The Rule On Indicting A Sitting President, And It's Purely Up To Trump's Pick Rosenstein
May 18, 2018 09:38:21 #
I'm sure the right is going to be hardcore up in arms about the unconstitutionality of indicting a sitting president, mainly because it's the right that has been going on about how the constitution says a sitting president cannot be indicted.
Apparently clarity was put to that issue on the heels of past scenarios such as Nixon and Clinton faced, it comes under special circumstances that will be up to Rosenstein, and it's being looked at for the lies that are coming to light that clearly violate public trust statutes.
We live in interesting times.
This president thing is not going well for Trump at all, is it? He is not "in charge" of the DOJ, they will do their jobs and that includes if Trump has broken the law. The right wants the swamp cleaned out, and it starts at the top.
Apparently clarity was put to that issue on the heels of past scenarios such as Nixon and Clinton faced, it comes under special circumstances that will be up to Rosenstein, and it's being looked at for the lies that are coming to light that clearly violate public trust statutes.
We live in interesting times.
This president thing is not going well for Trump at all, is it? He is not "in charge" of the DOJ, they will do their jobs and that includes if Trump has broken the law. The right wants the swamp cleaned out, and it starts at the top.
May 18, 2018 09:40:21 #
That's incredibly stupid. Rosenstien works for Trump.
There is no 4th Branch of Government.
There is no 4th Branch of Government.
May 18, 2018 11:01:17 #
May 18, 2018 11:16:25 #
woodguru wrote:
I'm sure the right is going to be hardcore up in a... (show quote)
Woody, I do believe that you have been smoking something and you must have gotten hold of some really bad stuff. You say the President thing has not gone well, huh. Well, in my humble opinion you have been watching too much CNN and MSNBC. The "President thing" is going swimmingly for Trump, with the exception that the left is trying their damnedest to sabotage his every move. The aforementioned cable "news" networks will simply not report anything that hints in the least of Trump successes. Maybe you should browse some of the others such as the Drudge Report. It probably will come as a surprise to you but Mueller and his cadre of l*****ts have not come up with a single important thing that redounds negatively to Trump. Sounds to me like you are whistling past the cemetery. Very amusing.
May 18, 2018 11:23:36 #
Super Dave wrote:
That's incredibly stupid. Rosenstien works for Trump.
There is no 4th Branch of Government.
There is no 4th Branch of Government.
Rosenstein just needs to play his cards close, if he is a man of honor and Mueller presents him with evidence Trump committed a felony he will indict him. He just needs to clam up and placate the Pumpkinfuhrer until he drops the hammer, otherwise Trump will fire him to stay out of prison.
May 18, 2018 11:31:32 #
Kevyn wrote:
Your seething partisan hatred and hypocricy don't overrule the Constitution and rule of law. Rosenstein just needs to play his cards close, if he is a man of honor and Mueller presents him with evidence Trump committed a felony he will indict him. He just needs to clam up and placate the Pumpkinfuhrer until he drops the hammer, otherwise Trump will fire him to stay out of prison.
America has 3 branches of government, and POTUS is in charge of the only branch that can bring an indictment.
Obama and Clinton were never indicted with clear evidence of obvious legal violations, so there's no chance Trump will be indicted for MAGA, which is what really bothers you most.
It's amazing that you through suck effort almost every day just to be a loser.
May 18, 2018 11:38:10 #
woodguru wrote:
I'm sure the right is going to be hardcore up in a... (show quote)
A President can never be "in charge" of the DoJ because of the risk of the DoJ and FBI becoming "weaponized" for political purposes. That's exactly what happened under Obama with the likes of Obama, himself, Holder, Lynch, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Rice, etc being the operatives and that is why we are in this mess. It is vital that the DoJ and FBI be non-partisan and objective or we will spiral down into being a banana republic. As I have stated from the beginning, we have experienced an attempted "extra-judicial c**p d'état" precisely because the DoJ and FBI lost their impartiality and betrayed the nation's trust. This time, we have been lucky but that may not be the case the next time around. If President Trump and the Republicans had not defeated Clinton and the Democrats in November, 2016 we would never have been aware of this c**p and Clinton and the Democrats would have been successful. Just think about that for a while and you will realize what is at stake. That is why the perpetrators must be prosecuted to the greatest extent allowed by the law.
May 18, 2018 11:43:51 #
mactheknife wrote:
A President can never be "in charge" of ... (show quote)
POTUS is the executive. He is in charge of the entire Executive Branch.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
May 18, 2018 11:51:35 #
Super Dave wrote:
Exactly, and Trump is as guilty as sin, the person in need of firing and prosecuting in the executive branch for corruption is your illustrious Pumpkinfuhrer himself.POTUS is the executive. He is in charge of the entire Executive Branch.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
May 18, 2018 11:53:51 #
Super Dave wrote:
POTUS is the executive. He is in charge of the entire Executive Branch.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
That I agree with, but the POTUS can not and should not exercise control of the DoJ or FBI in terms of their day-to-day activities. The risk of weaponization is too great. That is why President Trump has, properly, not ordered Sessions to prosecute Clinton for her crimes. That call must come from Sessions and Rosenstein.
May 18, 2018 11:59:19 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
Super Dave wrote:
POTUS is the executive. He is in charge of the entire Executive Branch.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
POTUS is empowered and charged with firing everyone in the Executive Branch that needs to be fired.
There is no cure for corruption, except to prosecute those guilty.
May 18, 2018 12:02:46 #
Kevyn wrote:
Exactly, and Trump is as guilty as sin, the person in need of firing and prosecuting in the executive branch for corruption is your illustrious Pumpkinfuhrer himself.
Nonsense, Kevyn, show me the evidence that President Trump is guilty of anything except defeating Clinton and your side of the aisle. Mueller, with an unlimited budget and a zillion bull-dog lawyers hasn't been able to do that so, please, enlighten us with your infinite knowledge and wisdom. In other words, "put up or shut up" or "pee or get off the pot". We are waiting with bated breath.
May 18, 2018 12:04:19 #
Bad Bob
Loc: Virginia
mactheknife wrote:
Nonsense, Kevyn, show me the evidence that President Trump is guilty of anything except defeating Clinton and your side of the aisle. Mueller, with an unlimited budget and a zillion bull-dog lawyers hasn't been able to do that so, please, enlighten us with your infinite knowledge and wisdom. In other words, "put up or shut up" or "pee or get off the pot". We are waiting with bated breath.
May 18, 2018 12:53:03 #
woodguru wrote:
I'm sure the right is going to be hardcore up in a... (show quote)
DOJ: A Sitting Presidents Amemability to Indictment and Criminal Prosecution
On two separate occasions, the DOJ Office of Legal Counsel determined that The indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would unconstitutionally undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions.
Neither the AG or any of his deputies have the authority or power to write, rewrite, alter, or amend established DOJ policies. They are duty bound to follow those policies. In this case, the limits of the investigation were very specific, yet Deputy AG Rosenstein and his hit man, Mueller, have far exceeded the limits and scope of the investigation into possible collusion. This spectacle is not a right-wing or left-wing, not a republican or democrat issue, it is a Constitutional and rule of law issue, both of which transcend party politics.
May 18, 2018 12:55:23 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Well said, Blade Runner.
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