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Trump Got Punked By The Second Biggest Loser In The World, That Was Predictable
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May 25, 2018 15:05:57   #
Bruce Hass
 
woodguru wrote:
So meanwhile Kim Is negotiating with South Korea (and China) to integrate and open trade channels...

China, who could have been considered an ally up until Trump took office is far more likely to be allied with North and South Korea, Gina, and Russia.

Every president has struggled with North Korea, but they have all except for Trump managed to keep the upper hand, managed to maintain trade sanctions, managed to keep a stability with South Korea and our military installations there.

Trump is going to, from his schoolyard bully attitude, having been thwarted by the little rocket man, be "forced" to go back to his threats of attacking North Korea.

He had a negotiation on the table, it would have taken a long time to negotiate the give and takes, the new order of trade and weapons agreements. And as long as talks are happening a million people aren't threatened. As long as North Korea was opened up to trade they have no need for ICBM's that can strike the US or other nations.

At this point Trump has made his presence useless in negotiating the agenda North and South Korea have in mind with Gina (China). All he can do is pretty much insure that there will be no Nobel Peace Prize for him....

I do remember being on the side that said he hadn't even begun to be worthy of that just because he got a token release of three prisoners.
So meanwhile Kim Is negotiating with South Korea (... (show quote)

>>>>>>>>

Overwhelming evidence points to Trump's being a deal breaker not a deal maker:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/president-trump-is-a-better-dealbreaker-than-dealmaker

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May 25, 2018 19:42:29   #
Homestead
 
woodguru wrote:
So meanwhile Kim Is negotiating with South Korea (and China) to integrate and open trade channels...

China, who could have been considered an ally up until Trump took office is far more likely to be allied with North and South Korea, Gina, and Russia.

Every president has struggled with North Korea, but they have all except for Trump managed to keep the upper hand, managed to maintain trade sanctions, managed to keep a stability with South Korea and our military installations there.

Trump is going to, from his schoolyard bully attitude, having been thwarted by the little rocket man, be "forced" to go back to his threats of attacking North Korea.

He had a negotiation on the table, it would have taken a long time to negotiate the give and takes, the new order of trade and weapons agreements. And as long as talks are happening a million people aren't threatened. As long as North Korea was opened up to trade they have no need for ICBM's that can strike the US or other nations.

At this point Trump has made his presence useless in negotiating the agenda North and South Korea have in mind with Gina (China). All he can do is pretty much insure that there will be no Nobel Peace Prize for him....

I do remember being on the side that said he hadn't even begun to be worthy of that just because he got a token release of three prisoners.
So meanwhile Kim Is negotiating with South Korea (... (show quote)


If Trump got, "Punked," then why is it Kim that's offering to restart the talks, after Trump put an end to them..............................?

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May 25, 2018 23:03:07   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Homestead wrote:
If Trump got, "Punked," then why is it Kim that's offering to restart the talks, after Trump put an end to them..............................?


Woody disappeared when Kim started talking nice again.

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May 26, 2018 11:32:05   #
Nickolai
 
proud republican wrote:
None of other Presidents brought hostages home alive without paying big bucks for it....No other President made SOKO and NOKO sit down and talk to end Korean war.....No other President made NOKO to negotiate with SOKO on the SOKO'S land.....You Rats will never give this President a break!!...As far as Nobel Prize he deserves it just from what he has done so far which is waaaaay more then obama did before he got it....Im pretty sure its gonna happen before midterms.....This is his negotiation tactics thats all....
None of other Presidents brought hostages home ali... (show quote)




Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have implied that Iran released U.S. hostages in 1981 on the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated because Reagan ushered in a new foreign policy toward Iran. But several experts on the crisis told us the hostages were released that day as a final insult to President Jimmy Carter, whom the hostage-takers despised.we consulted, journalist and author Mark Bowden, said he interviewed about 12 of the hostage-takers for his 2006 book, “Guests of the Ayatollah: The First Battle in America’s War with Militant Islam.” He told us they were largely ignorant of American political figures and “had no idea who Ronald Reagan was.” Bowden believes the hostage-takers did delay the release “as a final thumb in the eye of Jimmy Carter.”Others echoed that statement, saying that it wasn’t Reagan himself, or a foreign policy he had articulated, that caused the curious timing of the release — it was the fact that someone other than Carter had been sworn in as president.


The New York Times reported on Jan. 21, 1981, that Carter had informed Reagan at 8:31 on the morning of the inauguration that the hostages would be released, and that the Americans “took off from Tehran in two Boeing 727 airplanes at 12:25 P.M., Eastern standard time, the very moment that Mr. Reagan was concluding his solemn Inaugural Address at the United States Capitol.”
The Times reported that during the ceremony Carter looked “haggard and worn after spending two largely sleepless nights trying to resolve the hostage crisis as the final chapter of his Presidency.” Reagan told congressional leaders at 2:15 p.m., the Times said, that the planes carrying the hostages had left Iranian airspace.

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May 26, 2018 11:35:39   #
Nickolai
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I suggest you never ante up in a high stakes poker game, bubba, you'd get smashed like a June bug on a freeway. With everything on the table and a winning hand, Trump called that fat little c****e's bluff.

Donald Trump has ramped up his rhetoric against North Korea by warning rival leader Kim Jong-un he "will regret it fast" if he continues his threats to US territories and allies.

Trump issued the threat directly at Kim, who is also known for his bellicose rhetoric, and all but drew a red line that would trigger swift US action.

