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I dont understand what is the big deal about 2020 US Census' Citizenship question???
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May 25, 2018 19:54:55   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
PeterS wrote:
So the article that says: "Trump Panel Finds No V***r F***d" meant that several thousand were found? If several thousand were found then you certainly have a link that will corroborate that correct! So lets see it else move on...

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-10/trump-commision-on-e******n-integrity-found-no-evidence-of-v**er-fraud


Could it be that states controlled by Democrats will not let their records be viewed. I wonder why that is? The US News article is not quite right. Their have been some individual's convicted of illegally v****g.

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May 25, 2018 21:15:19   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
permafrost wrote:
1--I do not even see a connection with the two parts of your sentence...

2--The wall would be a total waste of money and very ineffective..

3--when did you get the idea that I am not in favor of deporting i******s???

4--DACA is a specific group of people. Those who qualify are as American as you and I. They know no other country.. they should be dealt with by congress. Which was the intent of the Obama EO or proclamation..

The laws regarding immigration are a confusing mess. Primarily because the wealthy end of the republican party wants a lot of immigrants to fill the labor past its needs. that keep labor costs down in the model they use..

How can business expand if it dose not have a larger then needed labor supply??
1--I do not even see a connection with the two par... (show quote)


permi: Your answers avoid and skate the issues (you love dancing around the facts!).......This proves you are very disconnected and have false political statistics on the majority of the subjects involved! Go back to your handlers for a more plausible approach! Better yet just stay with you handlers and watch this new Conservative movement continue for another 12 years!

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May 25, 2018 21:57:26   #
bestpal38 Loc: Cedar City, Utah
 
PeterS wrote:
How can you hold the midterms if between 12 and 22 millions i******s are at the v****g booth? Stuart Mill once said: I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. In reading your posts I am reminded of that...

Stupid persons is a pretty stupid comment, so I don't think someone who can't speak properly, should be calling anyone stupid

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May 25, 2018 23:45:07   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
permafrost wrote:
I have addressed a position on a******n several times..

I am not in favor of a******ns except in specific needed cases..

I am however very much a champion of freedom of choice..

Like it or not the woman who is pregnant has the right to decide what is done to her body..

I will never agree that someone else, (anyone else) can tell another person what to do concerning a completely personal situation..

No dipstick has the remotest right to tell a woman to follow what he says when he is not even a subject of that situation and will never be affected one way or the other..

It is all about the woman and her rights..
I have addressed a position on a******n several ti... (show quote)
Thats like being against wife-beating but allowing a husband his "choice".

There are 2 humans involved. A child is not a mother's property.

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May 26, 2018 03:14:10   #
Ricktloml
 
PeterS wrote:
Because the census has nothing to do with citizenship and is a count of those who reside within our boarders. The only reason you cons want to change it is because you want to strike fear into i*****l i*******ts and nothing more. I h**e to tell you but whether you count i******s or not they will still be here and still doing all the things you h**e them for. Oh, and if we get i******s to v**e for us how is it Trump is president, and if you listen to him, by a landslide. The proof that i******s don't v**e is that Trump is president and you people hold the majority in the house and senate...
Because the census has nothing to do with citizens... (show quote)


Actually the census has quite a bit to do with citizenship. It measures the number of representatives for congressional districts based on the number of citizens. And Congress represents citizens of the U.S.A.

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May 26, 2018 06:30:44   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Actually the census has quite a bit to do with citizenship. It measures the number of representatives for congressional districts based on the number of citizens. And Congress represents citizens of the U.S.A.

And with it E*******l v**es for POTUS.

That's the point.

Democrats are having a hard time winning with Americans. They do much better with foreigners.

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May 26, 2018 08:00:35   #
Morgan
 
proud republican wrote:
And we will continue to hold it after midterms!!!!Well,it is you Rats that keep saying that K**lery won poopular v**e,werent you???...I******s gave her poopular v**es....With that citizenship question hopefully none of you Rats will c***t in the future!!!.......And BTW if i******s havent done anything wrong,then they shouldnt fear anything,should they???



I******s don't v**e, more propaganda that the clueless delusional's simply eat up.

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May 26, 2018 08:13:30   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
I******s don't v**e, more propaganda that the clueless delusional's simply eat up.
This thread is about the Democrat Party wanting to use the the census to t***sfer Congressional Representation, E*******l College v**es and Welfare from American citizens to i*****l a***ns.

You're ok with all that are you?

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May 26, 2018 08:33:18   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
This thread is about the Democrat Party wanting to use the the census to t***sfer Congressional Representation, E*******l College v**es and Welfare from American citizens to i*****l a***ns.

You're ok with all that are you?



