even in local e******ns? How does it justify giving them citizenship? How many people are getting in illegally at 17 years old or younger? Why is it wrong for Pres. Trump and AG Sessions to separate families but nobody protested it under Obama or before? And how does it justify doctored photos on the cover of Time Magazine and an Obama era "cage" pic. Of kids? No my heart doesn't bleed for them. What happened to national p***e and protecting our nation. Oh as long as the extremists can harm Trump and seize government for the Democrats I guess it's all right.
You assume a lot. A person who comes to our borde... (show quote)

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