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May 7, 2018 14:40:08   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump-team-hired-spy-firm-for-‘dirty-ops’-on-iran-arms-deal/ar-AAwQbIu?ocid=spartandhp

Aides to Donald Trump, the US president, hired an Israeli private intelligence agency to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, the Observer can reveal.
People in the Trump camp contacted private investigators in May last year to “get dirt” on Ben Rhodes, who had been one of Barack Obama’s top national security advisers, and Colin Kahl, deputy assistant to Obama, as part of an elaborate attempt to discredit the deal.
The extraordinary revelations come days before Trump’s 12 May deadline to either scrap or continue to abide by the international deal limiting Iran’s nuclear programme.
Trump’s dirty ops attack on Obama legacy shows pure hatred for Iran deal

Jack Straw, who as foreign secretary was involved in earlier efforts to restrict Iranian weapons, said: “These are extraordinary and appalling allegations but which also illustrate a high level of desperation by Trump and [the Israeli prime minister] Benjamin Netanyahu, not so much to discredit the deal but to undermine those around it.”
One former high-ranking British diplomat with wide experience of negotiating international peace agreements, requesting anonymity, said: “It’s bloody outrageous to do this. The whole point of negotiations is to not play dirty tricks like this.”
Sources said that officials linked to Trump’s team contacted investigators days after Trump visited Tel Aviv a year ago, his first foreign tour as US president. Trump promised Netanyahu that Iran would never have nuclear weapons and suggested that the Iranians thought they could “do what they want” since negotiating the nuclear deal in 2015. A source with details of the “dirty tricks campaign” said: “The idea was that people acting for Trump would discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal, making it easier to pull out of it.”

According to incendiary documents seen by the Observer, investigators contracted by the private intelligence agency were told to dig into the personal lives and political careers of Rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, and Kahl, a national security adviser to the former vice-president Joe Biden. Among other things they were looking at personal relationships, any involvement with Iran-friendly lobbyists, and if they had benefited personally or politically from the peace deal.


Investigators were also apparently told to contact prominent Iranian Americans as well as pro-deal journalists – from the New York Times, MSNBC television, the Atlantic, Vox website and Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper among others – who had frequent contact with Rhodes and Kahl in an attempt to establish whether they had violated any protocols by sharing sensitive intelligence. They are believed to have looked at comments made by Rhodes in a 2016 New York Times profile in which he admitted relying on inexperienced reporters to create an “echo chamber” that helped sway public opinion to secure the deal. It is also understood that the smear campaign wanted to establish if Rhodes was among those who backed a request by Susan Rice, Obama’s final national security adviser, to unmask the identities of Trump t***sition officials caught up in the surveillance of foreign targets.
Although sources have confirmed that contact and an initial plan of attack was provided to private investigators by representatives of Trump, it is not clear how much work was actually undertaken, for how long or what became of any material unearthed.
The Observer view on Trump’s folly in risking not just peace in the Middle East

Neither is it known if the black ops constituted only a strand of a wider Trump-Netanyahu collaboration to undermine the deal or if investigators targeted other individuals such as John Kerry, the lead American signatory to the deal. Both Rhodes and Kahl said they had no idea of the campaign against them. Rhodes said: “I was not aware, though sadly am not surprised. I would say that digging up dirt on someone for carrying out their professional responsibilities in their positions as White House officials is a chillingly authoritarian thing to do.”
A spokesman for the White House’s national security council offered “no comment” when approached. However, the revelations are not the first time that claims of “dirty tricks” have been aimed at the Trump camp. Special counsel Robert Mueller is leading an investigation into apparent attempts by Trump’s inner-circle to dig up damaging information on Hillary Clinton during the 2016 p**********l campaign.

Missiles are paraded through Tehran on Iran’s annual army day on 18 April. Photograph: Atta Kenare/AFP/Getty Images
Of particular interest is a meeting involving the US president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, his brother-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort and a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer who had promised damaging information about Clinton.
Trump has repeatedly signalled his intention to scrap the Iran deal, denouncing it as “the worst deal ever.” In a January speech the US president accused his predecessor of having “curried favour with the Iranian regime in order to push through the disastrously flawed Iran nuclear deal.”
Last Monday, Netanyahu, accused Iran of continuing to hide and expand its nuclear weapons know-how after the 2015 deal, presenting what he claimed was “new and conclusive proof” of violations.
However, European powers including Britain responded by saying the Israeli prime minister’s claims reinforced the need to keep the deal.
On Thursday the UN secretary general Antonio Guterres urged Trump not to walk away from the deal, warning that there was a real risk of war if the 2015 agreement was not preserved. The following day details emerged of some unusual shadow diplomacy by Kerry, meeting a top-ranking Iranian official in New York to discuss how to preserve the deal.
It was the second time in around two months that Kerry had met foreign minister Javad Zarif to apparently strategise over rescuing a pact they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration. On Sunday Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, will arrive in Washington, hoping to persuade Trump to keep the deal, known as the joint comprehensive plan of action (JCPOA).
Straw, who was foreign secretary between 2001 and 2006, said: “The campaign against the JCPOA has been characterised by abuse and misinformation. It is the best chance of ensuring Iran never develops a nuclear weapons programme, and it is insane to suggest abandoning the deal could do anything but endanger international security.”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump... (show quote)


