archie bunker Loc: Texas

I don't think so.
This isn't from what would be considered a right wing site either. I've seen many of you lefties use it as gospel.
Test drive this one, will ya?

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2018/05/15/are-electric-cars-worse-for-the-environment-000660

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Electric cars have 2 1/2 times the carbon footprint of a combustion engine car, all of it in the manufacture of the car and the electricity it uses. There is a viable alternative available right now, without the expense of buying an electric vehicle - natural gas and propane.

Combustion engines run on NG and propane last three times longer, get much better mileage and are better for the environment. The problem is finding one. Several years ago I researched converting an old truck to run on NG. I could buy a conversion kit for $300, but a permit to fuel it with NG would cost - $5000. Since about 2005, US automakers designed engines that could not be converted to NG/propane, without replacing every sensor and the command computer, driving the cost from $300 to $4500, and still have to buy an expensive permit just to fuel it.

Why would automakers want people to have engines that lasted for 400,000 miles? Beats me.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Natural gas requires a special high pressure fuel tank, and currently technology to refill a natural gas fuel tank takes about 20-30 minutes.
The other issue would be the hundreds of billions of dollars to build an infrastructure to accommodate demands.
We currently have approximately over a thousand year supply of natural gas without having to drill another hole.
The oil companies could easily t***sition profits to natural gas, so it's speculative why they have not.

Remember a decade or so hydrogen cars were being experimental and the benifits of having a home based hydrogen maker pulling fuel from the air, separating the hydrogen with a one time cost of the hydrogen maker. I don't think they were able to get beyond the high explosiveness, or dangers of t***sferring the hydrogen or in the event of an accident.

slowranch

I have a CNG truck,and have ran it ong CNG for almost 5 years when i first bought it gas was over 4$ a gal and cng .78 cents. The original cost of tank and installation was $10,000 rebates state and federal came to close to 5,000 as of now gas is 2.70 and CNG is 1.75 most is tax for roads and some demorats pocket. I have never paid permit or license fee to use CNG, so I don't know what these guys are talking about. In the last 5 years, the infrastructure for CNG stations has tripled and you can go cross-country prety easily using the CNG stations web site. It does not take me 30 minutes to fill my 24 gal tank and my wife has no trouble using the fill process

archie bunker Loc: Texas

There is a NG refill pump at the corner of HWY 15, and U.S. 183 in Woodward, Oklahoma at the Hutch's truck stop. It ain't far from Arkansas. I'm sure the short drive for fuel wouldn't be much of a burden for you.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

Natural gas CNG ( vrs propane) are apples and oranges.

Natural gas fuel tanks have pressure of 3000-3600 lbs per Sq inch.

Home filling stations are overnight, but I stand corrected since you stated your experience over the last 5 years. Filling has advanced from 20-25 min to 3-4 min. Guess I'm a decade plus behind.

You stated going cross country was fine using a filling station map. So that to has advanced. Not yet able to handle millions of vehicles, but advancing.
Thanks for the update