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Jun 7, 2018 08:09:34   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.

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Jun 7, 2018 08:17:47   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietna... (show quote)


We need to correct this shameful oversight immediately. I'm thinking a medal is in order, something that is 7.62 mm x 89mm to be pinned right over his heart in a public ceremony.

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Jun 7, 2018 08:42:36   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietna... (show quote)


That has to be a slap in the face to an full blooded Marine.

I was just a desk jockey & that was a far cry from what any Marine went through even in peace time.
I can only be thankful for not having to face what Marines faced in battle.
One need not point out to me that even the training they faced was much more intense then mine.

I can understand that being a Marine builds a bond between those that have serve together that is unmatched any where.
In peace time & expressly so in war.

My hat is off to you & all Marines. You set the standards we all should have.

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Jun 7, 2018 08:52:23   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
That has to be a slap in the face to an full blooded Marine.

I was just a desk jockey & that was a far cry from what any Marine went through even in peace time.
I can only be thankful for not having to face what Marines faced in battle.
One need not point out to me that even the training they faced was much more intense then mine.

I can understand that being a Marine builds a bond between those that have serve together that is unmatched any where.
In peace time & expressly so in war.

My hat is off to you & all Marines. You set the standards we all should have.
That has to be a slap in the face to an full bloo... (show quote)



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Jun 7, 2018 08:54:56   #
moldyoldy
 
This is not satire

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Jun 7, 2018 10:03:35   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Floyd Brown wrote:
That has to be a slap in the face to an full blooded Marine.

I was just a desk jockey & that was a far cry from what any Marine went through even in peace time.
I can only be thankful for not having to face what Marines faced in battle.
One need not point out to me that even the training they faced was much more intense then mine.

I can understand that being a Marine builds a bond between those that have serve together that is unmatched any where.
In peace time & expressly so in war.

My hat is off to you & all Marines. You set the standards we all should have.
That has to be a slap in the face to an full bloo... (show quote)

Thank you brother. I have a dozen employees working and living here.

All our brother's and sister's and all true American patriots every where long may old glory fly over the land of the free and home of the brave.

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Jun 7, 2018 10:07:44   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
[quote=Floyd Brown]"That has to be a slap in the face to an full blooded Marine.

I can understand that being a Marine builds a bond between those that have served together that is unmatched any where."
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You're pretty much on the mark with your understanding, Floyd.... Google: donaldtrumpspersonalvietnam

In 1997, Donald Trump, who showed his personal courage by dodging the draft in the 1960’s, had the gall to compare his heroism by sleeping with multiple women to the heroism shown by the brave men and women who served the United States in Vietnam.

Interviewed by Howard Stern in 1997, Trump had the audacity to make the incredible claim that by risking his schlong to venereal disease from his sexual peccadilloes, his courage matched those who gave their lives facing mortar fire and bullets across the sea. Speaking of his sexual exploits, Trump bragged, “I’ve been so lucky in terms of that whole world. It is a dangerous world out there. It’s scary, like Vietnam. Sort of like the Vietnam-era. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier.”

Trump has a history of hyperbolic statements regarding his own courage, having likened his time in military boarding school to actual military training. He told the author of a book about Trump that his time in military school gave him “more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military.”

The rich man protected himself by gaining multiple deferments to avoid being drafted while others fought overseas.

Trump likening himself to genuine heroes dovetails with his “genuine” regard for veterans in general; Trump’s respect ends when it endangers his business. In 1991, he wrote a letter to John Dearie, then-chairman of the state Assembly’s Committee on Cities, decrying the presence of veterans who were peddling on Fifth Avenue. Trump wrote: “While disabled veterans should be given every opportunity to earn a living, is it fair to do so to the detriment of the city as a whole or its tax paying citizens and businesses? Do we allow Fifth Ave., one of the world’s finest and most luxurious shopping districts, to be turned into an outdoor flea market, clogging and seriously downgrading the area?”

The city of New York started making peddling exceptions for veterans in 1894 so disabled Civil War veterans could make a living.

"It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier." Donald Trump, likening his risk of STDs from sleeping around to American soldiers in Vietnam

Of course, this is the same man of courage who said of Sen. John McCain, locked in a box for five years in Vietnam rather than desert his comrades-in-arms, “He’s not a war hero. I like people that weren’t captured, OK?”

Trump comparing the risk of venereal disease to his g*****ls to the heroism of those who fought and died for their country is enough to turn your stomach.
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[quote/slatten49] I write the following because I feel further needs to be said about Donald Trumps' comments on the Howard Stern Show about 20 years ago.