Who are the ones making these statements?

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May 7, 2018 14:42:36   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
working class stiff wrote:
How do you know that? Maybe Trump sent him to find a way to salvage the deal. For all you know, Kerry is working for Trump. With Trump's record for lying, it wouldn't be the first time he said one thing while doing the opposite.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/there-is-no-trump-doctrine-only-contradictions-and-bluster


You are really a wacko if you believe Trump would ever use Kerry for anything except a talking point about the progressive's move to have him removed from office.

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May 7, 2018 14:46:40   #
moldyoldy
 
Louie27 wrote:
Who are the ones making these statements?


The Guardian reports that although Donald Trump and his team have access to all the resources of a presidency, it's still not enough: In an effort to bolster their bid to withdraw from the multilateral Iran nuclear deal, the Trump team hired an Israeli-based agency to probe for secret "dirt" they could use against the American officials who negotiated it.
Aides to Donald Trump, the US president, hired an Israeli private intelligence agency to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, the Observer can reveal.
People in the Trump camp contacted private investigators in May last year to “get dirt” on Ben Rhodes, who had been one of Barack Obama’s top national security advisers, and Colin Kahl, deputy assistant to Obama, as part of an elaborate attempt to discredit the deal.
[...] A source with details of the “dirty tricks campaign” said: “The idea was that people acting for Trump would discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal, making it easier to pull out of it.”
This is, not to put too fine a point on it, insane. Donald Trump's team went to foreign agents to request espionage efforts be made against members of the administration they replaced so that, in their thinking, the Americans involved in the nuclear deal would be discredited?
The Trump White House appears to stumble into authoritarian—or mobster—behavior at every possible turn. This is going to be yet another bizarre thread to unravel: Just who, on the Trump team, floated the idea of hiring a foreign intelligence firm to act against members of the previous U.S. government? How many additional aides signed off on it? What was Trump’s own role?
How do you even come up with such an extravagantly malevolent idea, much less get enough internal administration support to actually undertake such a thing?

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May 7, 2018 14:58:27   #
woodguru
 
moldyoldy wrote:
It is really strange that the people who fought for this country are vilified and those who ran the other way are your heroes. What does that say about you and your ilk.


It's alt everything, alt facts, alt patriots, alt christians. The right is all about not understanding what the real things are.

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May 7, 2018 15:09:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump-team-hired-spy-firm-for-‘dirty-ops’-on-iran-arms-deal/ar-AAwQbIu?ocid=spartandhp

Aides to Donald Trump, the US president, hired an Israeli private intelligence agency to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, the Observer can reveal.
People in the Trump camp contacted private investigators in May last year to “get dirt” on Ben Rhodes, who had been one of Barack Obama’s top national security advisers, and Colin Kahl, deputy assistant to Obama, as part of an elaborate attempt to discredit the deal.
The extraordinary revelations come days before Trump’s 12 May deadline to either scrap or continue to abide by the international deal limiting Iran’s nuclear programme.
Trump’s dirty ops attack on Obama legacy shows pure hatred for Iran deal

Jack Straw, who as foreign secretary was involved in earlier efforts to restrict Iranian weapons, said: “These are extraordinary and appalling allegations but which also illustrate a high level of desperation by Trump and [the Israeli prime minister] Benjamin Netanyahu, not so much to discredit the deal but to undermine those around it.”
One former high-ranking British diplomat with wide experience of negotiating international peace agreements, requesting anonymity, said: “It’s bloody outrageous to do this. The whole point of negotiations is to not play dirty tricks like this.”
Sources said that officials linked to Trump’s team contacted investigators days after Trump visited Tel Aviv a year ago, his first foreign tour as US president. Trump promised Netanyahu that Iran would never have nuclear weapons and suggested that the Iranians thought they could “do what they want” since negotiating the nuclear deal in 2015. A source with details of the “dirty tricks campaign” said: “The idea was that people acting for Trump would discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal, making it easier to pull out of it.”

