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Trump's claim that Trudeau made him look weak is advance excuse for NK summit failure
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Jun 12, 2018 16:52:49   #
kemmer
 
Super Dave wrote:
Your trolling is getting worse and worse...

Your desperation is written all over your posts.

Hahaha... Methinks thou dost protest too much.

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Jun 12, 2018 16:55:15   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
kemmer wrote:
Hahaha... Methinks thou dost protest too much.

You're the protesting, Dumplestilskin...

Try again.

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Jun 12, 2018 16:56:10   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
son of witless wrote:
You keep keep running out that " 8 billion dollar surplus in trade with Canada.." shpiel. Well that seems to be largely a matter of opinion.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-12/trump-may-actually-be-right-about-the-trade-deficit-with-canada

At any rate, whether it is accurate or not, it only takes in one year. According to the article I posted, between 1994 and 2016 by any measuring stick Canada ran an accumulated C$1.2 trillion surplus with the US.

Geeeeee, so lets us look at figggurs. $ 8 Billion MAYBE for 2017. C$1.2 trillion accumulated over 1994-2016.

Maybe it's me or maybe something is lost in the conversion from American dollars to Canadian dollars, but off the top of my head I am guessing C$1.2 trillion is just a tad larger than $ 8 Billion.
You keep keep running out that " 8 billion d... (show quote)




I think you are a tad correct about which is larger..

NOw I am confused..i had only seen the artile which i quoted from. It is in several publications..

With the one on your link.. from dec 17, now I will have to hope i find something to sort out all the differing figures..

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-12/trump-may-actually-be-right-about-the-trade-deficit-with-canada


Does the U.S. run a trade deficit or surplus with Canada? It depends where you look.

President Donald Trump asserted -- again -- Friday the U.S. runs “a pretty good trade deficit” with Canada. The claim was quickly rebuffed by Canada’s ambassador to the U.S., David MacNaughton, who cited American data saying the opposite was true.

Canadian officials tend to use U.S. data to make their case and the Bureau of Economic Analysis has calculated the U.S. had a $7.7 billion surplus in 2016. But Statistics Canada data show it’s Canada with the surplus in goods and services, totaling C$18.8 billion ($14.6 billion) last year. That’s a $22.3 billion difference between the two measures.

The debate isn’t just academic. The two countries, along with Mexico, are renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump says needs to be corrected for trade imbalances. A mini-round of talks is happening this week in Washington, but with Canadian and U.S. statistics showing opposite pictures of the status quo any remedy remains unclear.




Does the U.S. run a trade deficit or surplus with Canada? It depends where you look.

President Donald Trump asserted -- again -- Friday the U.S. runs “a pretty good trade deficit” with Canada. The claim was quickly rebuffed by Canada’s ambassador to the U.S., David MacNaughton, who cited American data saying the opposite was true.

Canadian officials tend to use U.S. data to make their case and the Bureau of Economic Analysis has calculated the U.S. had a $7.7 billion surplus in 2016. But Statistics Canada data show it’s Canada with the surplus in goods and services, totaling C$18.8 billion ($14.6 billion) last year. That’s a $22.3 billion difference between the two measures.

The debate isn’t just academic. The two countries, along with Mexico, are renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Trump says needs to be corrected for trade imbalances. A mini-round of talks is happening this week in Washington, but with Canadian and U.S. statistics showing opposite pictures of the status quo any remedy remains unclear.


MacNaughton zeroed in on the issue last week when he took to Twitter in response to Trump. The ambassador also noted a $36 billion U.S. surplus in manufacturing in a Bloomberg TV interview Thursday, again citing American data. “If what the U.S. is interested in is trade balances, I’d really like to see some proposals come as to how to right the trade balance between Canada and the United States, which is in your favor.”


Trump’s Numbers
Since it’s the Trump administration crying foul, Canadian officials say it’s only fair to use the U.S. government’s own assessment of trade imbalances.

“Canada does not see trade balances as a useful measure of the benefits of trade, but since the U.S. does, we’re using their own data that clearly states the United States has a trade surplus with Canada,” Adam Austen, a spokesman for Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland, said in an emailed statement.

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Jun 12, 2018 17:00:57   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump has the hots for him.


Do you have the hots for obama??.. careful what you wish for, Barry may bury his unrequited love up it..

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Jun 12, 2018 17:03:40   #
kemmer
 
byronglimish wrote:
Do you have the hots for obama??.. careful what you wish for, Barry may bury his unrequited love up it..


I think Byron has the hots for Rudy Giuliani, and I think they deserve each other.

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Jun 12, 2018 17:15:08   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
kemmer wrote:
I think Byron has the hots for Rudy Giuliani, and I think they deserve each other.


Yeah, we went out once but he was ready to join the " Me Too" N**is afterwards..

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Jun 12, 2018 17:18:50   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Kevyn wrote:
Trudeau is a gentleman and statesman but more importantly his word is good. Trump on the other hand is a boorish buffoon and a repeatedly proven compulsive liar. Under what circumstance should any thinking person take Trumps word over Trudeau’s?