In the field, particularly, but also on the hospital ship USS Sanctuary in 1968, I saw kids my age whose bodies were ripped apart by gunfire from rifles or automatic weapons, artillery rounds, mortar rounds and booby traps from the enemy in Viet Nam. My lesser wounds allowed me times to walk through the wards visiting those who were left without arms, legs, g*****ls or had suffered damage to various body parts, including their facial structure and features. Many had also lost all sense of who they were before incurring such wounds, from psychological and emotional damage. I had a kid younger than I die in the bed next to me. IMO, he died of a broken heart. The day before, he had received a 'Dear John' letter from his fiancee' back home. That letter (again, IMO) destroyed his will to live. This, after he had struggled mightily to achieve a certain degree of recovery...enough to have him scheduled to go on to Japan for better treatment and surgery necessary to guarantee a somewhat normal life.

For Trump, in any way, to compare the 'dangers' of dating from STDs, etc. to the experiences of young men who sacrificed their lives and body parts in combat service to their country in Viet Nam or any war was/is abominable to me. When I first became aware of his comments, I was livid with anger. This many years later, I am reminded of the callousness and obvious disregard for the feelings of friends or families who lost loved ones in that or any war shown by Mr. Trump. Whether one chooses to call his tone "mocking," "sarcastic," or just down-right thoughtless, I cannot forgive him. Neither could I tolerate his belittling of John McCain's service or the associated belittling of all POWs for 'getting captured.' I won't listen to anybody who tells me he didn't belittle all of them with his all-encompassing remarks. I watched and listened/heard his own words. I personally know two living POWs and knew a survivor of the Bataan death march of American POWs in WWII. The last died a number of years ago, but the other two survived tortuous treatment by their captors and remain with us today. By surviving, they each were able to return and have families that, no doubt, help each forget the months and years of their imprisonments.

Trump's statements exceeded stupid, especially since he was playing to an audience and being recorded, both for radio and TV...and, for posterity. He was, at that time, also around the age of fifty...an age most would have shown some maturity and empathy for those who did not have his good fortune in escaping service before, during and after college, but instead served their nation. Again, the families and friends who either didn't return from that horrific war, or, returned physically and/or psychologically maimed did/do not need to be hearing of Mr. Trump's bravery and courage in the dating game being equated to other's service to country.

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Jun 7, 2018 10:15:27   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Am very surprise the web master let your post be posted, that post gives reason for a visit from the FBI. Threats to any president are serious, even from a knucklehead like you.


lpnmajor wrote:
We need to correct this shameful oversight immediately. I'm thinking a medal is in order, something that is 7.62 mm x 89mm to be pinned right over his heart in a public ceremony.

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Jun 7, 2018 10:41:47   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
lpnmajor wrote:
We need to correct this shameful oversight immediately. I'm thinking a medal is in order, something that is 7.62 mm x 89mm to be pinned right over his heart in a public ceremony.


You shouldn't insinuate assassination of the commander and chief..

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Jun 7, 2018 10:51:10   #
badbobby Loc: texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This is not satire


yeah moldy it is

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Jun 7, 2018 10:56:40   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietna... (show quote)

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Great satire.

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Jun 7, 2018 11:01:45   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
moldyoldy wrote:
This is not satire

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I don't believe 45 offered it as such.

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Jun 7, 2018 11:30:45   #
moldyoldy
 
badbobby wrote:
yeah moldy it is


It fits so perfectly with what he has said.

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Jun 7, 2018 11:32:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietna... (show quote)


There are i***ts who will believe this a true story even though the author is a satirist.

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Jun 7, 2018 11:51:50   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietnam by Staying in U.S.

By Satirist Andy Borowitz

President Donald Trump revealed a little-known episode of personal heroism from his youth in telling an audience that he narrowly avoided capture in Vietnam by remaining in the United States for the duration of the war.

“The Cong were after me,” Trump said, visibly stirred by the memory. “And then, just in the nick of time, I got my deferment.”

The former reality-show star said he had never shared his record as a war hero before because “I don’t like to boast.”

He said that he only disclosed the episode now because “the way this nation treats our deferment veterans is a disgrace.”

Trump complained that he received no official commendation or medal for his heroism, calling the lack of recognition “shameful.”

“Those brave Americans who, like me, avoided being captured by not serving at all—we are the true heroes,” he said.

Trump’s tale of valor appeared to move many members of his audience, some of whom waited in line after his speech to thank him for his lack of service.
Trump Says He Heroically Avoided Capture in Vietna... (show quote)


You boys woke up in a nasty funk this morning.

You've even got one of your fellow Trump h**ers ( Lpnmajor ), threatening to assassinate president Trump at a public ceremony.

You boys are clearly aligned with pure evil.

H**e festers in the heart of a man that has become possessed by evil.

I will certainly speak with my Father on this matter.

I hope you can see how easily you have provoked one of our fellow citizens into a lust for blood.

And for what reason ?

Because you h**e a man who you have never met and has never threatened you personally.

Only one thing can influence a man to the brink of cold blooded murder.

Evil...................Pure Evil.

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