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Jun 4, 2018 12:16:10   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
the question:
Are any of you aware of this requirement for an enhanced ID, to be required by 2020, to have standing , in any de facto corporate governance interaction???

The answer: I called the VA they said Oregon DMV. Oregon DMV can't get it done so they offer talk and an extension. Some states offer Enhanced ID for travel into Canada.

Can you say Gestapo " Show me your papers." Phuque You

Dear Ron:

It is the "Real ID Act of 2005" which is Title B within of Public Law 109-13 (Act Making Emergency Supplemental


Appropriations for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami relief, for the fiscal year ending September 20, 2005, and for other purposes) passed on May, 2005.

The link to the law is https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-119/pdf/STATUTE-119-Pg231.pdf#page=72

Sincerely,


Jane Fitzgerald
Archivist
Archives 1 Reference Section
Research Services - Washington, DC

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Jun 4, 2018 13:39:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
ron vrooman wrote:
the question:
Are any of you aware of this requirement for an enhanced ID, to be required by 2020, to have standing , in any de facto corporate governance interaction???

The answer: I called the VA they said Oregon DMV. Oregon DMV can't get it done so they offer talk and an extension. Some states offer Enhanced ID for travel into Canada.

Can you say Gestapo " Show me your papers." Phuque You

Dear Ron:

It is the "Real ID Act of 2005" which is Title B within of Public Law 109-13 (Act Making Emergency Supplemental


Appropriations for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami relief, for the fiscal year ending September 20, 2005, and for other purposes) passed on May, 2005.

The link to the law is https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-119/pdf/STATUTE-119-Pg231.pdf#page=72

Sincerely,


Jane Fitzgerald
Archivist
Archives 1 Reference Section
Research Services - Washington, DC
the question: br Are any of you aware of this requ... (show quote)


Very informative. We need to fight this. Someone please show me the way.

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Jun 4, 2018 13:45:46   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Start by seeing if your state DMV is ready to comply.
You already comprehend the Congress demand for your notice.
This was 2005 and we are finding out now. WTF

Carol Kelly wrote:
Very informative. We need to fight this. Someone please show me the way.

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Jun 4, 2018 14:32:01   #
Kevyn
 
ron vrooman wrote:
the question:
Are any of you aware of this requirement for an enhanced ID, to be required by 2020, to have standing , in any de facto corporate governance interaction???

The answer: I called the VA they said Oregon DMV. Oregon DMV can't get it done so they offer talk and an extension. Some states offer Enhanced ID for travel into Canada.

Can you say Gestapo " Show me your papers." Phuque You

Dear Ron:

It is the "Real ID Act of 2005" which is Title B within of Public Law 109-13 (Act Making Emergency Supplemental


Appropriations for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami relief, for the fiscal year ending September 20, 2005, and for other purposes) passed on May, 2005.

The link to the law is https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-119/pdf/STATUTE-119-Pg231.pdf#page=72

Sincerely,


Jane Fitzgerald
Archivist
Archives 1 Reference Section
Research Services - Washington, DC
the question: br Are any of you aware of this requ... (show quote)
I am a bit perplexed, you linked to a defense appropriation act and seem to take offense at the real ID act which to my knowledge is the requirement for specific identification to board aircraft and for travel by car or on foot for US citizens returning from Canada or Mexico. Specifically and without the archaic legal language, what is your complaint?

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Jun 4, 2018 14:39:35   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
I asked Jane at National Archives to define citizen and national.

Pronounce Gestapo your ignorance is only exceeded by your stupidity.
Who makes the claim must prove the claim if it is denied. I deny. Now prove.
his paragraph.
(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS.—A State shall
require, before issuing a driver’s license or identification
card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the
person—
(i) is a citizen or national of the United States;

Kevyn wrote:
I am a bit perplexed, you linked to a defense appropriation act and seem to take offense at the real ID act which to my knowledge is the requirement for specific identification to board aircraft and for travel by car or on foot for US citizens returning from Canada or Mexico. Specifically and without the archaic legal language, what is your complaint?

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Jun 4, 2018 14:51:30   #
PeterS
 
ron vrooman wrote:
the question:
Are any of you aware of this requirement for an enhanced ID, to be required by 2020, to have standing , in any de facto corporate governance interaction???

The answer: I called the VA they said Oregon DMV. Oregon DMV can't get it done so they offer talk and an extension. Some states offer Enhanced ID for travel into Canada.

Can you say Gestapo " Show me your papers." Phuque You

Dear Ron:

It is the "Real ID Act of 2005" which is Title B within of Public Law 109-13 (Act Making Emergency Supplemental


Appropriations for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami relief, for the fiscal year ending September 20, 2005, and for other purposes) passed on May, 2005.

The link to the law is https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-119/pdf/STATUTE-119-Pg231.pdf#page=72

Sincerely,


Jane Fitzgerald
Archivist
Archives 1 Reference Section
Research Services - Washington, DC
the question: br Are any of you aware of this requ... (show quote)

I thought you guys wanted enhanced ID's to weed out all the i*****l a***ns v****g for democrats? Are you saying now you don't?

