MrEd Loc: Georgia

By Coach Dave Daubenmire
March 20, 2014
NewsWithViews.com

Words matter.

That is a theme I often trumpet when I try to communicate. Words matter.

Stuck somewhere in my gray-matter is something that an old coach taught me years ago. It applies to more than coaching, it applies to life. It is one of the truisms that help lawyers win in court. The advice Coach Earl gave me was:

“Never assume anything. To assume means to run the risk of making an ass of u and me..ass-u-me. One of the best ways to guarantee that you will lose is to assume that the player understands what you understand.”

Or, as America's “first black President” Bill Clinton so aptly put it, it all depends on what the meaning of is, is.” No wonder they called him Slick Willie. Slick is good when you are playing ice hockey...but not so complimentary when you are talking about governing.

Bill Clinton is slimy, yet he is the most respected Democratic politician in America. Slick sells. Especially to those who ass-u-me that the words a politician uses mean the same thing to you that they do to him.

Can you say “change?” Isn't that what we were promised five years ago by the liar-in-chief?

But change to you and change to him did not look the same. Unfortunately, millions of Americans thought they were v****g for a “good”change. Obama never promised that. You just ass-u-med that you and he agreed on what “change” actually meant.

Ass-U-Me. Words matter folks. Until we come to that realization we are going to spend a lot of time looking like an ass.

I wrote this Change the Words, Change the World five years ago last month.. It is worth the read.

Unfortunately, one of the places where we have become most duped is in the area of evolution. That is one of the main arguments that the Progressives love to use to ridicule Christians into denying the t***h of the Bible.

To them, science has become the measure of all things. In fact, it has become the bully-club that the God-h**ers use to deny the existence of God. I witnessed it last month when Bill Nye The Science Guy tried to bury Ken Ham and cover him with the dirt called “scientific research.”

I learned in 8th grade science class that nothing can ever be proven true, it can only be proven false. Although true science is supposed to discover t***h, supported by facts, many of the “facts” that science teaches us are nothing more than evidence. Evidence is not proof. Evidence supports t***h. “Billions of years ago” and the fossil record are evidence, not proof.

The “evidence” that supports the existence of God is everywhere. In fact, Romans 1:20 calls it “invisible” proof. But “scientists” like Bill Nye want to present their “evidence” as proof and unfortunately, most Christians are falling for the bait and switch.

Science is defined as knowledge about or study of the natural world based on facts learned through experience and observation.

I read every day about “c*****e-c****e” deniers. How ridiculous. Of course the climate is changing. It is called weather. Does anyone really know the temperature on March 15, AD 33? They substitute data as proof.

Please understand that data is evidence. Data is not proof. Data helps support a theory. Theories can not be proven true, they can only be proven false. Evolution is a theory...in fact they call it the “Theory of Evolution.” (Here is a good example of why theories cannot be proven true.) If evolution was true would we still be calling it a theory?

By the way, you do not have to be a “scientist” to do science? Scientists merely do “science” for a living. Even a knuckle-d**gger like me can do science. I just don't get government grants to think.

Mathematics is invisible. No amount of research can prove that mathematics exist. The law of mathematics is invisible, but the laws of mathematics are immutable. If someone asked you to prove mathematical laws exist would you be able to do so? Invisible proof.

Perhaps you could prove the laws of math WORK, but can you prove the laws exist? Of course not. But the use of the laws does not prove the law exists. My good buddy Steve Klein put it this way.

“What’s really funny is I use the Laws of Math which are outside of the material world to prove that some things can not be observed by the 5 senses - they just exist and are accepted in real life.

So people DEMAND we use the 5 senses to prove God exists, the 10 Commandments exist, the conscience exists and they attempt to box us in by demanding we only use the 5 senses to prove it. The Fool, Bill Nye, explains, that if we can’t sense it, it does not exist.

Math is based on law and both math and law exist immaterially, not open to the 5 senses, and can NOT be proven or disputed.

Math is based on law, math and law exist outside of the realm of experience and the senses. Since math is based on law, law precedes, exists, before math. Law is superior to math: Math obeys laws, law does NOT obey math.

