P**********l Partons
Jun 4, 2018 22:36:45 #
I would like to post an apology to everyone and all on OPP. Last night I posted that a President could not pardon themselves. I was wrong. Today I went back to the Constitution, re-read Article II, Section II, Clause I. The President...shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment. This is a broad stroke. As stated, it would imply that a President could pardon themselves except for treason. That being said, I believe that any President that would chose to result to this course of action would be in betrayal of the Oath of Office. Once again my apologies. I should have researched before I posted.
Jun 4, 2018 23:18:45 #
PLT Sarge wrote:
I would like to post an apology to everyone and al... (show quote)
It's a big person that admits a mistake.
BTW..... Where did you get the idea that POTUS cannot pardon himself for treason?
Jun 4, 2018 23:55:02 #
Treason. Good question. I will have to go back and find this in the Constitution. Common sense would lead us to believe that when a President takes the oath of office. Swears on a Bible to uphold the Constitution, then commits treason against that oath. Why would that President have the power to grant pardon on his actions ? If this was Constitutional, then a President could do what ever they wanted, knowing that they could always pardon themselves. Is this not like being a KING ? quote=Super Dave]It's a big person that admits a mistake.
BTW..... Where did you get the idea that POTUS cannot pardon himself for treason?[/quote]
BTW..... Where did you get the idea that POTUS cannot pardon himself for treason?[/quote]
Jun 5, 2018 00:08:01 #
Iamdjchrys
Loc: Decatur, Texas
PLT Sarge wrote:
I would like to post an apology to everyone and al... (show quote)
I still don't think a President can pardon himself.
Jun 5, 2018 00:14:15 #
Jun 5, 2018 06:34:02 #
PLT Sarge wrote:
The Constitution would have been 1000s of pages long if they closed every loophole and drilled down every power of the 3 branches.Treason. Good question. I will have to go back and... (show quote)
The Constitution clearly defines POTUS's pardon power. The fact that they listed this one exception (impeachment) and scope (crimes against America) and no others shows that they thoughtfully and specifically limited pardon power and there is no other limitations.
Also note this is a plenary power. Congress and SCOTUS do not have authority to review, or need to consent.
The pardon power is designed to be broad as an emergency safeguard.
Clinton pardoned terrorists. Obama pardoned drug dealers. The pardon power is easy to abuse, and nobody can do anything about it.
The Constitution was written so that any literate citizen could understand it. Brilliant idea.
Jun 5, 2018 11:58:50 #
OUR POTUS,Donald Trump,hasnt done anything to be impeached for,except in the minds of the demonrats and libs.
Jun 5, 2018 12:11:48 #
donald41
Loc: puyallup Wa
Rog wrote:
You need help!
Being that you have studied the constitution. Do you think Barrack is a natrual born citizen of the USA?
Jun 6, 2018 00:43:10 #
PLT Sarge wrote:
I would like to post an apology to everyone and al... (show quote)
No apology needed. Some around here have never opened their mouths without spreading stupid. I shouldn't have to make a list.
Jun 7, 2018 19:54:53 #
PLT Sarge wrote:
I would like to post an apology to everyone and al... (show quote)
You have nothing to apologize for,Presidents[ especially Trump] can"PARTON" themselves if they want ,they just can't PARDON themselves.
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