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Jun 5, 2018 22:54:49   #
Sicilianthing
 
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War?
By: Robert Reich
Contributor
Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the…

Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Rightwing social media call for war. As i**********n spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”

Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the e******n. He charges v***r f***d, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of i*****l i*******ts to v**e against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and r**ts ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.

If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.’), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.

The United States is premised on an agreement about how to deal with our disagreements. It’s called the Constitution. We trust our system of government enough that we abide by its outcomes even though we may disagree with them. Only once in our history – in 1861 – did enough of us distrust the system so much we succumbed to civil war.

But what happens if a president claims our system is no longer trustworthy?

Last week Trump accused the “deep state” of embedding a spy in his campaign for political purposes. “Spygate” soon unraveled after Republican House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy dismissed it, but t***h has never silenced Trump for long.

Trump’s immediate goal is to discredit Robert Mueller’s investigation. But his strategy appears to go beyond that. In tweets and on Fox News, Trump’s overall mission is repeatedly described as a “war on the deep state.”

In his 2013 novel “A Delicate T***h,” John le Carré describes the “deep state” as a moneyed élite — “non-governmental insiders from banking, industry, and commerce” who rule in secret.

America already may be close to that sort of deep state. As Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Professor Benjamin Page of Northwestern University found after analyzing 1,799 policy issues that came before Congress, “the preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Instead, Gilens and Page concluded, lawmakers respond to the policy demands of wealthy individuals and moneyed business interests.

Gilens’ and Page’s data come from the period 1981 to 2002, before the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to big money in its “Citizens United” decision. It’s likely to be far worse now.

So when Trump says the political system is “r****d,” he’s not far off the mark. Bernie Sanders said the same thing.

A Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority of Americans already believes that an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy.

But here’s the crucial distinction. Trump’s “deep state” isn’t the moneyed interests. It’s a supposed cabal of government workers, intelligence personnel, researchers, experts, scientists, professors, and journalists – the people who make, advise about, analyze, or report on public policy.

In the real world, they’re supposed to be t***h-tellers. In Trump’s conspiracy fantasy they’re out to get him – in cahoots with former members of the Obama administration, liberals, and Democrats.

Trump has never behaved as if he thought he was president of all Americans, anyway. He’s acted as if he’s only the president of the 63 million who v**ed for him – certainly not the 66 million who v**ed for Hillary or anyone who supported Obama.

Nor has he shown any interest in unifying the nation, or speaking to the nation as a whole. Instead, he periodically throws red meat to his overwhelmingly white, rural, and older base.

And he has repeatedly shown he couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

So what happens if Trump is about to be removed – by impeachment or even an e******n?

In early April, Sean Hannity predicted that if impeachment began, “there’s going to be two sides of this that are fighting and dividing this country at a level we’ve never seen” – “those that stand for t***h and those that literally buy into the corrupt deep state attacks against a duly elected president.”

Last summer, Trump consigliore Roger Stone warned of “an i**********n like you’ve never seen,” and claimed any politician who v**ed to oust Trump “would be endangering their own life.”

A second civil war? Probably not. But the way Trump and his defenders are behaving, it’s not absurd to imagine serious social unrest. That’s how low he’s taken us.

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Jun 5, 2018 23:36:32   #
badbob85037
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War?
By: Robert Reich
Contributor
Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the…

Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Rightwing social media call for war. As i**********n spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”

Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the e******n. He charges v***r f***d, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of i*****l i*******ts to v**e against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and r**ts ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.

If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.’), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.

The United States is premised on an agreement about how to deal with our disagreements. It’s called the Constitution. We trust our system of government enough that we abide by its outcomes even though we may disagree with them. Only once in our history – in 1861 – did enough of us distrust the system so much we succumbed to civil war.

But what happens if a president claims our system is no longer trustworthy?

Last week Trump accused the “deep state” of embedding a spy in his campaign for political purposes. “Spygate” soon unraveled after Republican House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy dismissed it, but t***h has never silenced Trump for long.

Trump’s immediate goal is to discredit Robert Mueller’s investigation. But his strategy appears to go beyond that. In tweets and on Fox News, Trump’s overall mission is repeatedly described as a “war on the deep state.”

In his 2013 novel “A Delicate T***h,” John le Carré describes the “deep state” as a moneyed élite — “non-governmental insiders from banking, industry, and commerce” who rule in secret.

America already may be close to that sort of deep state. As Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Professor Benjamin Page of Northwestern University found after analyzing 1,799 policy issues that came before Congress, “the preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Instead, Gilens and Page concluded, lawmakers respond to the policy demands of wealthy individuals and moneyed business interests.