This drives the logical positivists insane . A logical positivist is a person who believes that if it’s not open to the 5 senses it does not exist. To which I merely point out, what about math and law?

Evolution is based on the insanity of the logical positivists. True scientists like Sir Isaac Newton and the mathematicians actually can UNDERSTAND this concept that God does not need to be proved – just as math and law. Just tell the atheist, the fool, I don’t need to prove God – and by the way, can you disprove Him anymore than you can disprove math and law?”

Steve is not a scientist. He makes way too much sense.

Do you see what they do to us? By using the straw man of “science” they force us to prove what they know cannot not be proven. Religion, they like to tell us, is merely a system of beliefs. Science, they claim, trumps religion because science involves proof. Except they produce no proof.

But their own laws teach that most things can never be proven. The scientific double-standard is one of the greatest weapons the “Bible-deniers” use to destroy the faith of Christians. That is one of the main tenets of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.

Make the enemy live up to his own set of rules!

The God-h**ers follow no rules, while they make us follow ours. We first need to agree on a set of rules that apply to everyone.

In the debate between Nye and Ham there were two set of rules being used. Nye was demanding that Ham prove something than can never be proven while Ham was constantly trying to present “facts” that Nye could not refute.

Ham fell into the same trap that most of us find ourselves in...trying to prove to a God-h**er that God exists when the God-h**er knows it can never be proven. God Himself told us that the evidence was “invisible”...like the laws of math and gravity...unobservable.

So here is the kicker.

The debate is not about evolution. I believe in evolution. I am not a scientist but I can look at a dog and see evolution at work. Breed a poodle with a cocker spaniel and you get a cockapoo. The result is a new breed of the same species. The cockapoo is still a canine...dog family...it is not a new species of animal.

That is micro-evolution my friends...changes within species...we all believe that. We see evidence of that all around us. Look at your own children for Pete’s sake. Christians do not deny evolution!!

But there is ZERO evidence of MACRO-evolution...changes across species...a frog becoming a bird. None. All they have are theories. Theories are not proof.

Don't miss this Christians. The debate is not about EVOLUTION...it is over ORIGINS. All of the “theories” are meaningless if they can't tell us where the dirt came from. Let's make them play by the same rules. Ken Ham could have won the debate by repeating the same question after every one of Bill Nye's diatribes.

“Pardon me Bill, but where did you say all of that matter originally came from?”

Before we argue about whether or not a rock evolved into life we need for them to explain to us where the rock came from. The battle is over origins, not evolution.

Look friends, let's not fall into their trap. Rather than wasting our time arguing with the God-h**ers about a literal six-day creation, or a worldwide flood we need to force them to tell us what happened “in the beginning.”

Hey Bill Nye! I believe in evolution...change within species...but please explain to us how nothing evolved into something...

Let's see “science” prove that one to us...

Article can be found here; http://www.newswithviews.com/Daubenmire/dave361.htm

Brian Devon

In the beginning there were no Republicans......thank God.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

:thumbup: Great post... that argument was maddening to watch live. We certainly have this problem on OPP . I doubt we will hear much from them however. We will see.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

"Left" and "Right": A little Bible study. Remember what Jesus said: 'Goats on the left, sheep on the right’ (Matthew 25:33).
Jesus told Peter that if he wanted to catch fish do it from the right side of the boat. They did and filled the boat.
John 21:6 (NIV) He said, “Throw your net on the right side of the boat and you will find some.” When they did, they were unable to haul the net in because of the large number of fish."
Origin of Left & Right... I have often wondered why it is that Conservatives are called the "right" and Liberals are called the "left”.
By chance I stumbled upon this verse in the Bible: Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV) - "The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Thus sayeth the Lord. Amen. Can't get any simpler than that.
Spelling Lesson :
The last four letters in American..........I Can
The last four letters in Republican........I Can
The last four letters in Democrats.........Rats .End of lesson. Test to follow on November 6, 2014. Remember, November 2014 is to be set aside as rodent removal month.