According to incendiary documents seen by the Observer, investigators contracted by the private intelligence agency were told to dig into the personal lives and political careers of Rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, and Kahl, a national security adviser to the former vice-president Joe Biden. Among other things they were looking at personal relationships, any involvement with Iran-friendly lobbyists, and if they had benefited personally or politically from the peace deal.


Investigators were also apparently told to contact prominent Iranian Americans as well as pro-deal journalists – from the New York Times, MSNBC television, the Atlantic, Vox website and Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper among others – who had frequent contact with Rhodes and Kahl in an attempt to establish whether they had violated any protocols by sharing sensitive intelligence. They are believed to have looked at comments made by Rhodes in a 2016 New York Times profile in which he admitted relying on inexperienced reporters to create an “echo chamber” that helped sway public opinion to secure the deal. It is also understood that the smear campaign wanted to establish if Rhodes was among those who backed a request by Susan Rice, Obama’s final national security adviser, to unmask the identities of Trump t***sition officials caught up in the surveillance of foreign targets.
Although sources have confirmed that contact and an initial plan of attack was provided to private investigators by representatives of Trump, it is not clear how much work was actually undertaken, for how long or what became of any material unearthed.
The Observer view on Trump’s folly in risking not just peace in the Middle East

Neither is it known if the black ops constituted only a strand of a wider Trump-Netanyahu collaboration to undermine the deal or if investigators targeted other individuals such as John Kerry, the lead American signatory to the deal. Both Rhodes and Kahl said they had no idea of the campaign against them. Rhodes said: “I was not aware, though sadly am not surprised. I would say that digging up dirt on someone for carrying out their professional responsibilities in their positions as White House officials is a chillingly authoritarian thing to do.”
A spokesman for the White House’s national security council offered “no comment” when approached. However, the revelations are not the first time that claims of “dirty tricks” have been aimed at the Trump camp. Special counsel Robert Mueller is leading an investigation into apparent attempts by Trump’s inner-circle to dig up damaging information on Hillary Clinton during the 2016 p**********l campaign.

Missiles are paraded through Tehran on Iran’s annual army day on 18 April. Photograph: Atta Kenare/AFP/Getty Images
Of particular interest is a meeting involving the US president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, his brother-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort and a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer who had promised damaging information about Clinton.
Trump has repeatedly signalled his intention to scrap the Iran deal, denouncing it as “the worst deal ever.” In a January speech the US president accused his predecessor of having “curried favour with the Iranian regime in order to push through the disastrously flawed Iran nuclear deal.”
Last Monday, Netanyahu, accused Iran of continuing to hide and expand its nuclear weapons know-how after the 2015 deal, presenting what he claimed was “new and conclusive proof” of violations.
However, European powers including Britain responded by saying the Israeli prime minister’s claims reinforced the need to keep the deal.
On Thursday the UN secretary general Antonio Guterres urged Trump not to walk away from the deal, warning that there was a real risk of war if the 2015 agreement was not preserved. The following day details emerged of some unusual shadow diplomacy by Kerry, meeting a top-ranking Iranian official in New York to discuss how to preserve the deal.
It was the second time in around two months that Kerry had met foreign minister Javad Zarif to apparently strategise over rescuing a pact they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration. On Sunday Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, will arrive in Washington, hoping to persuade Trump to keep the deal, known as the joint comprehensive plan of action (JCPOA).
Straw, who was foreign secretary between 2001 and 2006, said: “The campaign against the JCPOA has been characterised by abuse and misinformation. It is the best chance of ensuring Iran never develops a nuclear weapons programme, and it is insane to suggest abandoning the deal could do anything but endanger international security.”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump... (show quote)


For a second there, I thought I was reading about the democrats hiring a British spy to get dirt on Trump. If all this is true, then they can take credit for being the first to have done such thing and shouldn't be surprised that someone would employ their own tactics against them.

I find it rather humorous!

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May 7, 2018 15:47:10   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump-team-hired-spy-firm-for-‘dirty-ops’-on-iran-arms-deal/ar-AAwQbIu?ocid=spartandhp

Aides to Donald Trump, the US president, hired an Israeli private intelligence agency to orchestrate a “dirty ops” campaign against key individuals from the Obama administration who helped negotiate the Iran nuclear deal, the Observer can reveal.
People in the Trump camp contacted private investigators in May last year to “get dirt” on Ben Rhodes, who had been one of Barack Obama’s top national security advisers, and Colin Kahl, deputy assistant to Obama, as part of an elaborate attempt to discredit the deal.
The extraordinary revelations come days before Trump’s 12 May deadline to either scrap or continue to abide by the international deal limiting Iran’s nuclear programme.
Trump’s dirty ops attack on Obama legacy shows pure hatred for Iran deal