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Jun 4, 2018 15:10:21   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Are you new or just too thick to comprehend? What does boarding an aircraft or entering a corporate governance building have to do with v****g???

Show me your papers. Show me probable cause or a warrant. Gestapo.


PeterS wrote:
I thought you guys wanted enhanced ID's to weed out all the i*****l a***ns v****g for democrats? Are you saying now you don't?

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Jun 4, 2018 16:09:51   #
Kevyn
 
ron vrooman wrote:
I asked Jane at National Archives to define citizen and national.

Pronounce Gestapo your ignorance is only exceeded by your stupidity.
Who makes the claim must prove the claim if it is denied. I deny. Now prove.
his paragraph.
(B) EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL STATUS.—A State shall
require, before issuing a driver’s license or identification
card to a person, valid documentary evidence that the
person—
(i) is a citizen or national of the United States;
It is pretty obvious, a citizen is a person born in the US or abroad to US parents or a naturalized immigrant, while a national of the US is a landed immigrant with temporary or permanent resident status. The law just says you must present a birth certificate green card or other documentation to obtain a State issued ID. In the instance states do not comply a passport or federal ID is required to cross into the US or board commercial aircraft.

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Jun 4, 2018 16:47:03   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Yeah Ignorance and Stupidity. You do not know and you spread dis/mis information.

a clue SCOTUS declared US citizens have 14th amendment privileges while American Citizens aka state nationals have unalienable rights guaranteed by our Constitution in Our Republic.

want to run off some more???

Kevyn wrote:
It is pretty obvious, a citizen is a person born in the US or abroad to US parents or a naturalized immigrant, while a national of the US is a landed immigrant with temporary or permanent resident status. The law just says you must present a birth certificate green card or other documentation to obtain a State issued ID. In the instance states do not comply a passport or federal ID is required to cross into the US or board commercial aircraft.

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Jun 4, 2018 16:51:13   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
ron vrooman wrote:
the question:
Are any of you aware of this requirement for an enhanced ID, to be required by 2020, to have standing , in any de facto corporate governance interaction???

The answer: I called the VA they said Oregon DMV. Oregon DMV can't get it done so they offer talk and an extension. Some states offer Enhanced ID for travel into Canada.

Can you say Gestapo " Show me your papers." Phuque You

Dear Ron:

It is the "Real ID Act of 2005" which is Title B within of Public Law 109-13 (Act Making Emergency Supplemental


Appropriations for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami relief, for the fiscal year ending September 20, 2005, and for other purposes) passed on May, 2005.

The link to the law is https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/STATUTE-119/pdf/STATUTE-119-Pg231.pdf#page=72

Sincerely,


Jane Fitzgerald
Archivist
Archives 1 Reference Section
Research Services - Washington, DC
the question: br Are any of you aware of this requ... (show quote)


India and other places have already linked their ID with the person's right to work. That's close to a third of the world's population with plenty of others well on the path.

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Jun 4, 2018 17:06:25   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Thank you. However, I am America the only Constitutional Republic under full attack by the US inc.

BigMike wrote:
India and other places have already linked their ID with the person's right to work. That's close to a third of the world's population with plenty of others well on the path.

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Jun 5, 2018 08:42:26   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
ron vrooman wrote:
Thank you. However, I am America the only Constitutional Republic under full attack by the US inc.


Ron, this is all Biblical Scripture. The mark of the beast will allow you to buy & sell but it won’t matter anymore for those that have accepted it. The devil is real and using those in govt. against us.
The real ID is the next step to acceptance of the mark. This was written almost 2000 years past and we as a World are just about to accept it.

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Jun 5, 2018 09:12:46   #
ron vrooman Loc: Now OR, born NV
 
Good Morning,
As you say. However, on this plane of existence, On Oregon within the United States of America, I am and those with me are bringing this corporate governance to an end. We will have remedy. I have no doubt that there is evil. I have no doubt we the people will overcome the evil. I file our claims into the only Article III court with our Constitutional Republic. USCIT NY, NY today.

Justsss wrote:
Ron, this is all Biblical Scripture. The mark of the beast will allow you to buy & sell but it won’t matter anymore for those that have accepted it. The devil is real and using those in govt. against us.
The real ID is the next step to acceptance of the mark. This was written almost 2000 years past and we as a World are just about to accept it.

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Jun 5, 2018 10:14:02   #
Kevyn
 
Justsss wrote:
Ron, this is all Biblical Scripture. The mark of the beast will allow you to buy & sell but it won’t matter anymore for those that have accepted it. The devil is real and using those in govt. against us.
The real ID is the next step to acceptance of the mark. This was written almost 2000 years past and we as a World are just about to accept it.
What special kind of tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists and nutters believe a drivers license to be some nonsensical biblical mark of the beast? Abject i***ts.

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Jun 5, 2018 10:20:18   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Kevyn wrote:
What special kind of tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists and nutters believe a drivers license to be some nonsensical biblical mark of the beast? Abject i***ts.


That’s ok kevyn, maybe you’ll remember my words when you’re standing in line for your “mark”. But most likely not, but you’ll enjoy all of eternity remembering it.

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