Gilens’ and Page’s data come from the period 1981 to 2002, before the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to big money in its “Citizens United” decision. It’s likely to be far worse now.

So when Trump says the political system is “r****d,” he’s not far off the mark. Bernie Sanders said the same thing.

A Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority of Americans already believes that an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy.

But here’s the crucial distinction. Trump’s “deep state” isn’t the moneyed interests. It’s a supposed cabal of government workers, intelligence personnel, researchers, experts, scientists, professors, and journalists – the people who make, advise about, analyze, or report on public policy.

In the real world, they’re supposed to be t***h-tellers. In Trump’s conspiracy fantasy they’re out to get him – in cahoots with former members of the Obama administration, liberals, and Democrats.

Trump has never behaved as if he thought he was president of all Americans, anyway. He’s acted as if he’s only the president of the 63 million who v**ed for him – certainly not the 66 million who v**ed for Hillary or anyone who supported Obama.

Nor has he shown any interest in unifying the nation, or speaking to the nation as a whole. Instead, he periodically throws red meat to his overwhelmingly white, rural, and older base.

And he has repeatedly shown he couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

So what happens if Trump is about to be removed – by impeachment or even an e******n?

In early April, Sean Hannity predicted that if impeachment began, “there’s going to be two sides of this that are fighting and dividing this country at a level we’ve never seen” – “those that stand for t***h and those that literally buy into the corrupt deep state attacks against a duly elected president.”

Last summer, Trump consigliore Roger Stone warned of “an i**********n like you’ve never seen,” and claimed any politician who v**ed to oust Trump “would be endangering their own life.”

A second civil war? Probably not. But the way Trump and his defenders are behaving, it’s not absurd to imagine serious social unrest. That’s how low he’s taken us.
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War? br... (show quote)


I have been calling for revolution since Clinton burned down that church in Waco, murdered Foster and Brown, having his jack booted thugs k*****g innocent from sea to shining sea. K*****g with hollow core ammunition they first outlawed from us then refined with razor sharp steel. When a government thug can get away with shooting a woman in the head under orders while holding her baby that is a government that needs put down. Especially when the one giving those orders is promoted.

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Jun 5, 2018 23:48:07   #
Sicilianthing
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I have been calling for revolution since Clinton burned down that church in Waco, murdered Foster and Brown, having his jack booted thugs k*****g innocent from sea to shining sea. K*****g with hollow core ammunition they first outlawed from us then refined with razor sharp steel. When a government thug can get away with shooting a woman in the head under orders while holding her baby that is a government that needs put down. Especially when the one giving those orders is promoted.


>>>>

You know I totally agree with you and I’ve been studying these stories and the ones before them and Too think it’s past time...

It’s cooked and it’s almost over...

Trump is the final lap before we fight and if my calculations are correct Trump will bring us to the final lines that divide us ...

Trump will bring us into the Fight by what he does not accomplish and by what he does if turns out to be a T*****r.

I still support him for now but on Dec 31st all bets are off if hasn’t dropped the Hammer by then.

More later...
This Topic shows the lunacy of the scumbag immigrant invasion and the effects of their ignorance the founders warned us against...



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Jun 6, 2018 00:56:26   #
Radiance3
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War?
By: Robert Reich
Contributor
Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the…

Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Rightwing social media call for war. As i**********n spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”

Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the e******n. He charges v***r f***d, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of i*****l i*******ts to v**e against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and r**ts ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.

If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.’), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.

The United States is premised on an agreement about how to deal with our disagreements. It’s called the Constitution. We trust our system of government enough that we abide by its outcomes even though we may disagree with them. Only once in our history – in 1861 – did enough of us distrust the system so much we succumbed to civil war.

But what happens if a president claims our system is no longer trustworthy?

Last week Trump accused the “deep state” of embedding a spy in his campaign for political purposes. “Spygate” soon unraveled after Republican House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy dismissed it, but t***h has never silenced Trump for long.

Trump’s immediate goal is to discredit Robert Mueller’s investigation. But his strategy appears to go beyond that. In tweets and on Fox News, Trump’s overall mission is repeatedly described as a “war on the deep state.”

In his 2013 novel “A Delicate T***h,” John le Carré describes the “deep state” as a moneyed élite — “non-governmental insiders from banking, industry, and commerce” who rule in secret.

America already may be close to that sort of deep state. As Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Professor Benjamin Page of Northwestern University found after analyzing 1,799 policy issues that came before Congress, “the preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Instead, Gilens and Page concluded, lawmakers respond to the policy demands of wealthy individuals and moneyed business interests.

