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May 15, 2018 19:59:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”

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May 15, 2018 20:19:01   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
slatten49 wrote:
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”
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“will never definitively be answered." Why

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May 15, 2018 20:49:00   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Bad Bob wrote:
“will never definitively be answered." Why

You would have to address Erik Jensen as to his reasons for why/why not.

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May 15, 2018 20:51:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
slatten49 wrote:
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”
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May 15, 2018 20:52:50   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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May 15, 2018 21:08:35   #
Sicilianthing
 
Bad Bob wrote:
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May 15, 2018 21:23:05   #
Sicilianthing
 
Bad Bob wrote:
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May 15, 2018 23:14:31   #
Radiance3
 
slatten49 wrote:
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of... (show quote)

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Did the democrats and Trump h**ers forget that president Trump does not receive his salary as president of the United States? In addition, he relinquished his business empire. Which are now totally managed and under the control of his sons Eric and Donald Trump.

While your favorite Obama was paid $500k per year, expended the taxpayers money for lavish vacations all over the world. His most monarch like vacation was on 2010 when he spent $2 billion dollars for 10 days to India and Indonesia, along with
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-438258

President Trump does not have vacation abroad except on official visit in Europe, China, South Korea, and the Philippines. All of these trips were official business.
When the president goes to Florida he does not pay taxpayers' money because he uses his own Mora Lago, along with all the foreign dignitaries he host there. When he goes to NJ he uses his own Golf Course, does not spend any taxpayers' money.

Unlike Obama, spending millions of dollars to Hawaii, rent a 10,000 sq ft hotel or mansion for millions of dollars, for his family while he went golfing, all paid by our tax money.

Obama's dog caregiver alone is paid $104,000 annually, plus lucrative benefits.
Michelle has 27 personal assistants, while Melania had only 4. All other First Ladies had 1, 2, or 3 personal assistants. Except Mrs Mamie Eisenhower who had one personal assistant, which she paid out of their own money, and not taxpayers.

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May 16, 2018 03:05:20   #
woodguru
 
You have so much wrong that it would take a sentence by sentence correction. He is charging the government in a major way for Mar A Lago, rooms for secret service, they are even charged ludicrous money for the rental of golf carts. He meets with people who paid for memberships, and they pay full pop plus for rooms and the meals they eat and the wine they drink.

You need to look up the amount of money every weekend Trump spends at Mar A Lago cost taxpayers, because it's ludicrous.

If Trump were the man he claims to be he would charge the government nothing for costs at his resort. We pay through the nose for it...

And everything else you said is just as ridiculous.

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May 16, 2018 03:33:20   #
eden
 
woodguru wrote:
You have so much wrong that it would take a sentence by sentence correction. He is charging the government in a major way for Mar A Lago, rooms for secret service, they are even charged ludicrous money for the rental of golf carts. He meets with people who paid for memberships, and they pay full pop plus for rooms and the meals they eat and the wine they drink.

You need to look up the amount of money every weekend Trump spends at Mar A Lago cost taxpayers, because it's ludicrous.

If Trump were the man he claims to be he would charge the government nothing for costs at his resort. We pay through the nose for it...

And everything else you said is just as ridiculous.
You have so much wrong that it would take a senten... (show quote)


Richard Painter, former Chief Ethics Lawyer under George Bush has repeatedly stated that Trump is in violation of the Emoluments Clause which Painter has publically denounced as unconstitutional.

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May 16, 2018 03:40:26   #
woodguru
 
It is the intent to prohibit the president of the United States to personally profit from any foreign affairs in any way shape or form. Show me Trump making money from foreign entities where we have a foreign interest and it is an emolument.

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May 16, 2018 06:32:57   #
Big Kahuna
 
slatten49 wrote:
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”
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Keep it simple slatten!!

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May 16, 2018 06:36:16   #
Big Kahuna
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Did the democrats and Trump h**ers forget that president Trump does not receive his salary as president of the United States? In addition, he relinquished his business empire. Which are now totally managed and under the control of his sons Eric and Donald Trump.

While your favorite Obama was paid $500k per year, expended the taxpayers money for lavish vacations all over the world. His most monarch like vacation was on 2010 when he spent $2 billion dollars for 10 days to India and Indonesia, along with
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-438258

President Trump does not have vacation abroad except on official visit in Europe, China, South Korea, and the Philippines. All of these trips were official business.
When the president goes to Florida he does not pay taxpayers' money because he uses his own Mora Lago, along with all the foreign dignitaries he host there. When he goes to NJ he uses his own Golf Course, does not spend any taxpayers' money.

Unlike Obama, spending millions of dollars to Hawaii, rent a 10,000 sq ft hotel or mansion for millions of dollars, for his family while he went golfing, all paid by our tax money.

Obama's dog caregiver alone is paid $104,000 annually, plus lucrative benefits.
Michelle has 27 personal assistants, while Melania had only 4. All other First Ladies had 1, 2, or 3 personal assistants. Except Mrs Mamie Eisenhower who had one personal assistant, which she paid out of their own money, and not taxpayers.
=================== br Did the democrats and Trump... (show quote)


The ovommit's were 2 of the biggest l*****t black fraudsters to be unleashed on the unsuspecting and gullible Americans. Hopefully these patsey Americans will wise up and get out of the corrupt as hell demonrat party. Never ever v**e demonrat!!

