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"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone,"
May 6, 2018 18:48:37   #
rumitoid
 
According to scholars, this was added to the Bible in the 3rd Century. (Does that make it suspect?) A very nice Jesus...disobeying Jewish Law. If the Jews gathered to stone that adulteress followed the strict requirements to carry out such a sentence, Jesus acted against God's law. There is no indication those men with stones did not follow the standards outlined in the Bible for this just punishment. What happens here is either Jesus is apostate, rebelling against what his father has wrought as justice, or establishing a whole new paradigm of judgment. The implications are huge. Humongous! Do you see?

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May 6, 2018 20:04:20   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
According to scholars, this was added to the Bible in the 3rd Century. (Does that make it suspect?) A very nice Jesus...disobeying Jewish Law. If the Jews gathered to stone that adulteress followed the strict requirements to carry out such a sentence, Jesus acted against God's law. There is no indication those men with stones did not follow the standards outlined in the Bible for this just punishment. What happens here is either Jesus is apostate, rebelling against what his father has wrought as justice, or establishing a whole new paradigm of judgment. The implications are huge. Humongous! Do you see?
According to scholars, this was added to the Bible... (show quote)

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Don't use Jesus to justify your crimes. The people you are defending are not even Christians. They are Islam criminals who want to k**l Christians. They are drug dealers and addicts who poison the Christians. They are criminals who k**l Christians.
Romans 13:1 Everyone must obey state authorities, because no authority exists without God's permission, and the existing authorities have been put there by God.
And they are under God.



God said, people must obey the law and the leader for they are also under God.

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May 6, 2018 20:49:00   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Don't use Jesus to justify your crimes. The people you are defending are not even Christians. They are Islam criminals who want to k**l Christians. They are drug dealers and addicts who poison the Christians. They are criminals who k**l Christians.
Romans 13:1 Everyone must obey state authorities, because no authority exists without God's permission, and the existing authorities have been put there by God.
And they are under God.



God said, people must obey the law and the leader for they are also under God.
=================0 br Don't use Jesus to justify y... (show quote)


Take a breath and re-read.

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May 6, 2018 22:54:32   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
Take a breath and re-read.


You don't understand the Holy Bible because you are not a Christian.

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May 6, 2018 23:46:11   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Since you seem to have a concept of the Bible. Have you ever read of the Trinity ? Father, Son and Holy Ghost. They are all one in the same. Which means that the Son can not rebel against the Father because they are the same. I am familiar with the story that you are alluding to. In my studies, my personal opinion. Jesus was obeying Jewish Law. Adultery was one of the Ten Commandments. If you study and read, he preached on those commandments. He taught that disobeying your Mother or Father is as great a sin as adultery. Under the Law, what he was telling those men, who among you can throw the first stone. Who among you have kept all the commandments ?
rumitoid wrote:
According to scholars, this was added to the Bible in the 3rd Century. (Does that make it suspect?) A very nice Jesus...disobeying Jewish Law. If the Jews gathered to stone that adulteress followed the strict requirements to carry out such a sentence, Jesus acted against God's law. There is no indication those men with stones did not follow the standards outlined in the Bible for this just punishment. What happens here is either Jesus is apostate, rebelling against what his father has wrought as justice, or establishing a whole new paradigm of judgment. The implications are huge. Humongous! Do you see?
According to scholars, this was added to the Bible... (show quote)

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May 8, 2018 20:38:22   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Don't use Jesus to justify your crimes. The people you are defending are not even Christians. They are Islam criminals who want to k**l Christians. They are drug dealers and addicts who poison the Christians. They are criminals who k**l Christians.
Romans 13:1 Everyone must obey state authorities, because no authority exists without God's permission, and the existing authorities have been put there by God.
And they are under God.



God said, people must obey the law and the leader for they are also under God.
=================0 br Don't use Jesus to justify y... (show quote)


Off-topic and ridiculous.

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May 8, 2018 20:39:10   #
rumitoid
 
Radiance3 wrote:
You don't understand the Holy Bible because you are not a Christian.


Okay. How so?