"If he utters one threat in the form of an overt threat - which by the way he has been uttering for years and his family has been uttering for years - or he does anything with respect to Guam or any place else that's an American territory or an American ally, he will truly regret it and he will regret it fast. Trump declared the US military is "locked and loaded" if the isolated rogue nation acts "unwisely".
I suggest you never ante up in a high stakes poker... (show quote)






Conservatives really love John Wayne type of rhetoric such as locked and loaded don't they ????

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May 26, 2018 11:49:55   #
Nickolai
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Pissy? They're absolutely gleeful thinking trump might fail with N Korea.










We failed when we allowed a sexual abusing w***e s*********t N**i Authoritarian, loving, Putin corn holler be elected. It will take generations to deodorize the White House and scrub the s**t stains out. That revolting development is further evidence of American decline, the fact that 63 million Americans could chose to v**e for such an immoral, mendacious, exaggerating, vindictive, self centered pig is telling.

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May 26, 2018 13:22:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
We failed when we allowed a sexual abusing w***e s*********t N**i Authoritarian, loving, Putin corn holler be elected. It will take generations to deodorize the White House and scrub the s**t stains out. That revolting development is further evidence of American decline, the fact that 63 million Americans could chose to v**e for such an immoral, mendacious, exaggerating, vindictive, self centered pig is telling.


Hey dope, on the Hollywood tapes he talks about "what women will let a guy do" if they're famous. Look at the latest list of women abusers and tell me where they come from. LOL!

Even this i***t who gave Stormy Daniels the keys to the city turns out to be a sex abuser! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 26, 2018 15:27:14   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Nickolai wrote:
Conservatives really love John Wayne type of rhetoric such as locked and loaded don't they ????

Yeah. The way lefties like

For the Children
Sensible gun control
Reproductive freedom
Invest in our people
Safety net

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May 26, 2018 16:48:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Hey dope, on the Hollywood tapes he talks about "what women will let a guy do" if they're famous. Look at the latest list of women abusers and tell me where they come from. LOL!

Even this i***t who gave Stormy Daniels the keys to the city turns out to be a sex abuser! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.latimes.com/local/westside/la-me-0223-weho-settlement-20160223-story.html

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May 26, 2018 17:48:21   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Nickolai wrote:
Conservatives really love John Wayne type of rhetoric such as locked and loaded don't they ????


Yep.

We sure do Goober.

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May 26, 2018 19:47:14   #
Homestead
 
Nickolai wrote:
We failed when we allowed a sexual abusing w***e s*********t N**i Authoritarian, loving, Putin corn holler be elected. It will take generations to deodorize the White House and scrub the s**t stains out. That revolting development is further evidence of American decline, the fact that 63 million Americans could chose to v**e for such an immoral, mendacious, exaggerating, vindictive, self centered pig is telling.


Hey!....................I don't like Obama either, but, you don't have to be so nasty about it.

The rest of his life spent in jail is good enough.

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May 27, 2018 09:11:33   #
Kazudy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Woody disappeared when Kim started talking nice again.


No surprise there.

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May 27, 2018 09:15:37   #
Kazudy
 
Nickolai wrote:
Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have implied that Iran released U.S. hostages in 1981 on the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated because Reagan ushered in a new foreign policy toward Iran. But several experts on the crisis told us the hostages were released that day as a final insult to President Jimmy Carter, whom the hostage-takers despised.we consulted, journalist and author Mark Bowden, said he interviewed about 12 of the hostage-takers for his 2006 book, “Guests of the Ayatollah: The First Battle in America’s War with Militant Islam.” He told us they were largely ignorant of American political figures and “had no idea who Ronald Reagan was.” Bowden believes the hostage-takers did delay the release “as a final thumb in the eye of Jimmy Carter.”Others echoed that statement, saying that it wasn’t Reagan himself, or a foreign policy he had articulated, that caused the curious timing of the release — it was the fact that someone other than Carter had been sworn in as president.


The New York Times reported on Jan. 21, 1981, that Carter had informed Reagan at 8:31 on the morning of the inauguration that the hostages would be released, and that the Americans “took off from Tehran in two Boeing 727 airplanes at 12:25 P.M., Eastern standard time, the very moment that Mr. Reagan was concluding his solemn Inaugural Address at the United States Capitol.”
The Times reported that during the ceremony Carter looked “haggard and worn after spending two largely sleepless nights trying to resolve the hostage crisis as the final chapter of his Presidency.” Reagan told congressional leaders at 2:15 p.m., the Times said, that the planes carrying the hostages had left Iranian airspace.
Sens. Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz have implied that I... (show quote)


Well if you interviewed"journalists"they sure as hell were not going to say anything negative about Carter OR positive about Reagan. You can take that to the bank.

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May 27, 2018 09:24:23   #
Kazudy
 
Nickolai wrote:
Conservatives really love John Wayne type of rhetoric such as locked and loaded don't they ????


Because it works, as oppose to Obozo, drawing a line in the sand, then running lika a scared little girl when it was crossed. So which one of those two has it right? Inquiring minds want to know.

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May 27, 2018 18:05:27   #
1ProudAmerican
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Pissy? They're absolutely gleeful thinking trump might fail with N Korea.


Even if nothing else happens, I don't consider getting 3 Americans back ALIVE a "FAIL"

...and frosty, who cares if one was taken in 2017....we didn't kiss ass and return terrorists to get them back!!!!

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