We all know it and here's a little proof.
Date: May 11, 2018
Source: Society for the Study of Addiction
Summary: A new review has compiled the best, most up-to-date source of information on alcohol, tobacco, and illicit drug use and the burden of death and disease. It shows that in 2015 alcohol and tobacco use between them cost the human population more than a quarter of a billion disability-adjusted life years, with illicit drugs costing a further tens of millions...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180511081729.htm
Well, Mike, if God will only allow, and mankind can manage to wipe out all developed civilization built since Adam, with one all-encompassing, devastating nuclear war, those two threats will be completely obliterated, now won't they?
Unless the drugs and alcohol are forced upon you (anyone), it is a choice.
What are your next most pressing worries?
"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
(Matthew 15:11)
BigMike wrote:
We all know it and here's a little proof.
Date: May 11, 2018
Source: Society for the Study of Addiction
Summary: A new review has compiled the best, most up-to-date source of information on alcohol, tobacco, and illicit drug use and the burden of death and disease. It shows that in 2015 alcohol and tobacco use between them cost the human population more than a quarter of a billion disability-adjusted life years, with illicit drugs costing a further tens of millions...
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Zemirah wrote:
Well, Mike, if God will only allow, and mankind can manage to wipe out all developed civilization built since Adam, with one all-encompassing, devastating nuclear war, those two threats will be completely obliterated, now won't they?
Unless the drugs and alcohol are forced upon you (anyone), it is a choice.
What are your next most pressing worries?
"It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man."
(Matthew 15:11)
Well, Mike, if God will only allow, and mankind ca... (
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FYI. Do with it what you will. For me it helps my perspective.
I do wonder, though, why alcohol is still socially acceptable considering the damage it does. Far more than firearms. I wonder why do-gooder libs don't take it on.
All the "do-gooder libs" with whom I've ever associated had a bloody Mary with celery in the morning, a gin and tonic with lunch, imported wine with dinner, and brandy or bourbon after dinner.
What is your next question?
BigMike wrote:
FYI. Do with it what you will. For me it helps my perspective.
I do wonder, though, why alcohol is still socially acceptable considering the damage it does. Far more than firearms. I wonder why do-gooder libs don't take it on.
Zemirah wrote:
All the "do-gooder libs" with whom I've ever associated had a bloody Mary with celery in the morning, a gin and tonic with lunch, imported wine with dinner, and brandy or bourbon after dinner.
What is your next question?
Wow, it's been forever since I had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Must be getting old!
I haven't had one in years either, Iamdjchrys, I was remembering a by-gone era.
They don't mix with my daily prescriptions - none of which are in any way, mind altering.
Iamdjchrys wrote:
Wow, it's been forever since I had a Bloody Mary for breakfast. Must be getting old!
Zemirah wrote:
All the "do-gooder libs" with whom I've ever associated had a bloody Mary with celery in the morning, a gin and tonic with lunch, imported wine with dinner, and brandy or bourbon after dinner.
What is your next question?
You seem a bit touchy about this subject. Why is that?
Zemirah wrote:
Alcohol don't mix well with my daily prescriptions - none of which are in any way, mind altering.
I used to love Jack Daniels but its been close to sixty years since i stopped drinking. I had a choice, whiskey or my young wife. Thank God my young wife won.
God bless Tina, I will join you soon.
God bless America and President Trump
Touchy? Care to define that?
Be warned, IF you hadn't asked, I would spare you my unpopular opinion.
I consider defining drunkenness, even chronic drunkenness, or overindulgence in anything, as though it is outside one's own control, as ridiculous psycho-babel.
I find it impossible to identify "alcoholism," or any other "ism," as a disease, Mike, - It is excusing bad behavior by labeling that individual a "victim."
A disease is caused by a v***s or bacteria, not by something one voluntarily consumes (or imbibes) into one's own body.
If I had ever been addicted to anything, perhaps, it would be a believable concept (to say nothing of being a ready excuse).
If you don't want to drink, don't. If you do drink, don't whine about it.
That is equally true of any other "controlled substance."
Thank you for asking.
I will now retreat to my kitchen, and have a tall iced coffee spritzer...
BigMike wrote:
You seem a bit touchy about this subject. Why is that?
BigMike wrote:
FYI. Do with it what you will. For me it helps my perspective.
I do wonder, though, why alcohol is still socially acceptable considering the damage it does. Far more than firearms. I wonder why do-gooder libs don't take it on.
Perhaps because not all abuse it, are able to stop whenever they wish, or because every politician drinks too and they aren’t about to stop...
For me it is keeping my right of freedom and choice sacred to and from government that is already too involved in our private life..
BigMike wrote:
We all know it and here's a little proof.
Date: May 11, 2018
Source: Society for the Study of Addiction
Summary: A new review has compiled the best, most up-to-date source of information on alcohol, tobacco, and illicit drug use and the burden of death and disease. It shows that in 2015 alcohol and tobacco use between them cost the human population more than a quarter of a billion disability-adjusted life years, with illicit drugs costing a further tens of millions...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180511081729.htmWe all know it and here's a little proof. br br D... (
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Ironic that Jeff Sessions wants to revive the war on drugs and enforce draconian marijuana laws that will lock up people for using a weed known to have positive benefits, while ignoring the death and disease brought on by the highly addictive (and legal) tobacco and alcohol.
How much longer must we tolerate such stinking hypocracy and pernicious encroachments on our personal freedoms?
eden wrote:
Ironic that Jeff Sessions wants to revive the war on drugs and enforce draconian marijuana laws that will lock up people for using a weed known to have positive benefits, while ignoring the death and disease brought on by the highly addictive (and legal) tobacco and alcohol.
How much longer must we tolerate such stinking hypocracy and pernicious encroachments on our personal freedoms?
eden, law enforcement can only enforce laws on the books, not what should be on the books. Tobacco and alcohol are somewhat restricted but not against the law at this time.
Your question "how much longer must we tolorate such hyprocracy and pernicious encroachment on our personal freedoms?
Is vague in meaning.
I personally do not drink alcohol because it is a poison I do agree that it should be restricted in some areas and under aged people. But it is a person's choice to drink
it or not drink it.
The same with marijuana and tobacco there are restrictions to its use but in the end it use is a person's choice.
It is not against the law or any restrictions on a person that sticks a loaded gun in their ear and pulls the trigger that is a person's choice.
God bless America and President Trump
BigMike, I agree, especially about tobacco. If the federal and state governments were serious about the war on drugs, wouldn't tobacco and booze be the most logical place to start? I guess in the last analysis, it's all about the big bucks. We tried to outlaw alcohol once before and that was a real failure. I think that tobacco is different. Most smokers I know would like to quit. If its cultivation if outlawed, it would bring the supply way down and price way up. This would cause millions of smokers to quit.
BigMike wrote:
We all know it and here's a little proof.
Date: May 11, 2018
Source: Society for the Study of Addiction
Summary: A new review has compiled the best, most up-to-date source of information on alcohol, tobacco, and illicit drug use and the burden of death and disease. It shows that in 2015 alcohol and tobacco use between them cost the human population more than a quarter of a billion disability-adjusted life years, with illicit drugs costing a further tens of millions...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/05/180511081729.htmWe all know it and here's a little proof. br br D... (
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