I was commenting to the poster alleging Democrats win by illegal v**es, which is absurd.

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May 26, 2018 08:55:34   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
Morgan wrote:
I was commenting to the poster alleging Democrats win by illegal v**es, which is absurd.


I doubt many e******ns were decided that way, if so only lower local e******ns with the only really significant one being the possible illegal-v**e turned e******n of Al Franken.

But tell me your opinion on E*******l College v**es, House of Representative seats, and federal welfare being taken away from American citizens and given to i*****l a***ns.

Are you 'Afor it or 'Agin it?

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May 26, 2018 09:04:36   #
Morgan
 
old marine wrote:
WRONG the cencus calls for citizens NOT I*****L A***NS criminals are excluded from v****g by law adopted by Demon-Rat years ago.😆


God bless America and President Trump and the first lady


He is correct, according to the census bureau referring to privacy:


Your privacy concerns

We use your confidential survey answers to create statistics like those in the results below and in the full tables that contain all the data—no one is able to figure out your survey answers from the statistics we produce. The Census Bureau is legally bound to strict confidentiality requirements. Individual records are not shared with anyone, including federal agencies and law enforcement entities. By law, the Census Bureau cannot share respondents' answers with anyone—not the IRS, not the FBI, not the CIA, and not with any other government agency.

It is mandated by Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution and takes place every ten years, the U.S. Census Bureau undertakes a mammoth task: counting all of the people living in the United States and recording basic information such as age, sex, and race. The United States' founders thought these data were so important they mandated it as part of the Constitution. The data collected by the decennial census determine the number of seats each state has in the U.S. House of Representatives and is also used to distribute billions in federal funds to local communities.

http://www.google.com/search?q=when+taking+a+census+is+it+asked+if+you+are+a+citizen&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1

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May 26, 2018 09:23:41   #
Morgan
 
Super Dave wrote:
I doubt many e******ns were decided that way, if so only lower local e******ns with the only really significant one being the possible illegal-v**e turned e******n of Al Franken.

But tell me your opinion on E*******l College v**es, House of Representative seats, and federal welfare being taken away from American citizens and given to i*****l a***ns.

Are you 'Afor it or 'Agin it?


To end this tiresome (social)debate I'm for it, but an i*****l a***n isn't showing up to v**e at the cost of getting caught at the same time committing a felony, not gonna happen, propaganda pure and simple.

I'm not a party person and e*******l v**es along with gerrymandering and parties have been manipulated and corrupted and should be thrown out.

Representatives have been corrupted through money, get rid of the paying lobbyists and have them get back to representing us and not corporations.

Federal welfare to the rich hurts us more than welfare to the poor, but I'm not for any of our tax money to i******s.

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May 26, 2018 09:42:00   #
working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina
 
maryjane wrote:
Do you really think the founders, concerning the census, ever considered anyone but citizens being counted?? I think they meant a count of citizens only to determine each state's representatives in Congress. The founders would never have agreed to counting noncitizens, especially i******s, because doing so gives people not citizens of our country power in the operation of our government. This is something that no sane country would ever do, but America today does seem to care more about foreigners than it does its own people or even its own future.
Do you really think the founders, concerning the c... (show quote)



You are mistaken. The founders counted many non citizens....as 3/5 of a person. Also, they did not consider v**ers the same category as people. Women were citizens and were not allowed to v**e.

"Representatives and direct Taxes shall be
apportioned among the
several States which
may be included within this Union, according to
their respective Numbers, which shall be
determined by adding to the whole Number
of free Persons, in
cluding those bound to
Service for a Term of Years, and excluding I
ndians not taxed, three fifths of all other
Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made
within three Years after the first Meeting
of the Congress of the United States, and within
every subsequent Term of ten Years, in
such Manner as they shall by Law direct. "

Nowhere does it say citizens. It says whole number of free persons. Representatives, taxes and revenues are not decided according to citizenship. They are decided upon the basis of free people. Since we have no 'unfree' people, everyone should be counted.

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May 26, 2018 12:09:30   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
Morgan wrote:
I******s don't v**e, more propaganda that the clueless delusional's simply eat up.


morgan: If you really think that i******s don't v**e.....You are the delusional one! Consider selling when your IQ reaches 50!

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May 26, 2018 12:30:16   #
Morgan
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
morgan: If you really think that i******s don't v**e.....You are the delusional one! Consider selling when your IQ reaches 50!


You're a small person in every way you're the type that gives the right a bad reputation, someone disagrees with you and you insult, all you are is gutless coward online, all big mouthed under your avatar online. I'll ask you once, please don't reply to me in any way or form. Since all you ever do is insult me, if you ignore my request, I'll ignore you. I've had it with you.

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