Brian Devon

Religion is man's attempt to communicate with the weather.

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

The real message of the theory of evolution is to remove God. Evolution is a survival of the fittest tooth and claw theory. If God is taken out of the picture, mankind will revert to animal behavior which is little by little coming to pass.

Nickolai

This article is a complete crock
First of all Atheist are not God H**ers. How dose one h**e something they don't believe exit's. There is a lot more to science than an 8th grade science class many years ago. A veritable Mt. Everest of evidence, offers proof of more and more, and scientific progress has been moving an ever quickening pace especially in the field of Genetics. Scientific theory is accepted science. Scientific theory starts as hypothesis, only through observation, experimentation, and substantial corroborating evidence does hypothesis become Theory which his accepted Science.

Science cannot and dose not attempt to prove that God doesn't exist only that given the preponderance of evidence it is highly unlikely that whoever or what ever is responsible for the existence of the Universe could possibly know of our existence let alone be listening to our prayers, guiding destiny and preparing a mansion in the sky for us. The preponderance of Scientific evidence indicates that Religions. All religions are a man made contrivance. Invented thousands of years ago by human beings who were completely ignorant as to how the natural world worked, and thought they were living in a supernatural world and what they were witnessing no man had the power to create so it had to be a god that dun it. What other explanation was there. Only a supernatural demon could create something out of nothing.

We will never probably know how life began on Earth but we know that organic and inorganic molecules, water and all of the basic elements for life is present in the vast reaches of the Universe and that the Universe is a time machine the further out we see into the Universe the further back in time. We are now able to see when the first stars were lighting up and the first galaxy's were forming 13 and a half billion years ago. And there is lot's of proof for instance that Whales dolphins sea lions and other sea going mammals were land mammals with four legs but returned to the sea a lost their back legs and front legs became flippers.

While creathionist complain that there aren't any t***sitional fosdsils they are mistaken there a great number of them and more and more are being found as an army of Palentologist's are constantly digging in the earths crust for clues to it's history. When we look at the sides of the grand canyon we are looking at 2 billion years of the 4.6 billion year history of the earth just like a layer cake

Viral

Oh good, an origins debate.

Since your opinion piece mentioned Bill Nye and Ken Ham, let's touch base there. The debate wasn't about the true origins of everything, it was whether Ken Ham's creationist model was a viable scientific theory.

A viable scientific theory allows you to make predictions about future events and follows what we observe in the world. For example, if I v******te myself against a v***s, I know my i****e s****m will mount a response and learn to defend me against that v***s in the future. Part of Mr. Ham's model includes the global flood. We would expect to see evidence of creatures moving through the geological record to avoid death if these sediments were deposited by a global flood, we don't see this. We only find certain species in certain layers, they don't cross.

Bill Nye challenged anyone to give one example of an animal "swimming up" into a different geological layer to fundamentally change everything. Thus far the challenge has not been met.

Scientific theories usually evolve as we encounter instances where our model, while accurate to the observation, is not a true representation of the world. For example the geocentric model fit our observation of the sunrise and sunset, but was not accurate to how things really worked.


As far as where did matter come from, nobody knows for sure yet. We could start at the Big Bang, but then where did that come from? Nobody knows for sure yet. One could make the case that that's where God started the Universe, but at the point of the unexplained, any postulation is just as good as another.

Heck, when I was little I used to believe that thunder was the angels bowling. Cute, I know.

ginger

As I've said before...Go outside, sit down and shut up.

Brian Devon

Ginger, is everyone in your family as articulate as you???

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

I think she has spoken very clearly also. :thumbup: :thumbup:

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

We are simply a strange form of nothing.

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/nstv/2011/07/how-the-universe-appeared-from-nothing.html

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Maybe just. Maybe, then they will hear the voice of God. (But I doubt that's why the comment was made.

Vacaman

What is in a day, or year, or a trillion years, but an assumed amount of time. I believe In evolution much as you do, it reality it is creation. A day to God could have been a Trillion years. 90 days could have been a year to Moses instead of a season.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

After watching that video.... good luck with that one. :XD: