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May 8, 2018 10:43:07   #
Lonewolf
 
Russian trole work is so hard


quote=1ProudAmerican]"MR. PRESIDENT" !!!

"Russian spy"...

yeah, and the black donkeyman got the NPP ... about as worthless as Kerry's medals.

"this is probably the most dishonest d********g thing you have posted"...THANK YOU, just doin' my job !!![/quote]

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May 8, 2018 10:46:34   #
Wm. E. Smith
 
permafrost wrote:
You right winger will never drop your lies and distortions about anything. No matter how well contradicted, the wishes in you shallow brains will not allow you to drop any lie, no matter how bazzare..

https://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/18/opinion/a-war-hero-or-a-phony.html

A War Hero or a Phony?
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOFSEPT. 18, 2004




Did Mr. Kerry get his first Purple Heart for a self-inflicted wound? That's the accusation of the Swift Boat Veterans for T***h, who say that the injury came (unintentionally) from a grenade that Mr. Kerry himself fired at Viet Cong. In fact, nobody knows where the shrapnel came from, and it's possible that the critics are right. It's not certain that the Viet Cong were returning fire. But the only other American on the boat in a position to see anything, Bill Zaldonis (who says he v**ed for Mr. Bush in 2000), told me, "He was hurt, and I don't think it was self-inflicted."

Did Mr. Kerry deserve his second and third Purple Hearts? There's not much dispute that the second was merited. As for the third one, the Swift Boat Veterans' claim that he received it for a minor injury he got while blowing up food supplies to keep them from the enemy. But documents and witness accounts show that he received a shrapnel wound when South Vietnamese troops blew up rice stores, and an injured arm in a mine explosion later that day.

Did Mr. Kerry deserve his Bronze Star? Yes. The Swift Boat Veterans claim that he was not facing enemy fire when he rescued a Green Beret, Jim Rassmann, but that is contradicted by those were there, like William Rood and Mr. Rassmann (a Republican). In fact, Mr. Rassmann recommended Mr. Kerry for a Silver Star.

Continue reading the main story
Did Mr. Kerry deserve his Silver Star? Absolutely. He earned it for responding to two separate ambushes in a courageous and unorthodox way, by heading straight into the gunfire. Then he pursued one armed fighter into the jungle and shot him dead. According to Fred Short, a machine gunner who saw the event, the fighter was an adult (not the half-naked teenager cited by the Swift Boat Veterans) who was preparing to launch a grenade at the boat. "Kerry went into harm's way to save the lives of the guys on the boat," Mr. Short told me. "If he hadn't done that, I am absolutely positive I would not be here today." Mr. Kerry's commander said he had wanted to give him an even higher honor, the Navy Cross, but thought it would take too long to process.

What do those who served with him say? Some who served on other boats have called Mr. Kerry a hypochondriac self-promoter. But every enlisted man who was with Mr. Kerry on various boats when he won Purple Hearts and Silver and Bronze Stars says he deserved them. All praise his courage and back his candidacy. "I was there for two of the Purple Hearts and the Bronze and Silver Stars, and he earned every one of them," said Delbert Sandusky, in a typical comment. "He saved our lives."
You right winger will never drop your lies and dis... (show quote)


I believed the boat crew when they testified, republican or democrat, it dont matter when you are in the field or harms way, i still believe the boat crew, they were there, you and i were not.
Kerry is a piece of s_ _ t to me ! WES🇺🇸
T

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May 8, 2018 11:16:59   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Wm. E. Smith wrote:
I believed the boat crew when they testified, republican or democrat, it dont matter when you are in the field or harms way, i still believe the boat crew, they were there, you and i were not.
Kerry is a piece of s_ _ t to me ! WES🇺🇸
T




Wm... You did not read what I posted did you. Or you simply missed this part...



But every enlisted man who was with Mr. Kerry on various boats when he won Purple Hearts and Silver and Bronze Stars says he deserved them. All praise his courage and back his candidacy. "I was there for two of the Purple Hearts and the Bronze and Silver Stars, and he earned every one of them," said Delbert Sandusky, in a typical comment. "He saved our lives."