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May 8, 2018 20:48:58   #
rumitoid
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Since you seem to have a concept of the Bible. Have you ever read of the Trinity ? Father, Son and Holy Ghost. They are all one in the same. Which means that the Son can not rebel against the Father because they are the same. I am familiar with the story that you are alluding to. In my studies, my personal opinion. Jesus was obeying Jewish Law. Adultery was one of the Ten Commandments. If you study and read, he preached on those commandments. He taught that disobeying your Mother or Father is as great a sin as adultery. Under the Law, what he was telling those men, who among you can throw the first stone. Who among you have kept all the commandments ?
Since you seem to have a concept of the Bible. Hav... (show quote)


True, in a sense. The Law does not require perfection. There is a strict Jewish policy to put a person to death. At least two witnesses must attest to the sin. However, The rabbis of the Talmud discussed the legal requirements of capital punishment at great length, establishing significant barriers that made such a sentence extremely difficult to carry out. According to the Mishnah, capital cases had to be decided by a Sanhedrin of 23 judges. If the conviction in a capital case was unanimous, the accused was acquitted. Perhaps most onerous of all, the offense had to be witnessed by two people who warned the perpetrator immediately prior to committing the act that it was a capital offense. 

Such stringencies are often understood to account for the famous Mishnah passage that states that if a Sanhedrin executed one person in seven years, it was considered destructive. Rabbi Elazar Ben Azariah objects that the standard is actually once in 70 years, and Rabbis Tarfon and Akiva say that had they served on the court, no one would have ever been executed.

However, some scholars, such as Rabbi Louis Jacobs in The Jewish Religion: A Companion, have noted that the power of Jewish courts to impose a death sentence was ended by the Romans sometime in the first century of the Common Era, and as a result the Talmudic discussions of the matter, including their imposition of stringent rules of evidence in capital cases, should be understood as purely theoretical — not as practical guidance for how such cases should actually be adjudicated. Jacobs also pointed to passages in the Talmud and elsewhere that permit extrajudicial execution in certain circumstances as evidence that Jewish law is not as uncomfortable with the death penalty as is sometimes said to be the case.

Maimonides writes in the Mishneh Torah that in a case where someone commits murder but cannot be convicted on account of some technicality, the k**ler is to be fed bread and water until he aches and then fed barley until his stomach ruptures. A similar punishment is prescribed by the Talmud for repeat offenders. Elsewhere, Maimonides writes that a king may execute a k**ler even without clear proof or a warning for the sake of public order, and may even leave their bodies h*****g for days to instill fear in the hearts of the wicked. The Talmud endorses a similar position, saying that in certain extreme circumstances courts may impose a death penalty even if the standard legal requirements are not met. The Shulchan Aruch later codified that ruling, saying that punishments of death could be imposed without clear testimony at times of rampant sinfulness.

Furthering this line of thought is the fact that the Talmud discusses in detail the various types of executions, which some take as evidence that the mechanics of carrying out a death sentence were of more than theoretical concern. Four methods of execution are discussed in the Talmud: stoning, burning, beheading and strangulation.
The Death Penalty in Israel

The death penalty has been carried out only twice in Israel’s history. The most famous instance was the case of Adolf Eichmann, the senior SS officer and leading architect of the Holocaust who was executed by h*****g in 1962 after a trial that captivated the world. The other case was shortly after Israel’s establishment in 1948, when an army officer, Meir Tobianski, was executed for treason after a court martial in which he had no legal representation. Tobianski was posthumously exonerated and reburied in a military ceremony with full honors. Several other death sentences have been handed down over the years but none carried out.

Current Israeli law allows for the death penalty only in limited circumstances. These include crimes related to the Holocaust and treason committed by a soldier during wartime. The Israeli Knesset v**ed in 1954 to abolish the death penalty for murder. Technically, Palestinian terrorism is liable for capital punishment under Israeli law, but Israel has never executed a Palestinian terrorist convicted at trial. (Israel’s military, like the U.S. military and others, has carried out targeted assassinations of terrorist suspects, a policy validated by Israel’s Supreme Court in 2006.) In recent years, right-wing lawmakers have been pushing for this to change. In 2015, the
overwhelmingly v**ed down a bill introduced by the right-wing Israel Beiteinu party that would have made it easier for judges to impose a death sentence on terrorists. In 2017, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called for the death penalty in “severe cases,” a call he issued after visiting the family of three Israelis stabbed to death by a Palestinian in their home in the West Bank settlement of Halamish.

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-death-penalty-in-jewish-tradition/

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May 10, 2018 13:40:40   #
Radiance3
 
rumitoid wrote:
Off-topic and ridiculous.


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Off topic, you justify when it comes to your ignorance and lies!

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May 10, 2018 13:44:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
rumitoid wrote:
Off-topic and ridiculous.
The only "topic" you ever post is "look at me, ain't I one intellectual sonuvab***h."

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