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May 16, 2018 07:10:35   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Did the democrats and Trump h**ers forget that president Trump does not receive his salary as president of the United States? In addition, he relinquished his business empire. Which are now totally managed and under the control of his sons Eric and Donald Trump.

While your favorite Obama was paid $500k per year, expended the taxpayers money for lavish vacations all over the world. His most monarch like vacation was on 2010 when he spent $2 billion dollars for 10 days to India and Indonesia, along with
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/34-warships-sent-from-us-for-obama-visit-438258

President Trump does not have vacation abroad except on official visit in Europe, China, South Korea, and the Philippines. All of these trips were official business.
When the president goes to Florida he does not pay taxpayers' money because he uses his own Mora Lago, along with all the foreign dignitaries he host there. When he goes to NJ he uses his own Golf Course, does not spend any taxpayers' money.

Unlike Obama, spending millions of dollars to Hawaii, rent a 10,000 sq ft hotel or mansion for millions of dollars, for his family while he went golfing, all paid by our tax money.

Obama's dog caregiver alone is paid $104,000 annually, plus lucrative benefits.
Michelle has 27 personal assistants, while Melania had only 4. All other First Ladies had 1, 2, or 3 personal assistants. Except Mrs Mamie Eisenhower who had one personal assistant, which she paid out of their own money, and not taxpayers.
=================== br Did the democrats and Trump... (show quote)



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May 16, 2018 07:15:47   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
slatten49 wrote:
Donald Trump Has People Talking About This Part of the Constitution

By Olivia B. Waxman November 22, 2016

As President-elect Donald Trump moves toward the Oval Office, his business empire has become the subject of much curiosity over potential conflicts of interest. Now legal experts are debating whether Trump’s business dealings with entities controlled by foreign governments may violate the Emoluments Clauset of the U.S. Constitution.

The clause in question specifically states that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind wh**ever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.”

But what’s an emolument?

The simplest definition is that an emolument is compensation for services or from employment or an office. It has also been said to mean “advantage” or “benefit.” The word comes from emolumentum, which is Latin for “profit” or “gain.” According to Merriam Webster, the word has been used in English language since the late 15th century, and it is believed to have originally been used to refer to payment to a miller for grinding corn – derived from the word emolere, meaning “to grind up,” with “the prefix e- here adding the notion of ‘thoroughly,'” according to Oxford Dictionaries.

The Constitution’s provision is borrowed from the Dutch, who, according to the National Constitution Center, instituted a rule in the mid-17th century that prohibited foreign ministers from accepting gifts, in an attempt to crack down on a custom in which rulers would give presents to departing foreign emissaries or diplomats. “Every one knows the vast sums laid out in Europe for secret services,” argued Elbridge Gerry, a delegate at the Constitutional Convention.

“The standard thing you got from Louis XVI was a portrait of Louis XVI surrounded by diamonds, and everybody knew that the departing diplomats took the diamonds out of the frames and sold them,” says Herb Sloan, professor emeritus of history at Barnard College. “It was practices like that that bothered the Founding Fathers, who thought of these as potential bribes.”

In fact, Ben Franklin received one of these portraits in 1785, while the King of Spain gave John Jay a horse, according to the Heritage Foundation’s guide to the Constitution.

The Framers may have believed that allowing such gifts would put the brand-new Republic in danger of being overtaken by other superpowers. And they had reason to worry. For instance, historians say that in the 18th century, Britain and France attempted to manipulate Swedish politics to their own advantage by bribing opposing political parties. “This kind of interference by major superpowers in the affairs of lesser powers like Sweden — which was a declining power— or the new United States — which was no power at all — is something that people worried about a lot because they saw countries like Poland completely disappear from the map as their greedy neighbors gobbled them up, and that’s basically what people like Washington were warning about,” says Sloan.

So, near the end of the Constitutional Convention, Charles Pinckney “urged the necessity of preserving foreign Ministers & other officers of the U. S. independent of external influence.” That idea became the Emoluments Clause.

But, while the definition of the word may seem straightforward, legal experts are divided on how to apply the provision.

Seth Barrett Tillman, a lecturer at the Maynooth University Department of Law in Ireland, has argued that the clause doesn’t apply to the presidency or elected officials, but rather to federal government appointees. In fact, some questioned whether contributions made by foreign governments to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State violated the Emoluments Clause. Others—like Fordham Law professor Zephyr Teachout, who made the case in a New York Times op-ed—point out that past presidents have taken great pains to make sure they don’t bump up against the Emoluments Clause. She argues that the Legislative Branch is responsible for creating “a procedure to review and consent to foreign-state related t***sactions that benefit” the President, pointing out that Congress had President John Tyler auction off two horses given to him by a foreign power, and the proceeds went to the Department of the Treasury.

Meanwhile, Stephen I. Vladeck, Professor of Law at the University of Texas School of Law, tells TIME that the less high-profile Emoluments Clause has been “overtaken” by the Foreign Gifts and Decorations Act, enacted by Congress in 1966, which provides much more specific guidance on what types of gifts can be given and their value, in certain situations.

The many questions about the clause include, according to Erik Jensen, professor emeritus at Case Western Reserve University School of Law: whether a corporation formed by a foreign state but legally distinct counts; whether the term emolument can include more than compensation for services; whether it can apply to benefits in connection to arms-length property exchanges; and whether it applies to gifts to family members.

Such questions, he argues, “will never definitively be answered.”
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