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May 8, 2018 12:26:12   #
Hadenough
 
Lonewolf wrote:
You're calling a man with 3 purple hearts and a silver and bronze star a t*****r.
what do you call the mf draft dodger in the wh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_John_Kerry

this is probably the most dishonest d********g thing you have posted but this is all I expect from a Russian spy


Mr President!!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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May 8, 2018 16:05:41   #
Wm. E. Smith
 
permafrost wrote:
Wm... You did not read what I posted did you. Or you simply missed this part...



But every enlisted man who was with Mr. Kerry on various boats when he won Purple Hearts and Silver and Bronze Stars says he deserved them. All praise his courage and back his candidacy. "I was there for two of the Purple Hearts and the Bronze and Silver Stars, and he earned every one of them," said Delbert Sandusky, in a typical comment. "He saved our lives."


No sir, i dont remember it that way.
I remember seeing four men who served with kerry in vietnam on the TV.
They said that after hearing him speak about his service in southeast asia, and being with him there, that the missions he spoke of didnt happen.
I remember watching that on TV.
They said he was not even on parts of the mekong delta that he claimed he was.
They were very credible.
They all did their full tours of duty except the guys hurt or wounded.
I dont remember anything that you're talking about, except coming from kerry, and he is not someone i would believe.
And look what he is doing now, un-officially, that is not good for our country or our leader.
He has entitlement not deserved.
I have no respect for him, he is as bad as those walking around in military dress acting like they serve, when they dont.
He is a l*****t, AKA, socialist/c*******t.

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May 8, 2018 16:24:11   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Wm. E. Smith wrote:
No sir, i dont remember it that way.
I remember seeing four men who served with kerry in vietnam on the TV.
They said that after hearing him speak about his service in southeast asia, and being with him there, that the missions he spoke of didnt happen.
I remember watching that on TV.
They said he was not even on parts of the mekong delta that he claimed he was.
They were very credible.
They all did their full tours of duty except the guys hurt or wounded.
I dont remember anything that you're talking about, except coming from kerry, and he is not someone i would believe.
And look what he is doing now, un-officially, that is not good for our country or our leader.
He has entitlement not deserved.
I have no respect for him, he is as bad as those walking around in military dress acting like they serve, when they dont.
He is a l*****t, AKA, socialist/c*******t.
No sir, i dont remember it that way. br I remember... (show quote)





They sound like more of the right wing recruited liars used for the swift boat crusade..

I posted what was official, not a group of rumors and wishes..



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May 8, 2018 16:51:22   #
SinnieK
 
Wm. E. Smith wrote:
No sir, i dont remember it that way.
I remember seeing four men who served with kerry in vietnam on the TV.
They said that after hearing him speak about his service in southeast asia, and being with him there, that the missions he spoke of didnt happen.
I remember watching that on TV.
They said he was not even on parts of the mekong delta that he claimed he was.
They were very credible.
They all did their full tours of duty except the guys hurt or wounded.
I dont remember anything that you're talking about, except coming from kerry, and he is not someone i would believe.
And look what he is doing now, un-officially, that is not good for our country or our leader.
He has entitlement not deserved.
I have no respect for him, he is as bad as those walking around in military dress acting like they serve, when they dont.
He is a l*****t, AKA, socialist/c*******t.
No sir, i dont remember it that way. br I remember... (show quote)


John Kerry is just like McCain they are the branches of the poison tree.

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May 8, 2018 17:04:11   #
John Illinois
 
I ran River Patrol Boats in Viet Nam. If you read his website during the 2004 P**********l Campaign, There were many things he claimed that were either impossible with a Swift Boat, or Court Martial offenses. It seemed that every time the Swift Boat Vets challenged one of his statements, it would simply disappear from the website. Remember that he only spent 3 months in Viet Nam. He was assigned to not just one, but 3 different commands in country. Moving personnel between commands was not all that easy, unlike here in CONUS. If you look at where he went, first the farthest northern command, then the one furthest south away from them, then back to a far north command, it is obvious that they soon realized he'd get their guys k**led, and they got rid of him as soon as they could.

