fullspinzoo

Somebody explain to me the full-fledged crisis. Where are we going wrong? is a question I have asked on numerous occasions. Got nothin' back. Hillary is still not over the shell-shock that she lost and I don't know if she will ever get over it....or not until she runs again and loses. https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/hillary-clinton-democracy-crisis/index.html Somebody please explain to Miss Clinton that the mkt is Up, GDP Up, unemployment record low, ISIS almost defeated, NK in better negotiations than ever before, jobs report excellent, consumer confidence at all time high. tax cuts a real plus, economy booming, and the list goes on and it's long. Somebody please inform Hillary that these incredible accomplishments don't spell out "full-fledged crisis" unless you are delusional. Somebody else explain that to Kevie, Rumi. Lonely, and Petey. (if your name was left out and you are a liberal radical l*****t loon, please forgive me) The gang including our misconceived Hillary are all delusional. BTW, nice to see Hillary 'sporting' Russian hats. Is that collusion?

boatbob2

I'm in a crisis,and will be in a crisis,until,both Clintons,both obozos,and McCain.and the other rinos,are strung up by the neck,until dead.

zillaorange

hitlery's 1st crisis is that she thinks we live in a democracy ! If she'd realize we live in a REPUBLIC, she's be about a 10th of the way there !!!

Tug484

I saw the intercept of what she was supposed to accomplish in her 8 years.
America would be over.
She was going to turn on the welfare recipients.
Start wars.
Get rid of e*******l college and the constitution.
Disarm everyone.
Pocket billions.
Depopulate.

Lonewolf

most of your list are things trump also wants to do besides being -president forever

Tug484

NOT!!!

fullspinzoo

Not a bad idea. I'll bet America is up for it more than Trump. so far a great job. Here's a list: And remember Trump ended the religious war that Obama started against groups like "Little Sisters of the Poor". https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2017/12/30/trumps_2017_top_10_achievements_135885.html

Gatsby

It's just Hillary's "vison" for this country that is in full-fledged crisis mode.

8 more years of fundemental t***sformation, into the muslim state of Clintonland.

Especially now that she is facing two re-opened criminal investigations.

Big Kahuna

Hitlary and ovommit both had tunnel vision and were both dyslexic and saw everything good as everything bad. They suppressed and h**ed the t***h and morality and welcomed bigotry, r****m., sexism, antiAmericanism, pro Islamism, pro a******nism and murder, pro perversion, and anything that patriotic Americans stood for. We are so thankful that God saw to it to take these people and their corruption down and to expose how truly evil the demonrat party and the deep state is !!

bggamers Loc: georgia

Hey dont fret that falls in line with MRS OBAMA'S we in America have lost all HOPE since t***p w*n (personally I'm in fine shape and hope is all around me how about you)

fullspinzoo

Yeah, I'm fine, making lots of money in the market after a sluggish stretch for 8 years. The economy couldn't be better. Full-fledged crisis? I wonder what she meant by that. Could one of you Leftys help me out with that. Watch I won't get one word explaining exactly what she meant. Just like I ask all the time what Trump could be doing better. They just know how to whine, but no SUGGESTIONS. Hey, this is the first time I've been proud...nevermind.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

gee full,

I have no idea what Lady Hillary may have been talking about. But you guys often babble on about things I have never heard of.. Like reopened investigations and such. But never any reference..

Only wishes..

But I have a short list of things that I feel put our nation at least on the road to crises..

renewed trouble in the ME.. This place will forever be a pot of war and terror.. But with the events to stir the local groups into new h**e, they will in time bring more of the bombing and k*****g on a local level.

And they very much wish to add the US to accomplished targets..

with the unsettling of the status Que concerning power and treaties, the unbalance will be contest on who started things first. Bolton bombing Iran or the Saudis finishing off Yemen..

All the bribery that went to various trump family interests, some parties are feeling hurt and resent not getting a share of that pie..

NK... while this is still OK, the set up made by China and the rest of Asia, could very well be turned over by the orange stupid ass..

Domestic..... We have a white house resident trying to displace our justice departments and our news media.. two of the bed rocks for our nation.. These alone could become that crisis..

We have heads of departments who are much more interested in personal enrichment and the destruction of these very departments than they are in have successful operations by the department the are head of..

So, what puts us in crisis??? International destruction of trade agreements, defense treaties and violation of agreements we should use to demonstrate our trustworthiness..

At home, we have the end of nearly all things for the middle class and working class.. Both power and wealth moved to the very few richest group in America..

Piles of money for a few and little and only in the short term for everyone else..

Yes, we are in crisis and will be until the orange menace and his henchmen, all of them, can be replaced.. And this may be impossible..

Conservative business has run the nation from at least the 80s. They have created the off shoring, the unending drive for cheap labor, deregulation and ruinous tax exemption to those gaining the most..

Do I hold hope for the outcome?? Not a hell of a lot...

fullspinzoo

Do you understand, we have the lowest unemployment EVER for the middle and working class. B****s=lowest, Hispanic=lowest, women=lowest in 19 years, consumer confidence at a new high, stock mkt at record highs, 90 new records in 2017, job creation at a new high, the only one taking from the ME was Hillary when she was in the position to "peddle influence". Millions to Clinton Foundation from half the Arab countries in the ME. Don't actually know if that's a crime but it should be. Treasonous!!!! The Nuke Deal, yeah we got played big time. How Obama was able to pull that off without Congress' approval I will never know. Trump has gotten rid of a lot of the unnecessary red tape (useless regs) and things are going just fine. The economy is booming after 8 sluggish years where Obama was never able to really get it moving under his socialist/Marxist/c*******t agenda. Kind of like Venezuela or Cuba. So economic indicator you want to look at, Trump is doing exceptionally well and a long 'cab fare' to 'full-fledged crisis' by any means. Eight indicators very favorable. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-8-indicators-byron-wien-is-watching-for-signs-that-favorable-economic-performance-across-the-globe-is-ending-2017-11-24 People who say the stock market's record highs are just a carryover from Obama is just a crock of s**t. Obama couldn't get it going in 8 years and now all of sudden with Trump in.....pure bulls**t. OMT, the outright corruption that the Left has pulled makes, as I have said, makes Watergate look like a parking ticket. And the crimes and blatant corruption is starting to unravel. You will embarrassed by the time it is all over....or you don't have the character that I thought you had.

waltmoreno

Also open the borders to all the riff raff that Obama welcomed in with open arms.
Fund Planned Parenthood so they could continue with unrestricted a******ns.

