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Apr 4, 2014 06:47:52   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
archie bunker wrote:
SCORE!!!!


Water will probably become more precious than gold. There's a lot of it, but most of it's undrinkable and what IS drinkable - isn't always where it's needed. For ANYTHING to have value, someone else needs/wants it. Oil had NO value when it was first discovered, the need had to be created first, then the value followed. Kerosene and naptha were the first "needs" created.

Copper and silver were actually the first metals used as an exchange for "stuff". Lords couldn't put cattle and grain in their treasuries, so an alternative had to be established. When disasters struck, the metals could be used to purchase food from elsewhere and if were not, the lords were usually the next to die, since you can't eat metal. When you're starving to death, you want food and if your "wealth" can't buy it, you still want food. When there is not enough food, no amount of wealth can buy it, so you'll just have to eat your gold and silver.

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Apr 4, 2014 08:41:24   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Ignore list???


archie bunker wrote:
SCORE!!!!

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Apr 4, 2014 18:52:54   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
bmac32 wrote:
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Yep.

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Apr 5, 2014 19:26:34   #
Alicia Loc: NYC
 
B****sheep wrote:
Long along? How do you do that? Yes, gold has a lot of uses TODAY. But the question is why was it revered back in the stone age when it had no use at all? Any ideas or comments on that? I'm really curious about it and I didn't pose the question just to catch silly crap from some hostile sniper. I think it's really odd that we seem to have such a built in attraction to yellow metal.

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I would venture to say that at that time, gold was used purely for ornamentation.

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Apr 8, 2014 10:27:50   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Gold is a "Pure" metal in it's natural form. When shined, it has the most beautiful brilliance of all metals.
In ancient times, due to it's soft nature, it was molded over other metals like brass, or specific woods, due to it's beauty. In ancient religions it was used due to it's "Purity" and coveted by other religions that did not have it.
The ancient Hebrews used Gold to cover the outside of acacia wood for the Ark of the Covenant, as Gold is Pure.
Today, it is used to back our paper monetary system due to it's rare Purity, giving it it's wealth.

B****sheep wrote:
Here's one for you anthropologts and wanna-be's and armchair detectives:

As far back in our history that we can find, gold has been the single most precious metal to humanity. In the very first written words we find reference to gold as the Metal of the Gods. Gold was revered way back in Stone Age times.

The problem I have with this is that gold was also the single most useless metal in stone age cultures outside of lead, which is equally useful as a fishing weight, although a small rock performed pretty much as well.

Gold is too soft to make knives or projectile points and too heavy to use as personal decoration unless you pounded it really thin, and then it was too fragile for that rough life. Gold was useless. Copper is far more useful and copper was prized, but it was never lusted after, not like gold. Not even silver, which is a very useful and durable metal compared to gold.

So. Why does it seem to be virtually instinctual in humans to lust for gold? Gold did eventually become used for trade but only because everyone universally revered it. Why is this?

An odd fact you might factor in, is that gold is extremely rare in the Universe. Only planets that have formed out of the gasses left over from the explosion of a supernova star, one that has t***smuted the elements in its core all the way down the periodic chart to gold, have gold.
Here's one for you anthropologts and wanna-be's an... (show quote)

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Apr 8, 2014 10:49:35   #
Blacksheep
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Gold is a "Pure" metal in it's natural form. When shined, it has the most beautiful brilliance of all metals.
In ancient times, due to it's soft nature, it was molded over other metals like brass, or specific woods, due to it's beauty. In ancient religions it was used due to it's "Purity" and coveted by other religions that did not have it.
The ancient Hebrews used Gold to cover the outside of acacia wood for the Ark of the Covenant, as Gold is Pure.
Today, it is used to back our paper monetary system due to it's rare Purity, giving it it's wealth.
Gold is a "Pure" metal in it's natural f... (show quote)


Yeah but. Check around on Google, gold was valued in stone age times when it had no practical use. At all. Why is that? Gold is HEAVY and SOFT. It made lousy bracelets and armbands. You couldn't make any useful tool with it. Yet gold was valued long before it was used as money. Why?

And no. Gold hasn't backed our paper money for many years now.

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Apr 8, 2014 12:35:55   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
B****sheep wrote:
Yeah but. Check around on Google, gold was valued in stone age times when it had no practical use. At all. Why is that? Gold is HEAVY and SOFT. It made lousy bracelets and armbands. You couldn't make any useful tool with it. Yet gold was valued long before it was used as money. Why?



Rhomins response;
Again, because of it's exquisite shine, and beauty. It melted easily and molded easily for jewelry, trinkets, and painted on the edgings and decorations of pottery, utensils, and dishwhare.

Sorry to resort to this B****sheep as I know your feelings on the issue, but in the first few Chapters of Genesis, God speaks of Gold, with God stating 'it was good." Genesis, chapter 2, verses 11 and 12. The God that the Hebrews worshipped, as well as their writings of it, was circulated through all the lands. Many of the Kings of different lands shared in the Old Testament's scenes with the Hebrews, God's miracles, and their writings. This has been proven on ancient parchments and clay tablets found in archeology over the many years, whether those kings were pagan or not.
God said there was Gold, and that the Gold was good (Genesis 2:11-12)

Since the desire to have Gold has lasted the circuits of time like it has, I can tell you that it began with God. Maybe to design a test on mankind as to whether they would choose to serve Gold, or God. Life is all about the 'choices' we make.
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And no. Gold hasn't backed our paper money for many years now.
Yeah but. Check around on Google, gold was valued ... (show quote)

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Apr 8, 2014 12:42:00   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
sorry b****sheep, our comments kind of purged together somehow (??)