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May 8, 2018 17:19:45   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
John Illinois wrote:
I ran River Patrol Boats in Viet Nam. If you read his website during the 2004 P**********l Campaign, There were many things he claimed that were either impossible with a Swift Boat, or Court Martial offenses. It seemed that every time the Swift Boat Vets challenged one of his statements, it would simply disappear from the website. Remember that he only spent 3 months in Viet Nam. He was assigned to not just one, but 3 different commands in country. Moving personnel between commands was not all that easy, unlike here in CONUS. If you look at where he went, first the farthest northern command, then the one furthest south away from them, then back to a far north command, it is obvious that they soon realized he'd get their guys k**led, and they got rid of him as soon as they could.
I ran River Patrol Boats in Viet Nam. If you read... (show quote)




John, I do not think Kerry was ever in country... I only find the gridley and swift boats..

Tour of duty on the USS Gridley
Kerry's first tour of duty was as an ensign on the guided missile frigate USS Gridley, beginning June 8, 1967.[2] On February 9, 1968, the Gridley set sail for a Western Pacific deployment. The next day, Kerry requested duty in Vietnam, listing as his first preference a position as the commander of a Fast Patrol Craft (PCF), also known as a "Swift boat." These 50-foot boats have aluminum hulls and have little or no armor, but are heavily armed and rely on speed. "I didn't really want to get involved in the war," Kerry said in a book of Vietnam reminiscences published in 1986. "When I signed up for the swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. They were engaged in coastal patrolling and that's what I thought I was going to be doing."[3] However, Kerry's second choice of billet was in a river patrol boat, or PBR, squadron, which at the time was performing the more dangerous river duty.[4]

The Gridley traveled to several places, including Wellington in New Zealand, Subic Bay in the Philippines, and the Gulf of Tonkin off North Vietnam. The executive officer of the Gridley has described the deployment: "We deployed from San Diego to the Vietnam theatre in early 1968 after only a six-month turnaround and spent most of a four month deployment on rescue station in the Gulf of Tonkin, standing by to pick up downed aviators. It was a fairly grueling tour of duty. Our helicopter was shot up trying to rescue a downed pilot and the door gunner was k**led. The crew performed well and John Kerry's performance in all aspects of his duty was outstanding."[5] The ship departed for the U.S. on May 27, 1968, and returned to port at Long Beach, California on June 6. Ten days after returning, on June 16, Kerry was promoted to the rank of Lieutenant, junior grade. On June 20, he left the Gridley for special Swift boat training at the Naval Amphibious Base in C****ado.

Commander of a Swift boat
On November 17, 1968, Kerry reported for duty at Coastal Squadron 1 in Cam Ranh Bay in South Vietnam. Kerry took part in Operation Sea Lords, the brainchild of Admiral Elmo Zumwalt. The goal was to project a U.S. military presence more aggressively into an area that had long been a Viet Cong stronghold. As part of that plan, the Swift boats were assigned to patrol the narrow waterways — inlets, canals, and coves — of the Mekong River delta, to monitor enemy movements, interdict enemy river-based supply lines, invite attack and otherwise draw out hostile forces.

During his tour of duty as an Officer in Charge of Swift boats, Kerry led five-man crews on patrols into enemy-controlled areas. His first command was Swift boat PCF-44, from December 6, 1968, to January 21, 1969, when the crew was disbanded. They were based at Coastal Division 13 at Cat Lo from December 13 to J****** 6. Otherwise, they were stationed at Coastal Division 11 at An Thoi. On January 30, Kerry took charge of PCF-94 and its crew, which he led until he departed An Thoi on March 26 and the crew was disbanded.[6

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May 8, 2018 17:32:27   #
Wm. E. Smith
 
John Illinois wrote:
I ran River Patrol Boats in Viet Nam. If you read his website during the 2004 P**********l Campaign, There were many things he claimed that were either impossible with a Swift Boat, or Court Martial offenses. It seemed that every time the Swift Boat Vets challenged one of his statements, it would simply disappear from the website. Remember that he only spent 3 months in Viet Nam. He was assigned to not just one, but 3 different commands in country. Moving personnel between commands was not all that easy, unlike here in CONUS. If you look at where he went, first the farthest northern command, then the one furthest south away from them, then back to a far north command, it is obvious that they soon realized he'd get their guys k**led, and they got rid of him as soon as they could.
I ran River Patrol Boats in Viet Nam. If you read... (show quote)