Jack Straw, who as foreign secretary was involved in earlier efforts to restrict Iranian weapons, said: “These are extraordinary and appalling allegations but which also illustrate a high level of desperation by Trump and [the Israeli prime minister] Benjamin Netanyahu, not so much to discredit the deal but to undermine those around it.”
One former high-ranking British diplomat with wide experience of negotiating international peace agreements, requesting anonymity, said: “It’s bloody outrageous to do this. The whole point of negotiations is to not play dirty tricks like this.”
Sources said that officials linked to Trump’s team contacted investigators days after Trump visited Tel Aviv a year ago, his first foreign tour as US president. Trump promised Netanyahu that Iran would never have nuclear weapons and suggested that the Iranians thought they could “do what they want” since negotiating the nuclear deal in 2015. A source with details of the “dirty tricks campaign” said: “The idea was that people acting for Trump would discredit those who were pivotal in selling the deal, making it easier to pull out of it.”

According to incendiary documents seen by the Observer, investigators contracted by the private intelligence agency were told to dig into the personal lives and political careers of Rhodes, a former deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, and Kahl, a national security adviser to the former vice-president Joe Biden. Among other things they were looking at personal relationships, any involvement with Iran-friendly lobbyists, and if they had benefited personally or politically from the peace deal.


Investigators were also apparently told to contact prominent Iranian Americans as well as pro-deal journalists – from the New York Times, MSNBC television, the Atlantic, Vox website and Haaretz, the Israeli newspaper among others – who had frequent contact with Rhodes and Kahl in an attempt to establish whether they had violated any protocols by sharing sensitive intelligence. They are believed to have looked at comments made by Rhodes in a 2016 New York Times profile in which he admitted relying on inexperienced reporters to create an “echo chamber” that helped sway public opinion to secure the deal. It is also understood that the smear campaign wanted to establish if Rhodes was among those who backed a request by Susan Rice, Obama’s final national security adviser, to unmask the identities of Trump t***sition officials caught up in the surveillance of foreign targets.
Although sources have confirmed that contact and an initial plan of attack was provided to private investigators by representatives of Trump, it is not clear how much work was actually undertaken, for how long or what became of any material unearthed.
The Observer view on Trump’s folly in risking not just peace in the Middle East

Neither is it known if the black ops constituted only a strand of a wider Trump-Netanyahu collaboration to undermine the deal or if investigators targeted other individuals such as John Kerry, the lead American signatory to the deal. Both Rhodes and Kahl said they had no idea of the campaign against them. Rhodes said: “I was not aware, though sadly am not surprised. I would say that digging up dirt on someone for carrying out their professional responsibilities in their positions as White House officials is a chillingly authoritarian thing to do.”
A spokesman for the White House’s national security council offered “no comment” when approached. However, the revelations are not the first time that claims of “dirty tricks” have been aimed at the Trump camp. Special counsel Robert Mueller is leading an investigation into apparent attempts by Trump’s inner-circle to dig up damaging information on Hillary Clinton during the 2016 p**********l campaign.

Missiles are paraded through Tehran on Iran’s annual army day on 18 April. Photograph: Atta Kenare/AFP/Getty Images
Of particular interest is a meeting involving the US president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr, his brother-in-law Jared Kushner and then-campaign chair Paul Manafort and a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer who had promised damaging information about Clinton.
Trump has repeatedly signalled his intention to scrap the Iran deal, denouncing it as “the worst deal ever.” In a January speech the US president accused his predecessor of having “curried favour with the Iranian regime in order to push through the disastrously flawed Iran nuclear deal.”
Last Monday, Netanyahu, accused Iran of continuing to hide and expand its nuclear weapons know-how after the 2015 deal, presenting what he claimed was “new and conclusive proof” of violations.
However, European powers including Britain responded by saying the Israeli prime minister’s claims reinforced the need to keep the deal.
On Thursday the UN secretary general Antonio Guterres urged Trump not to walk away from the deal, warning that there was a real risk of war if the 2015 agreement was not preserved. The following day details emerged of some unusual shadow diplomacy by Kerry, meeting a top-ranking Iranian official in New York to discuss how to preserve the deal.
It was the second time in around two months that Kerry had met foreign minister Javad Zarif to apparently strategise over rescuing a pact they spent years negotiating during the Obama administration. On Sunday Boris Johnson, the foreign secretary, will arrive in Washington, hoping to persuade Trump to keep the deal, known as the joint comprehensive plan of action (JCPOA).
Straw, who was foreign secretary between 2001 and 2006, said: “The campaign against the JCPOA has been characterised by abuse and misinformation. It is the best chance of ensuring Iran never develops a nuclear weapons programme, and it is insane to suggest abandoning the deal could do anything but endanger international security.”
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/revealed-trump... (show quote)


Just more MSM bulls**t! Keep telling the lie, tell it big and keep telling it and eventually the stupid people will start believing it!

