Chocura750

Likewise if during an investigation of Trump's dealings with the Russians, a money laundering scheme is discovered shouldn't it be prosecuted. Seems a 'yes' is the obvious answer, unless it's an investigation of Trump. It is really sad to see corrupt judges using their courtrooms for political purposes. One would believe the system is r****d.

Kevyn

Of course, let’s for arguments sake say that in his investigation of Russian influence on our e******n Mueller discovers that the Russians dodged sanctions by laundering money through the Trump organization. While this might not be collusion to rig the e******n it is clearly racketeering and should prosecuted under RICO. Does anyone really think the Pumpkinfuhrer would be in such a panic if he had nothing to hide?

JW

The problem with your analogy is that the "investigation" isn't to solve a crime but rather, to look to find if one actually occurred. Since when do we authorize government to invade a citizen's life, harass his associates and destroy his friends when no crime has been charged?

Further, since when do we find political views being treated as criminal activity?

If you Lefties think this behavior has any place in a free society, you really don't understand America.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

JW. They really don't understand America.

pafret Loc: Northeast

Did you really expect anything else from Chocco and Kevyn? It is remarkable how willing they are to have those they disagree with subjected to such persecution while excusing their own ilk with statements like 'she didn't intend that' or blatant denials of reality. Progressivism is truly a mental deficiency.

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

He's in nowhere near the panic that Hillary is in & she might bring down Barack.

Chocura750

Investigations are done all the time without a crime being charged or be the subject of the investigation. The most famous are the McCarthy hearings. Maybe also the Watergate hearings is so far as Nixon is concerned.

woodguru

They had Nixon so he resigned and then was pardoned to cap it off, I don't think Trump will get that free pass

woodguru

Oh he's worried, make no mistake about that...

Money laundering
tax evasion/fraud
doing business with Russian criminals
taking loans from said criminals

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

LOL.

If the investigation/prosecution is a ruse to flip a person to testify falsely against someone that they can't find any legitimate evidence, then the prosecution is illegitimate.

This isn't a banana republic.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

No, he's right. He has a fraudulent charge occur on his credit card and he disputes it, so we should go through his injury financial records and tax to look for anything else! Yes, absolutely!

JW

You really don't get it, do you. When the McCarthy, House Un-American Activities Committee Hearings, were held, we were actively under attack by Comintern and its successors. FURTHERMORE, it was American Liberals who decried and condemned McCarthy for his methods. Now you applaud Mueller using the same?

Watergate was the investigation of a crime. It was the burglary of the Democrat headquarters.

In any case, Congressional hearings are not criminal investigations. Mueller's title is special counsel, a prosector, not special investigator; what is he prosecuting? Even if collusion with the Russians by the Trump campaign did occur, it's not a crime under US criminal codes.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Yep, Hillary definitely laundered a ton of donations through the Clinton Foundation, donations even came from the governments of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Algeria, Kuwait, Oman, UAE, Bahrain, Australia, Norway and the Dominican Republic. The Clinton Foundation did not disclose her foreign donations.

While Clinton was secretary of state, her department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors. That figure from Clinton's three full fiscal years in office is almost double the value of arms sales to those countries during the same period of President George W. Bush's second term.

The Clinton-led State Department also authorized $151 billion of separate Pentagon-brokered deals for 16 of the countries that gave to the Clinton Foundation. That was a 143 percent increase in completed sales to those nations over the same time frame during the Bush administration. The 143 percent increase in U.S. arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors compares to an 80 percent increase in such sales to all countries over the same time period.

... cash connections between the Clintons and participants in the State Department’s failed five-year effort to improve, or “reset,” US-Russia relations during Hillary’s reign as secretary of state.

Key players in a main component of the reset — a Moscow-based Silicon Valley-styled campus for developing biomed, space, nuclear and IT technologies called “Skolkovo” — poured tens of millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation.

As the Obama administration’s top diplomat, Hillary Clinton was at the center of US efforts on the reset in general and Skolkovo in particular.

Of the 28 US, European and Russian companies that participated in Skolkovo, 17 of them were Clinton Foundation donors or sponsored speeches by former President Bill Clinton.

woodguru

How about if they testify and it is the t***h in terms of what they know for a fact Trump did or was involved in?

You that is going to automatically call everything false can't possibly know.

Trump is playing a game of ignorance, saying he didn't know so the prosecution has to prove it. If he is being looked at for something another person knows first hand happened that can substantiate it, meaning not only does their testimony hold but has other corroborating evidence. If Trump says he knew nothing about an act of collaboration where details were discussed at a meeting with several other people, and they all say Trump had to have heard it, I don't remember is not going to do the job.

If Cohen went to Prague to meet with Russian hackers, during the campaign, and he says he was doing business on behalf of either Trump or the campaign, that might not be good enough. But put that together with emails or conversations with the parties involved in brokering deals and the case takes on a weight that is more than just the word of a person who might have been pressured into false corroboration. You can bet Mueller is operating on a level of just such evidence that backs other evidence. Apparently such evidence already exists with Cohen or he never would have gotten a search warrant designed to get further corroborating evidence.

This isn't the bush league here, evidence has to be beyond suspicion because of the attitude of the right. We aren't going to see weak or fabricated evidence or cooked up testimonies. The right already knows this, and is rolling out the attacks on the investigation and investigators, it's very clear that we are dealing with dirty people that Trump surrounded himself with, and dirty people will take down the head.

Trump has virtually no loyalty for anyone else, they know it, and it isn't going to be that big a stretch to see Trump staffers being indicted and willing to testify about everything they know for reduced time. The ones most worried have to be the ones who are dirty who haven't been called on, but people related to their crimes were. Mueller doesn't need them, they will have full on charges and sentences brought on with no breaks. We could easily be seeing as many as 100 or more people being charged with crimes.

woodguru

Hillary is not the one on the hot seat, Trump is.

Had Hillary won Congress already had letters of impeachment ready to roll, she'd have never gotten out from under endless Gowdy led hearings.

Hillary didn't win, T***p w*n the honor of having his past and campaign dealings with Russians under a microscope. It is very unlikely that he will survive that. If dirt exists the FBI will find it, and they already had the dirt before Trump ever took office. This should have come out during the campaign but Obama was afraid of tampering with the e******n beforehand, so it remains to be seen through as to the extent of Russian meddling.

Trump, as president, should have been 100% supportive of every aspect of determining to what degree Russia meddled in our e******n. His refusal and obstruction to that concept speaks volumes.