"A boorish baffoon and a repeatedly proven compulsive liar"

Gosh, kevvy, I just used those exact words when talking about you...

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Jun 12, 2018 17:30:55   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump gave away the military exercises and got nebulous promises, blindsiding the S. Koreans. Sweet. Not!


kemmer: We have been involved in "Team Spirit" for fifty years!.....Not a problem in exercising the option to start it up again anytime! Silly rabbit!

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Jun 12, 2018 17:31:01   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
"A boorish baffoon and a repeatedly proven compulsive liar"

Gosh, kevvy, I just used those exact words when talking about you...
Poor Kevvy's life is flashing before his eyes.

Every Trump success to Kevvy is like a vampire being hit with a cross.



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Jun 12, 2018 17:38:24   #
king hall Loc: Tucson,AZ.
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Trump claim that Trudeau made Trump look weak is planting an excuse for a North Korean summit failure. Trump never is wrong; someone else must be at fault when things don't go his way.


How did that forecast work out for you?

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Jun 12, 2018 17:51:26   #
rational1
 
So I could say anybody who does is a N**i. What does that all mean, like kids in a school yard.

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Jun 12, 2018 18:02:44   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
rational1 wrote:
So I could say anybody who does is a N**i. What does that all mean, like kids in a school yard.


Dear person "rational".. Hasn't anyone made you aware that the ...'Quote Reply'...dilly bob...is how you choose your target...run your nose picker on on that and the person who you are Specifically addressing will be able to reply in kind.. whether rational or wh**ever..Welcome, by the way..

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Jun 12, 2018 18:12:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
We're playing nice, Perm! Nice to see. I was impressed. When you (Chrmn Kim) are up against the wall economically, you are more vulnerable. I think Trump offered him a few things that Kim really needed and it wasn't a pallet full of cash. Trump took a lot and gave little, so far. the remains of soldiers was something he didn't have to do but he did it for so many Americans who have lost loved ones. I liked everything about it. Stayed up until 2:30 watching the pressor. The fact that he has the sanctions still place is crucial. that will make Kim act 'that much faster'. And he has approx. 300 more if things get sticky. "the art of the deal" and this was yuuuuuge!!!! Sorry, buddy, this was big for the midterms. And 2020? Get that moron slug Cory Booker who doesn't know ass from a hole in the ground to run. My first choice and we'll only have to spend 1/10th of what we spent against the LIAR/FELON. Booker is perfect. Cocky, so close to the socialist/Marxist/c*******t ideology of Obummer, shows no respect for smart guys like Mike Pompeo, who was crucial in the outcome of this Summit. Cory just wanted to give him s**t about his Christianity. cory forgot for minute that we still have "freedom of religion" but it was one big put down, like they try to do constantly to Mike Pence. Joy Behar and her ilk. D********g! I will say one thing ~ you are pretty polite for the most part and so I will try to cut you some slack and show you some undeserving respect...LOL BTW, had some turkey talking it up that President Trump went over there almost on a whim or better yet, impromptu. These people are pathetic. FOX is great no matter how you slice. You get Shep Smith not a fan of Trump, Juan Williams, Tarlov, Jessice you get a good cross-section from both sides. Cnn you get constant 24/7 Trump bashing (right up your alley I know). Gets old fast.
We're playing nice, Perm! Nice to see. I was imp... (show quote)




what in the world did trump get?? he gave verbal, up the war games with SK which have been held for near 70 years, he put Kim on the world stage, that alone makes all the commotion worth it for Kim..

i do not like Booker...

China did not honor the sanctions for the last couple weeks.. when told trump said it did not matter... is that the lever we are holding over Kim?

This has only started, it is a long term effort. months maybe years.. Midterms?? Look to health care, trade/tariffs to be big issues.. at this point..

While I hope the US will manage great progress. it has not changed my view of trump. he was and is in a sweat about Mueller. when Kim asked him to talk, he leaped at the chance and i did not see
any effort by him to be personally involved with the talks..

While there is not such thing as too much trump bashing.. CNN does much more than simply rant about the orange con man..

I have been for some time trying to watch BBC more, it is very good and give much more info around the world then the network news.. I do not have cable so fox as you watch is only shown via computer.. I do not like to
watch anything on the computer..

the local Fox station news is a run of the mill show, with no particular lean that I notice.. But I do not care for the hottie they use to attract the viewers..

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Jun 12, 2018 20:02:53   #
bdamage Loc: My Bunker
 
Chocura750 wrote:
Trump claim that Trudeau made Trump look weak is planting an excuse for a North Korean summit failure. Trump never is wrong; someone else must be at fault when things don't go his way.


You're joking, right?







And finally....what all you left looneys wished
And finally....what all you left looneys wished...

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Jun 12, 2018 20:30:26   #
fullspinzoo
 
kemmer wrote:
Trump has the hots for him.


So what if... you guys on the left, that's all you preach about. Don't be knocking your famous L**T community. Hots for him? Right up your alley...don't take that literally.

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