I thank God daily that T***p w*n.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Spin,

You seem smitten by two items.. the employment level and the stock market.. So let us have a look..

employment..remember President Obama had to fight for recovery from the worse recession in 70 yrs... trump was given a recovered world wide economy and done little with it..



Investing #TrumpsAmerica

J** 6, 2018 @ 03:12 AM 48,678 The Little Black Book of Billionaire Secrets
President Trump's First Year Of Job Growth Was Below President Obama's Last Six Years


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2018/01/06/president-trumps-first-year-of-job-growth-was-below-president-obamas-last-six-years/#130ee56325ab

Chuck Jones , CONTRIBUTOR
I cover technology companies, worldwide economies and the stock market
Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own.
On Friday the Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the economy added 148,000 nonfarm jobs in December but only 139,000 when the revisions for October and November are included. A better way to understand how the job market is doing is to include the revisions and look at a multi-month average. This is especially important due to the impact of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma since September only added 38,000 jobs.

Updated BLS information now has Trump now only being behind Obama's last 4 years vs. 6.

These are the original and updated numbers.

2011: 2.091 million

2012: 2.142 million

2013: 2.302 million

2014: 2.998 millon


2015: 2.713 million

2016: 2.240 million

2017 original: 2.046 million

2017 updated: 2.188 million

Over the September to December timeframe, there were 163,000 additional jobs per month and for the year 171,000 jobs were added monthly. This compares to President Obama’s last six years where the job market averaged at least 174,000 per month and hit 250,000 in 2014. It isn’t too surprising that job growth has slowed since the unemployment rate has dropped to very low levels.

While the job number was below expectations, the Dow Industrials increased 220 points or 0.9%, the S&P 500 was up 19 points or 0.7% and the NASDAQ gained 58 or 0.8%.

President Trump’s goal is for 25 million more jobs over 10 years, and for last year 2.06 million jobs were added. Since the job market naturally grows by 1% to 2% a year the 25 million should be made without much help from policies such as tax reform. One impediment from hitting 25 million could be lower immigration especially since the unemployment rate is at 4.1% and the US’ population only provides 60,000 to 80,000 people entering the job market per month.

The unemployment rate remained 4.1%, which is the lowest since December 2000’s 3.9% when the GDP grew 4.1% during the tech bubble. The participation rate of 62.7% has been essentially flat over the past four years, which also means it will be hard to increase the number of jobs added by much more than 2 million per year.


Stock market.... record bull market under President Obama... trump promised deregulation and tax gift, which has been used to drive market up for upper management profit.. Hope you got in on this...

Do you think deregulation and tax gifts are for the people who pull a pay check?? How long is your idea of "over"? We will see a down turn. When, I have no idea.. No one seems to..

Darn, the graphs did not come thru... sorry about that.. trump not so good numbers when he is not quoting them.. The world seems to see things in a different light..

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/01/05/business/trump-first-year.html


Stock Market’s Rise, Lauded by
Trump, Lags the Gains Under Obama
By KARL RUSSELL and KEITH COLLINS JAN. 5, 2018

President Trump has routinely celebrated, and taken credit for, the stock market’s record-setting climb during his first year in office.

Optimism around the new tax code, as well as a relaxed regulatory climate, has helped drive the Standard & Poor’s 500-stock index’s 21 percent rise since Mr. Trump took office. But that performance falls short of the market’s gains during the first years of the presidencies of Barack Obama and the elder George Bush.

The stock market rose
higher in two previous terms.

+40

%

S.& P. 500-Stock Index

Obama

+33.7%

Percentage changes in the closes of the first 243 trading days of each

president’s term, compared with President Trump’s, through Friday.

+30

H.W. Bush

+22.8%

+20

Trump

+21.2%

+10

Clinton

+7.3%

0

Reagan

–8.7%

–10

W. Bush

–14.7%

–20

–30

1

Number of trading days

50

100

150

200

243

Source: Thomson Reuters
Mr. Obama took office amid the financial crisis. Stocks were in a freefall and hit bottom nearly two months after his inauguration. Equities then rebounded and finished Mr. Obama’s first year up more than 30 percent.

Mr. Trump, by contrast, became president during one of the longest sustained bull markets in history, and stocks have continued to set record highs during his tenure.

This run is a continuation of one
of the longest bull markets ever.

3,000

2,000

S.& P. 500-stock index

Scale is logarithmic to show

comparable percentage changes

1,000

800

600

Reagan

H.W. Bush

Clinton

W. Bush

Obama

Trump

400

200

1981

1989

1993

2001

2009

2017

Source: Thomson Reuters
At more than 3,200 days and counting, this nearly nine-year bull market run trails only the boom from 1987 to 2000. And the momentum suggests the market could climb further upward.

It’s unusual for any president to take credit (or blame) for stock market performance, but in Twitter posts and speeches, Mr. Trump has continually trumpeted the success of the market as a direct result of his actions.

As with any time the stock market shoots upward, the inevitable question is when it will fall, and now, what Mr. Trump will say if it does.