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May 3, 2018 19:47:56   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
The new Secretary of State made a statement that America was the greatest civilization the world had ever seen, but I'm wondering - which America was he referring to?

Is it the America that wants to protect the unborn at all costs, or the one that wants to protect the right to own military weapons? I wonder, because a women can still get an a******n after jumping through a whole series of hoops - just like gun owners can get a Federal Firearms license and own as many military weapons as they wish - so - are the hoops to jump through to own military weapons just too many?

Maybe he meant the America that has the best medical care in the world, or did he mean the one where that care is only available to those that can afford it? Of course, he may have been referring to the America that believes that making a profit is preeminent, valued far above human life. That makes perfect sense - if the America he meant is the one where the poor and elderly are better off dead, better off for the rest that is.

Is it the America that believes America is only for Americans, or the one that wants to let everyone come here? Is it the one that believes that America has a right to tell everyone else what to do and how to do it, or the one that objects to being told what to do? Maybe he meant the America that believes that religious freedoms are absolute, or perhaps he meant the one that believes that only Christian religious freedoms are absolute?

It's hard to tell which America he referred to, as there are at least 300,000,000 opinions on the matter. Is it the Democrats America or the Republicans America? Is it the Liberals America or the Conservatives America, or the Progressives America, or the Evangelicals America......................or is it the America of all the above?

The sad fact is, as long as we continue to fight over WHO's America it is, rather than accepting that is ALL of ours...........we can NOT in fact...........claim to be the greatest civilization the world has ever seen...........unless we specify WHICH America we're referring to.

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May 3, 2018 20:27:33   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The new Secretary of State made a statement that America was the greatest civilization the world had ever seen, but I'm wondering - which America was he referring to?

Is it the America that wants to protect the unborn at all costs, or the one that wants to protect the right to own military weapons? I wonder, because a women can still get an a******n after jumping through a whole series of hoops - just like gun owners can get a Federal Firearms license and own as many military weapons as they wish - so - are the hoops to jump through to own military weapons just too many?

Maybe he meant the America that has the best medical care in the world, or did he mean the one where that care is only available to those that can afford it? Of course, he may have been referring to the America that believes that making a profit is preeminent, valued far above human life. That makes perfect sense - if the America he meant is the one where the poor and elderly are better off dead, better off for the rest that is.

Is it the America that believes America is only for Americans, or the one that wants to let everyone come here? Is it the one that believes that America has a right to tell everyone else what to do and how to do it, or the one that objects to being told what to do? Maybe he meant the America that believes that religious freedoms are absolute, or perhaps he meant the one that believes that only Christian religious freedoms are absolute?

It's hard to tell which America he referred to, as there are at least 300,000,000 opinions on the matter. Is it the Democrats America or the Republicans America? Is it the Liberals America or the Conservatives America, or the Progressives America, or the Evangelicals America......................or is it the America of all the above?

The sad fact is, as long as we continue to fight over WHO's America it is, rather than accepting that is ALL of ours...........we can NOT in fact...........claim to be the greatest civilization the world has ever seen...........unless we specify WHICH America we're referring to.
The new Secretary of State made a statement that A... (show quote)


Funny but in your comment, America of all of the above, every one of the people you speak of either carry a gun at all times or have armed security around them 24-7.
The People who are strongly pro life carry, or have guns close at hand because of the threats they receive because of their beliefs, and the endless hoops you speak of are meant to make it harder for common non carrying gun owners to protect themselves.
So I would have to say that the creation of our sovereign nation was enabled by the fact that without gun ownership America as we know it would not exist.
So thanks to the Patriots that fought for our rights, I realize that this is a Gun Owners America, and more power to them. LITERALLY!
IT IS the Anti-Americans, you know, the ones who fight daily, and Lobby Strongly to strip us of our freedom and scream political correctness, diversity, inclusiveness, and strive to Fundamentally Change America
These are the ones we need to watch, and these are the ones who should be stripped of all weapons, from butter knives to shot guns! And then we will find the peace and security of which you speak
I firmly belive that we can Make America Great Again. And I thank God For having Mr. TRUMP as our leader to accomplish this task!
Keep it up Mr. TRUMP.And God Bless Him in every way.