John Illinois, you are just one of the many vietnam vets and regardless of your political views or leanings, you will have all of my respect.
My brother in law was on a swift boat in vietnam in 1967 - 1968.
On a night patrol in a narrow part of the delta he was shot across his waist with a russian machine gun, the first man down in that ambush.
The men and women who served in that war did a great job.
The U.S.Navy in swift boats, PBR's and all the like had a very dangerous job.
I salute you john, even though i was Army.
You guys in the Navy are bad ass !
John "fairy" kerry is a disgrace, but him or any other punk, cannot tarnish what you guys did.
My brother in law raced cars and built them before and after his tour, but he wanted to finish his tour even though he was discharged medically for combat wounds.
I hope our country has tried to make up any problems you may have had from your service, you deserve a great deal for it.

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May 8, 2018 17:53:44   #
SinnieK
 
Wm. E. Smith wrote:
No sir, i dont remember it that way.
I remember seeing four men who served with kerry in vietnam on the TV.
They said that after hearing him speak about his service in southeast asia, and being with him there, that the missions he spoke of didnt happen.
I remember watching that on TV.
They said he was not even on parts of the mekong delta that he claimed he was.
They were very credible.
They all did their full tours of duty except the guys hurt or wounded.
I dont remember anything that you're talking about, except coming from kerry, and he is not someone i would believe.
And look what he is doing now, un-officially, that is not good for our country or our leader.
He has entitlement not deserved.
I have no respect for him, he is as bad as those walking around in military dress acting like they serve, when they dont.
He is a l*****t, AKA, socialist/c*******t.
No sir, i dont remember it that way. br I remember... (show quote)


John Kerry is just like McCain they both are branches from the poison tree; they only serve their g*******t master and not the American people.

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May 8, 2018 18:10:10   #
Wm. E. Smith
 
SinnieK wrote:
John Kerry is just like McCain they both are branches from the poison tree; they only serve their g*******t master and not the American people.


John McCain is disappointing, from what i know he was a good pilot and endured alot more combat and military life, as well as time as a POW, than kerry did.
But now, they are both working against the U.S.A. and keeping good progress at bay.

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May 8, 2018 18:18:05   #
SinnieK
 
Wm. E. Smith wrote:
John McCain is disappointing, from what i know he was a good pilot and endured alot more combat and military life, as well as time as a POW, than kerry did.
But now, they are both working against the U.S.A. and keeping good progress at bay.


McCain turned his back on our POW in Vietnam which is shameful.

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May 8, 2018 18:18:17   #
John Illinois
 
I joined the Navy because I didn't want to crawl in the mud with the Army. I found out that everything that was painted grey was not steel. The difference between the brown water Navy and the Army, is the depth and viscosity of the mud. The terror and incoming fire was quite similar. Every patrol was hours of boredom interspaced by moments of sheer terror.The boats we had were not at all like the ones you see on PBS--ours were fiberglass Chris Craft Sea Skiff, with a single 327 Greymarine gas engine. They burned real good when they were shot up. Somebody finally got wise, and put armor plating around the fuel tank. In 2 years, I had 5 go down. Two were due to enemy fire, the other 3 were due to trash in the river making a big hole in the hull. One, I made it back to the tender, but they didn't have any straps in the carrier, so it sank beside the tender; another sank because the Admiral's barge crossed in front of me, and I shut it down. When an Ensign and an Admiral collide, who do you think will win that one? The third one just ran out of gas, and I couldn't keep the hole out of the water any longer. I recently met a guy who flew helicopters in Nam. I told him that I really appreciated it when they flew in and drew the fire away from me. He asked what I did, and I told him. He said that he thought that anyone who would drive a 250 gallon gas tank in a combat zone had to have a couple screws loose. We both agreed that it is amazing what the government can get people to do when you are young and think you are invincible.

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May 8, 2018 20:23:47   #
teabag09
 
Which were bought and paid for not earned so shut the &*$% up. I can't tell you what I really want to say to you right now because I'd be banned for life, you low life. Mike
Lonewolf wrote:
You're calling a man with 3 purple hearts and a silver and bronze star a t*****r.
what do you call the mf draft dodger in the wh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_career_of_John_Kerry

this is probably the most dishonest d********g thing you have posted but this is all I expect from a Russian spy

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