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May 7, 2018 15:49:16   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
proud republican wrote:
MSN??? Yeah ok!!!!BTW John Kerry did worse...He went behind President's back to talk to Iranian terrorist about this terrible deal.....He should be charged with treason against humanity and hung by his balls for everybody to see!!!!
MSN??? Yeah ok!!!!BTW John Kerry did worse...He we... (show quote)


proud republican: Research what kerry did when he was still officially on active duty with the Navy! Even Democrats considered he be brought up on gross violation of UMCJ for his influence during the Paris Peace Talks!

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May 7, 2018 15:50:00   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
If you read the story you would see that it came from the guardian, MSN, Microsoft, they post news items from others just like huffpost or yahoo.


guardian is even worse horse s**t!

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May 7, 2018 15:50:57   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Every sensible person should be fighting against i***t trump.


moldy: Every sensible person should be fighting against i***ts like you!!!!!!

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May 7, 2018 16:19:10   #
moldyoldy
 
ldsuttonjr wrote:
moldy: Every sensible person should be fighting against i***ts like you!!!!!!


You fight all the time but you never have any facts, just vitriolic reactions.

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May 7, 2018 17:31:04   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
moldyoldy wrote:
You fight all the time but you never have any facts, just vitriolic reactions.


moldy: You wouldn't know a fact if it f@#^ you!

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May 7, 2018 17:48:46   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
ChiCom Kerry n' Hanoi Jane are Maoist Sympathizers...End of Story.

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May 7, 2018 19:50:00   #
PeterS
 
Peewee wrote:
The late Sec of State Kerry served in Vietnam. The men who served with him came out in mass to expose him when he thought he could be president. It was called Operation Swift Boat if memory serves. One of the allegations against Kerry is that he jumped overboard and chase down a young unarmed kid and shot him in the back k*****g him. Upon his return, he denounced the military and our country comparing us to Ghingas Kahn and threw away his medals, supposedly over the White House fence. The man is a c****e, a tool, and dumber than dirt. The only thing I can credit to his intelligence is, he married the heiress to the Heinz Catsup company. But he is a blue blood and a liberal so of course, he skated.
The late Sec of State Kerry served in Vietnam. The... (show quote)

Snip>>During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2004 U.S. p**********l campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry's Vietnam War record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for T***h (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for T***h, questioned details of his military service record and circumstances relating to the award of his combat medals. Their campaign against Kerry's p**********l bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.[4][5][6]

Wh**ever Kerry is those who "Swiftboated" him are a thousand times worse...

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May 7, 2018 20:52:58   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2004 U.S. p**********l campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry's Vietnam War record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for T***h (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for T***h, questioned details of his military service record and circumstances relating to the award of his combat medals. Their campaign against Kerry's p**********l bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.[4][5][6]

Wh**ever Kerry is those who "Swiftboated" him are a thousand times worse...
Snip>>During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2... (show quote)


((laughin))...Ho Lee Feck... all You did was copy-paste some crap from the Moaist/SJW edited Wiki-ChinKee website.

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May 7, 2018 20:57:48   #
ldsuttonjr Loc: ShangriLa
 
PeterS wrote:
Snip>>During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2004 U.S. p**********l campaign, a political issue that gained widespread public attention was Kerry's Vietnam War record. In television advertisements and a book called Unfit for Command, co-authored by John O'Neill and Jerome Corsi, the Swift Boat Veterans for T***h (SBVT), a 527 group later known as the Swift Vets and POWs for T***h, questioned details of his military service record and circumstances relating to the award of his combat medals. Their campaign against Kerry's p**********l bid received widespread publicity,[1] but was later discredited and gave rise to the neologism "swiftboating", to describe an unfair or untrue political attack.[2][3] Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.[4][5][6]

Wh**ever Kerry is those who "Swiftboated" him are a thousand times worse...
Snip>>During John Kerry's candidacy in the 2... (show quote)


peters: You're article is total BS! John kerry is a classic "gold digger!" While serving in Viet Nam a whopping less than 90 days he received minor flesh wounds while in a combat situation from the deflection of spent rounds bouncing off the side of his boat from his own rifle! He went to the clinic for bandages and demanded the Doctor right him up for the Purple Heart....the Doctor initially refused because it was not enemy fire....... Kerry pressed it, and got his medal!

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