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Republicans V**e to Repeal Obamacare After Milestone
Apr 5, 2014 01:26:18   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in the heck do businesses have to account for supplying health insurance to workers? In all the other first world countries, businesses don't have to figure this into the balance sheet, giving them a competitive edge over American Corporations.

Then politicians complain that manufacturers open shops overseas but over there, the government supplies the health care -- not the employers. That is stock holder value because as insurance costs go up here, the medical costs for employer sponsored insurance overseas stays zilch.

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Apr 5, 2014 01:49:13   #
Brian Devon
 
[quote=UncleJesse]I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in the heck do businesses have to account for supplying health insurance to workers? In all the other first world countries, businesses don't have to figure this into the balance sheet, giving them a competitive edge over American Corporations.







You are right. Neither private employers, nor private insurance companies should be in the health care business. We should have single payer insurance, from the government, like all the other advanced industrialized democracies. This ACA hybrid of government/private insurers is just another invitation for more health care profiteering and corruption.

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Apr 5, 2014 02:10:35   #
UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA
 
While it's a good point, the grass is always greener...

Going to a single-payer system would basically destroy the $800B industry which is not necessarily good in a capitalist economic system.

If you are doing business in a sector where the labor supply does not require you to offer a health insurance benefit, it is naturally a good fit for a public option. This could be done with incentives to business to waive the employer mandate if they give labor extra bucks to pay into a public option. Although, it would be practically impossible to draw that line and define which sectors are eligible.

[quote=Brian Devon]
UncleJesse wrote:
I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in the heck do businesses have to account for supplying health insurance to workers? In all the other first world countries, businesses don't have to figure this into the balance sheet, giving them a competitive edge over American Corporations.







You are right. Neither private employers, nor private insurance companies should be in the health care business. We should have single payer insurance, from the government, like all the other advanced industrialized democracies. This ACA hybrid of government/private insurers is just another invitation for more health care profiteering and corruption.
I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in t... (show quote)

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Apr 5, 2014 04:21:57   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
[quote=Brian Devon]
UncleJesse wrote:
I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in the heck do businesses have to account for supplying health insurance to workers? In all the other first world countries, businesses don't have to figure this into the balance sheet, giving them a competitive edge over American Corporations.



You are right. Neither private employers, nor private insurance companies should be in the health care business. We should have single payer insurance, from the government, like all the other advanced industrialized democracies. This ACA hybrid of government/private insurers is just another invitation for more health care profiteering and corruption.
I think there is a point this guy makes: Why in t... (show quote)




Yeah, but it was the only way to get it past the mofiosos in the Congress. If they can't see a way to make money off it, they ain't doing it. I wonder why more and more Doctors are getting into politics? To fix health care? Ha!

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Apr 5, 2014 07:34:23   #
Retired669
 
UncleJesse wrote:
While it's a good point, the grass is always greener...

Going to a single-payer system would basically destroy the $800B industry which is not necessarily good in a capitalist economic system.

If you are doing business in a sector where the labor supply does not require you to offer a health insurance benefit, it is naturally a good fit for a public option. This could be done with incentives to business to waive the employer mandate if they give labor extra bucks to pay into a public option. Although, it would be practically impossible to draw that line and define which sectors are eligible.
While it's a good point, the grass is always green... (show quote)


Getting the insurance companies out of the health care system is fine with me and the sooner we do it the better off everyone will be. They provide nothing in the way of health care but they still decide what they will pay for and will not pay for while maintaining the profit margin they want. Cutting the insurance companies out of the picture will save consumers billions of dollars. After they are gone then work on the hospitals, drug companies and doctors for all the over charging they all do.

If we had a true capitalist economic system none of these corporations would spend billions trying to get the government to make laws that only benefit themselves.

I believe most of us will agree our government is the most corrupt one on this planet along with being the best one money can buy. :thumbup:

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Apr 5, 2014 08:30:56   #
Midgard
 
You seem to have overlooked the fact that lobbyists for the insurance companies pushed for the ACA to pillage the wealth of the American economy. The ACA has proven an inefective reform for healthcare while the insurance industry is reaping the spoils. 1*6 of the total economy in the hands of the corrupt ultra rich at the expense of the taxpayer. Single payer reform is not the answer either. The American economy is not based in Socialism, but on free enterprise. Let the taxpayer control his destiny and bargain for affordability. Information is the tool to bring costs down for everybody. Pandering to lobbyists is the root of corruption in our government, and private industry is footing the bill as the greedy get richer. Enough already.

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