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Apr 8, 2014 13:29:39   #
Blacksheep
 
Rhomins response;
Again, because of it's exquisite shine, and beauty. It melted easily and molded easily for jewelry, trinkets, and painted on the edgings and decorations of pottery, utensils, and dishwhare.
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You don't listen.

One last time. Get it or don't because I can explain to you but I can't make you understand. That one's on you:

BACK IN THE STONE AGE BEFORE WE HUMANS EVEN MADE JEWELRY, LONG BEFORE WE WERE CAPABLE OF PAINTING GOLD ONTO THINGS, LONG BEFORE WE MADE DISHWARE, BACK WHEN WE WERE STILL EATING WITH OUR FINGERS, gold was prized. When we had no use for it at all, it was prized. When life centered around survival against huge predators like the Saber-Toothed Tiger which is extinct today, and the Cave Lion and Cave Bear and Dire Wolf - are you slowly, fuzzily getting a vague picture now? - back then, gold, utterly useless gold, hard to find gold that had no purpose at all, was prized and my question is,

WHY? You don't know, I don't know, I just think it's an anomaly and I'm wondering if anyone does know. But no more god blah blah, hey?

I do have a wild, totally improbable theory but like I say, very improbable. It is true that the very earliest written references to gold refer to it as the metal of the gods, even before the Old Testament one-god doctrine. The Bible also refers to visits from people in circular ships. Gold is rare in the Universe and the Earth seems to have, or have had, a fairly plentiful supply. Could it possibly be that those "angels" were actually here putting us to work getting it out of the ground for them, and that's why we have an ingrained lust for it? That's nutty but does anyone have a better idea?

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Apr 8, 2014 22:16:24   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
http://www.humantouchofchemistry.com/the-history-of-gold-mining.htm



B****sheep wrote:
Rhomins response;
Again, because of it's exquisite shine, and beauty. It melted easily and molded easily for jewelry, trinkets, and painted on the edgings and decorations of pottery, utensils, and dishwhare.
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You don't listen.

One last time. Get it or don't because I can explain to you but I can't make you understand. That one's on you:

BACK IN THE STONE AGE BEFORE WE HUMANS EVEN MADE JEWELRY, LONG BEFORE WE WERE CAPABLE OF PAINTING GOLD ONTO THINGS, LONG BEFORE WE MADE DISHWARE, BACK WHEN WE WERE STILL EATING WITH OUR FINGERS, gold was prized. When we had no use for it at all, it was prized. When life centered around survival against huge predators like the Saber-Toothed Tiger which is extinct today, and the Cave Lion and Cave Bear and Dire Wolf - are you slowly, fuzzily getting a vague picture now? - back then, gold, utterly useless gold, hard to find gold that had no purpose at all, was prized and my question is,

WHY? You don't know, I don't know, I just think it's an anomaly and I'm wondering if anyone does know. But no more god blah blah, hey?

I do have a wild, totally improbable theory but like I say, very improbable. It is true that the very earliest written references to gold refer to it as the metal of the gods, even before the Old Testament one-god doctrine. The Bible also refers to visits from people in circular ships. Gold is rare in the Universe and the Earth seems to have, or have had, a fairly plentiful supply. Could it possibly be that those "angels" were actually here putting us to work getting it out of the ground for them, and that's why we have an ingrained lust for it? That's nutty but does anyone have a better idea?
Rhomins response; br Again, because of it's exquis... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2014 00:09:48   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Sorry B****sheep, but how would the cave-dwelling troglydites have any way of leaving any info about their existence, especially items they cherished? All they left behind were cave paintings and jewelry items that fell of their dead bodies in decomposure. There was no history writings left behind by the ancient cave dwellers, just very simple cave paintings? The Myans and Incas cherished Jade, and was their wealth. Don't know how to answer, so just will leave it alone.
Again, sorry, but your question does not make any sense to me.
bmac32 wrote:
http://www.humantouchofchemistry.com/the-history-of-gold-mining.htm

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Apr 12, 2014 13:11:07   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
archie bunker wrote:
The answer is bacause it is pretty. I guess. Don't know for sure.
Your odd fact is questionable. Has it been proven? If so, how?


I think you are right, archie. Sometimes the simplest answer is the right answer. Ancients liked gold because it was pretty and rare. When polished, there is no other metal as beautiful. Jewelery didn't need to be hard, so it was perfect for that. And since it often appeared in nugget form and could be smelted into small nuggets at modest temperature, it was useful for bartering. B****sheep is looking for some profound answer, while the obvious answers stare him in the face.

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Apr 12, 2014 13:14:00   #
RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC
 
B****sheep wrote:
I do have a wild, totally improbable theory but like I say, very improbable. It is true that the very earliest written references to gold refer to it as the metal of the gods, even before the Old Testament one-god doctrine. The Bible also refers to visits from people in circular ships. Gold is rare in the Universe and the Earth seems to have, or have had, a fairly plentiful supply. Could it possibly be that those "angels" were actually here putting us to work getting it out of the ground for them, and that's why we have an ingrained lust for it? That's nutty but does anyone have a better idea?
I do have a wild, totally improbable theory but li... (show quote)


You're right: that is a wild and improbable theory.

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