Gilens’ and Page’s data come from the period 1981 to 2002, before the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to big money in its “Citizens United” decision. It’s likely to be far worse now.

So when Trump says the political system is “r****d,” he’s not far off the mark. Bernie Sanders said the same thing.

A Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority of Americans already believes that an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy.

But here’s the crucial distinction. Trump’s “deep state” isn’t the moneyed interests. It’s a supposed cabal of government workers, intelligence personnel, researchers, experts, scientists, professors, and journalists – the people who make, advise about, analyze, or report on public policy.

In the real world, they’re supposed to be t***h-tellers. In Trump’s conspiracy fantasy they’re out to get him – in cahoots with former members of the Obama administration, liberals, and Democrats.

Trump has never behaved as if he thought he was president of all Americans, anyway. He’s acted as if he’s only the president of the 63 million who v**ed for him – certainly not the 66 million who v**ed for Hillary or anyone who supported Obama.

Nor has he shown any interest in unifying the nation, or speaking to the nation as a whole. Instead, he periodically throws red meat to his overwhelmingly white, rural, and older base.

And he has repeatedly shown he couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

So what happens if Trump is about to be removed – by impeachment or even an e******n?

In early April, Sean Hannity predicted that if impeachment began, “there’s going to be two sides of this that are fighting and dividing this country at a level we’ve never seen” – “those that stand for t***h and those that literally buy into the corrupt deep state attacks against a duly elected president.”

Last summer, Trump consigliore Roger Stone warned of “an i**********n like you’ve never seen,” and claimed any politician who v**ed to oust Trump “would be endangering their own life.”

A second civil war? Probably not. But the way Trump and his defenders are behaving, it’s not absurd to imagine serious social unrest. That’s how low he’s taken us.
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War? br... (show quote)

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Democrats and liberals are so desperate to winning the e******n that they do every fraudulent means to win. That means have been done since 2008 during Obama's e******n. That is why i*****l a***ns are so valuable to the democrats and liberals, because these are the people who take risks illegally v****g for them, so that when democrats win, they will be given amnesty and eventually citizenship.

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Jun 6, 2018 01:06:38   #
Sicilianthing
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Democrats and liberals are so desperate to winning the e******n that they do every fraudulent means to win. That means have been done since 2008 during Obama's e******n. That is why i*****l a***ns are so valuable to the democrats and liberals, because these are the people who take risks illegally v****g for them, so that when democrats win, they will be given amnesty and eventually citizenship.


>>>>

We will go to war if another amnesty happens.
I******s and so called immigrants are causing the destruction and fraud v**er results swaying us away from our foundations.

The founders warned us of these encroachments and failures we are witnessing today.

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Jun 6, 2018 03:57:48   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War?
By: Robert Reich
Contributor
Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the…

Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Rightwing social media call for war. As i**********n spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”

Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the e******n. He charges v***r f***d, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of i*****l i*******ts to v**e against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and r**ts ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.

If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.’), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.

The United States is premised on an agreement about how to deal with our disagreements. It’s called the Constitution. We trust our system of government enough that we abide by its outcomes even though we may disagree with them. Only once in our history – in 1861 – did enough of us distrust the system so much we succumbed to civil war.

But what happens if a president claims our system is no longer trustworthy?

Last week Trump accused the “deep state” of embedding a spy in his campaign for political purposes. “Spygate” soon unraveled after Republican House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy dismissed it, but t***h has never silenced Trump for long.

Trump’s immediate goal is to discredit Robert Mueller’s investigation. But his strategy appears to go beyond that. In tweets and on Fox News, Trump’s overall mission is repeatedly described as a “war on the deep state.”

In his 2013 novel “A Delicate T***h,” John le Carré describes the “deep state” as a moneyed élite — “non-governmental insiders from banking, industry, and commerce” who rule in secret.

America already may be close to that sort of deep state. As Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Professor Benjamin Page of Northwestern University found after analyzing 1,799 policy issues that came before Congress, “the preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Instead, Gilens and Page concluded, lawmakers respond to the policy demands of wealthy individuals and moneyed business interests.

Gilens’ and Page’s data come from the period 1981 to 2002, before the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to big money in its “Citizens United” decision. It’s likely to be far worse now.

So when Trump says the political system is “r****d,” he’s not far off the mark. Bernie Sanders said the same thing.

A Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority of Americans already believes that an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy.

But here’s the crucial distinction. Trump’s “deep state” isn’t the moneyed interests. It’s a supposed cabal of government workers, intelligence personnel, researchers, experts, scientists, professors, and journalists – the people who make, advise about, analyze, or report on public policy.

