rumitoid

It is easy to be hard. Remember that. Making any attempt to be merciful and compassionate takes a lot of effort. The rewards are meager or nothing--except for doing the right. Judge the immigrants attempts to flee their native countries out of fear and hunger as illegal, the easy path, and the d********g policies of the Trump administration--not Democrats and that is clear--are cheered. Ow! Trump-backers feel they are getting what they deserved for trying to find sanctuary for their family in this once "city on a hill." That Trump is making America the fortress on a hill and dispelling the hopes of millions that our Country represents liberty and hope for the world, will take away our exceptionalism and turn their hearts from our nation. Please read this short piece below.

Separating immigrant parents from their children — families who are fleeing from their countries out of fear and hunger — identifies the current administration with the very worst of human impulses.

As a nation, it is prudent to secure our borders. But ripping children from the arms of their parents is not only morally indefensible but also has long-term consequences for the children.

As scientists who study child development, we are ashamed to be associated with this policy. 

As early as the 1930s, every piece of research conducted in the field of parent-child attachment is against this violent practice. Scientists knew then the horrendous toll of separation. Dr. Rene Spitz followed toddlers separated from their mothers. The deep depression that resulted was associated with serious deterioration in children’s physical, social and language sk**ls if they lacked other loving, engaged adults to care for them.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/03/migrant-children-suffering-talker/651580002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Actually no, im not ashamed simply because we dont know if these are their real parents or maybe criminal i*****l a***ns are trying to pretend to be their parents so they can get in here...Plus children are being separated temporarily so we can figure out if these are real parents or not....And if we find out they real then they can be together...Its for protection of the kids just as much as for our protection.Besides separation of kids started way before President Trump....I believe obama was doing the same thing....Were you ashamed of him too???

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Children are often removed from parents who are doing something illegal or while detained awaiting court decisions. In fact, a child can be removed from a situation if the environment is unhealthy. I would say that a child being held in a cell with their parent(s) is far more detrimental to their well being than being placed in a home with relatives while the situation of their illegal parent is sorted out. I do not recall you being upset with this in the past... if you recall, under obama more than 1500 kids were relocated (and then lost in the system) away from their parents. I do not recall seeing your angry post.... I am sure you did so point me to your outraged post in 2014 about separating illegal invading parents from their kids.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

Nope !

We ain't ashamed or bothered.

But you blue gummed goobers should be.

It's yall's fault that they're here anyway.

rumitoid

Wow. Too funny. What a stretch to protect cruelty by the president.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Started by cruelty of YOUR President!!!!!...Are you ashamed by your Obama too???

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Cruelty is what the parents inflicted on the children. Uprooting them from family and friends and then d**gging them hundreds of miles through bad lands knowing they did not have the visa to enter the US. Knowing that at the end of the road they would have to face immigration courts and their children would be taken away to be placed in suitable environments and may never be reunited with them again.

Now that is cruel!

rumitoid

Okay, Obama did it so that makes it even. Nugent said the "c" word so Samantha can? If anyone was on trial for a crime, a good defense is not saying so-and-so also did it, yet that is what we get from the right all the time. Trump's actions aren't bad because Obama did the same or worse. Bring up almost anything about Trump's questionable behavior and the Right responds, "Yeah, well look at Hillary." That is not an answer. If the subject is Hillary, Trump, or Obama, just stick to the topic. Wh**ever possible wrong these people have done is not mitigated or excused because one or the other did the same. Oh, and I do not recall "your angry post" over what Marie Antoinette said to the hungry Paris mob. Apples and oranges. Tired of this constant deflection.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Then i refer to my 1st response to your stupid topic,which is how do we know that these people are children' real parents and not somebody who wants to come to the States and do harm to our country.?????...

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Something simple even for you to understand!!!!..IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE SEPARATED FROM YOUR KIDS DON BRING THEM HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!!!

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

Immigration policy on children predates obama to the time of Clinton. The rules were revised to ensure children were not traumatized more than they were by crossing the miles and miles, sometimes without proper food or water. The instability of not having a place to live, sleeping on the ground for weeks without end... That prompted the US to take another look at how these children were managed when they reached the US. What is best for the kids..... keep them in jail cells with parents or farm them out to sponsors or family members already in the US. I say these kids deserve better than being in cages.

I am sticking to the topic, I simply asked to see your post from 2014 decrying the separation of children (as neither you or I were on OPP in the 1980s). Or is it that you only see a "problem" now.....

Gatsby

When citizen parents are incarcerated for crimes, their children become wards of the state, subject to the same type of system.

Why should i*****l a***n "human smugglers" be more deserving of compassion than our own citizens?

rumitoid

The problem is now and the solution what we do now. I h**ed Julius Caesar for his barbarian border policies. What does that do? If I did decry the separation of children in 2014, has that disgrace changed? Is it somehow different? Trump is doing it NOW! You are still trying to deflect away from the issue and somehow mitigate what Trump is doing by the possible fact Obama did the same. Who cares? Say you are an illegal child separated from your parents today. Does it help somehow to know other kids suffered the same thing 4 years ago? What on earth is your point?

Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone

No, President Trump is not separating the children, it is i*********n l*w enacted well before he was elected.
I must also point out that any child who's parents are detained are placed with relatives or foster care.
Having said that, what are your recommendations? If a person has a child then perhaps exempt them from laws? Exempt from being arrested for crimes they committed? Perhaps place the child in a jail cell too? The law is unbiased, it does not matter if you are a US citizen or one of the invaders...if you are incarcerated awaiting trial, your child or children are placed with someone who will be responsible for their well being until your legal matters are resolved. To me, those children should be left in Mexico, they have a different system for dealing with i******s. Maybe this information should be given to "migrants." https://www.loc.gov/law/help/undocumented-migrants/mexico.php

rumitoid

Your first sentence is not true, so we can stop right there. But I will continue. My recommendations? FEMA process camps, processing immigrants possibly fleeing for political reasons or those displaced economically in their country of origin, keeping the family together. Trial should be the very last option. This is freaking America! Land of Immigrants! These people flee to our country why? For Republicans, to be a broader base for Democrats, so they h**e these people, see them as a threat. But they come here for hope and liberty. Most suffer daily in unimaginable ways. My Irish history of my family coming to these shores is the same story--but that was back when America was America. From what I know, we sneaked in through Canada. Starving in our own country, awaiting death with no help from the Brits, we did what we had to do to survive. Being Catholic was not helpful, being White was. We could integrate. And we spoke the language. Somewhat, lol. I do not know for a fact but had my family been discovered and they tried to take away the children, it would have been messy.