In the real world, they’re supposed to be t***h-tellers. In Trump’s conspiracy fantasy they’re out to get him – in cahoots with former members of the Obama administration, liberals, and Democrats.

Trump has never behaved as if he thought he was president of all Americans, anyway. He’s acted as if he’s only the president of the 63 million who v**ed for him – certainly not the 66 million who v**ed for Hillary or anyone who supported Obama.

Nor has he shown any interest in unifying the nation, or speaking to the nation as a whole. Instead, he periodically throws red meat to his overwhelmingly white, rural, and older base.

And he has repeatedly shown he couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

So what happens if Trump is about to be removed – by impeachment or even an e******n?

In early April, Sean Hannity predicted that if impeachment began, “there’s going to be two sides of this that are fighting and dividing this country at a level we’ve never seen” – “those that stand for t***h and those that literally buy into the corrupt deep state attacks against a duly elected president.”

Last summer, Trump consigliore Roger Stone warned of “an i**********n like you’ve never seen,” and claimed any politician who v**ed to oust Trump “would be endangering their own life.”

A second civil war? Probably not. But the way Trump and his defenders are behaving, it’s not absurd to imagine serious social unrest. That’s how low he’s taken us.
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War? br... (show quote)


Question: why are republicans winning in California when i*****l i*******ts are suppose to be v****g by the millions to insure that doesn't happen? Why is it you cons want to start a civil war over something that doesn't exist?

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Jun 6, 2018 04:00:01   #
PeterS
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

You know I totally agree with you and I’ve been studying these stories and the ones before them and Too think it’s past time...

It’s cooked and it’s almost over...

Trump is the final lap before we fight and if my calculations are correct Trump will bring us to the final lines that divide us ...

Trump will bring us into the Fight by what he does not accomplish and by what he does if turns out to be a T*****r.

I still support him for now but on Dec 31st all bets are off if hasn’t dropped the Hammer by then.

More later...
This Topic shows the lunacy of the scumbag immigrant invasion and the effects of their ignorance the founders warned us against...
>>>> br br You know I totally agree w... (show quote)


Most of the founders owned s***es and had no compunction in raping them and then enslaving their offspring too. Shouldn't people you claim to be moral behave that way too?

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Jun 6, 2018 07:55:36   #
itsmyjob
 
I get a real kick out of the ignorance I see here. Divide and conquer. Silence is deadly.

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Jun 6, 2018 08:14:05   #
Kevyn
 
badbob85037 wrote:
I have been calling for revolution since Clinton burned down that church in Waco, murdered Foster and Brown, having his jack booted thugs k*****g innocent from sea to shining sea. K*****g with hollow core ammunition they first outlawed from us then refined with razor sharp steel. When a government thug can get away with shooting a woman in the head under orders while holding her baby that is a government that needs put down. Especially when the one giving those orders is promoted.
As I have asked the other folks who post this nonsense, what are you waiting for? Ruby Ridge and Waco were over a quarter century ago. It’s time for you to nut up or shut up. Guys like you are blowhards not revolutionaries, If the little voice in your head tells you it’s time you won’t be taking down an evil government you will become just another unhinged right wing nutter who shoots up a local playground, church or shopping mall.

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Jun 6, 2018 10:35:01   #
PeterS
 
Kevyn wrote:
As I have asked the other folks who post this nonsense, what are you waiting for? Ruby Ridge and Waco were over a quarter century ago. It’s time for you to nut up or shut up. Guys like you are blowhards not revolutionaries, If the little voice in your head tells you it’s time you won’t be taking down an evil government you will become just another unhinged right wing nutter who shoots up a local playground, church or shopping mall.


Yup!!!

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Jun 6, 2018 11:30:58   #
kemmer
 
Kevyn wrote:
As I have asked the other folks who post this nonsense, what are you waiting for? Ruby Ridge and Waco were over a quarter century ago. It’s time for you to nut up or shut up. Guys like you are blowhards not revolutionaries, If the little voice in your head tells you it’s time you won’t be taking down an evil government you will become just another unhinged right wing nutter who shoots up a local playground, church or shopping mall.

These people who were so outraged and freaked out over Obama's presidency--a black man in the WH, fer crissakes!--weren't waving their guns and threatening a violent c**p then. What's changed? They've been given the go-ahead by Trump's r****m and immigrant baiting?

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Jun 6, 2018 12:13:07   #
cold iron Loc: White House
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War?
By: Robert Reich
Contributor
Robert B. Reich is Chancellor's Professor of Public Policy at the University of California at Berkeley and Senior Fellow at the Blum Center for Developing Economies. He served as Secretary of Labor in the…

Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Rightwing social media call for war. As i**********n spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”

Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the e******n. He charges v***r f***d, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of i*****l i*******ts to v**e against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and r**ts ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.

If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.’), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.

The United States is premised on an agreement about how to deal with our disagreements. It’s called the Constitution. We trust our system of government enough that we abide by its outcomes even though we may disagree with them. Only once in our history – in 1861 – did enough of us distrust the system so much we succumbed to civil war.

But what happens if a president claims our system is no longer trustworthy?

Last week Trump accused the “deep state” of embedding a spy in his campaign for political purposes. “Spygate” soon unraveled after Republican House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy dismissed it, but t***h has never silenced Trump for long.

Trump’s immediate goal is to discredit Robert Mueller’s investigation. But his strategy appears to go beyond that. In tweets and on Fox News, Trump’s overall mission is repeatedly described as a “war on the deep state.”

In his 2013 novel “A Delicate T***h,” John le Carré describes the “deep state” as a moneyed élite — “non-governmental insiders from banking, industry, and commerce” who rule in secret.

America already may be close to that sort of deep state. As Princeton professor Martin Gilens and Professor Benjamin Page of Northwestern University found after analyzing 1,799 policy issues that came before Congress, “the preferences of the average American appear to have only a miniscule, near-zero, statistically non-significant impact upon public policy.”

Instead, Gilens and Page concluded, lawmakers respond to the policy demands of wealthy individuals and moneyed business interests.

Gilens’ and Page’s data come from the period 1981 to 2002, before the Supreme Court opened the floodgates to big money in its “Citizens United” decision. It’s likely to be far worse now.

So when Trump says the political system is “r****d,” he’s not far off the mark. Bernie Sanders said the same thing.

A Monmouth Poll released in March found that a bipartisan majority of Americans already believes that an unelected “deep state” is manipulating national policy.

But here’s the crucial distinction. Trump’s “deep state” isn’t the moneyed interests. It’s a supposed cabal of government workers, intelligence personnel, researchers, experts, scientists, professors, and journalists – the people who make, advise about, analyze, or report on public policy.

In the real world, they’re supposed to be t***h-tellers. In Trump’s conspiracy fantasy they’re out to get him – in cahoots with former members of the Obama administration, liberals, and Democrats.

Trump has never behaved as if he thought he was president of all Americans, anyway. He’s acted as if he’s only the president of the 63 million who v**ed for him – certainly not the 66 million who v**ed for Hillary or anyone who supported Obama.

Nor has he shown any interest in unifying the nation, or speaking to the nation as a whole. Instead, he periodically throws red meat to his overwhelmingly white, rural, and older base.

And he has repeatedly shown he couldn’t care less about the Constitution.

So what happens if Trump is about to be removed – by impeachment or even an e******n?

In early April, Sean Hannity predicted that if impeachment began, “there’s going to be two sides of this that are fighting and dividing this country at a level we’ve never seen” – “those that stand for t***h and those that literally buy into the corrupt deep state attacks against a duly elected president.”

Last summer, Trump consigliore Roger Stone warned of “an i**********n like you’ve never seen,” and claimed any politician who v**ed to oust Trump “would be endangering their own life.”

A second civil war? Probably not. But the way Trump and his defenders are behaving, it’s not absurd to imagine serious social unrest. That’s how low he’s taken us.
Is America Barreling Toward a Second Civil War? br... (show quote)


"That’s how low he’s taken us?" Can you elaborate on that? FOOL!

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Jun 6, 2018 12:13:46   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
Question: why are republicans winning in California when i*****l i*******ts are suppose to be v****g by the millions to insure that doesn't happen? Why is it you cons want to start a civil war over something that doesn't exist?


>>>>

All I can say to answer you Peter is you are wrong and often misled as the Founders explained many times.

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Jun 6, 2018 12:15:53   #
Sicilianthing
 
PeterS wrote:
Most of the founders owned s***es and had no compunction in raping them and then enslaving their offspring too. Shouldn't people you claim to be moral behave that way too?


>>>>

Yes I’m aware of the horrors and the lunacy of the past about some of them and s***ery... what would you like me to do today about that ?

I’m talking about the invasion by immigrants and muslims mostly who v**e in a way destructive to our Pillars and this turns into a cancer eroding our society.

Can you please stay on Topic

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Jun 6, 2018 12:17:00   #
Sicilianthing
 
itsmyjob wrote:
I get a real kick out of the ignorance I see here. Divide and conquer. Silence is deadly.


>>>>

Can you please CLICK on ‘Quote Reply’ under the poster’s Box so we know who you’re replying to ?

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