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May 3, 2018 20:34:23   #
glibona Loc: Nevada
 
Weasel wrote:
Funny but in your comment, America of all of the above, every one of the people you speak of either carry a gun at all times or have armed security around them 24-7.
The People who are strongly pro life carry, or have guns close at hand because of the threats they receive because of their beliefs, and the endless hoops you speak of are meant to make it harder for common non carrying gun owners to protect themselves.
So I would have to say that the creation of our sovereign nation was enabled by the fact that without gun ownership America as we know it would not exist.
So thanks to the Patriots that fought for our rights, I realize that this is a Gun Owners America, and more power to them. LITERALLY!
IT IS the Anti-Americans, you know, the ones who fight daily, and Lobby Strongly to strip us of our freedom and scream political correctness, diversity, inclusiveness, and strive to Fundamentally Change America
These are the ones we need to watch, and these are the ones who should be stripped of all weapons, from butter knives to shot guns! And then we will find the peace and security of which you speak
I firmly belive that we can Make America Great Again. And I thank God For having Mr. TRUMP as our leader to accomplish this task!
Keep it up Mr. TRUMP.And God Bless Him in every way.
Funny but in your comment, America of all of the a... (show quote)


Amen...spot on post!

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May 3, 2018 21:32:25   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring to the America where people get up every day, go to work, pay their taxes and just raise their families. The people that are working pay check to pay check, knowing they will never make a profit. The common people that donate to people all over the world. The common people that have to bear arms to protect not only themselves but livestock. Side note, please explain what you mean by military weapon. Give me one example of a military style weapon that a person can go into a Wal-Mart or any sporting good, gun show and buy right off the shelf. Maybe the common people that sometimes have to make a personal choice when it comes to a******n. People can not be put into neat tiny little slots. This is not about politics or party. Maybe he is referring to the just the common American. Yes, some may be illegal. Which is fine. If they are helping to build this America. At sixty-three I know that my America is gone. Will never be the same again. That doesn't mean that I can't try to pass what I have learned in my life to try to make a better America. Maybe he is just saying that we have to get over all this bulls**t.
lpnmajor wrote:
The new Secretary of State made a statement that America was the greatest civilization the world had ever seen, but I'm wondering - which America was he referring to?

Is it the America that wants to protect the unborn at all costs, or the one that wants to protect the right to own military weapons? I wonder, because a women can still get an a******n after jumping through a whole series of hoops - just like gun owners can get a Federal Firearms license and own as many military weapons as they wish - so - are the hoops to jump through to own military weapons just too many?

Maybe he meant the America that has the best medical care in the world, or did he mean the one where that care is only available to those that can afford it? Of course, he may have been referring to the America that believes that making a profit is preeminent, valued far above human life. That makes perfect sense - if the America he meant is the one where the poor and elderly are better off dead, better off for the rest that is.

Is it the America that believes America is only for Americans, or the one that wants to let everyone come here? Is it the one that believes that America has a right to tell everyone else what to do and how to do it, or the one that objects to being told what to do? Maybe he meant the America that believes that religious freedoms are absolute, or perhaps he meant the one that believes that only Christian religious freedoms are absolute?

It's hard to tell which America he referred to, as there are at least 300,000,000 opinions on the matter. Is it the Democrats America or the Republicans America? Is it the Liberals America or the Conservatives America, or the Progressives America, or the Evangelicals America......................or is it the America of all the above?

The sad fact is, as long as we continue to fight over WHO's America it is, rather than accepting that is ALL of ours...........we can NOT in fact...........claim to be the greatest civilization the world has ever seen...........unless we specify WHICH America we're referring to.
The new Secretary of State made a statement that A... (show quote)

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May 3, 2018 22:16:02   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring to the America where people get up every day, go to work, pay their taxes and just raise their families. The people that are working pay check to pay check, knowing they will never make a profit. The common people that donate to people all over the world. The common people that have to bear arms to protect not only themselves but livestock. Side note, please explain what you mean by military weapon. Give me one example of a military style weapon that a person can go into a Wal-Mart or any sporting good, gun show and buy right off the shelf. Maybe the common people that sometimes have to make a personal choice when it comes to a******n. People can not be put into neat tiny little slots. This is not about politics or party. Maybe he is referring to the just the common American. Yes, some may be illegal. Which is fine. If they are helping to build this America. At sixty-three I know that my America is gone. Will never be the same again. That doesn't mean that I can't try to pass what I have learned in my life to try to make a better America. Maybe he is just saying that we have to get over all this bulls**t.
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring... (show quote)


No, I think it more Sinister than that.
This is the kind of crap that tore this Country apart to begin with.
I am also middle aged myself. I remember a different world growing up, and this kind of Anti-American activity would have had the true FBI Putting you under the microscope!
But that was back when J. Edgar Hoover was watching over our Country. And no one questioned the Greatness Of America.
No Political Bull S**t Here!
I have yet to give up on our United States, and I hope that you are not weakening in your beliefs.
You are starting to worry me.
Keep the Faith Pops.

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May 3, 2018 22:21:48   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Weasel wrote:
No, I think it more Sinister than that.
This is the kind of crap that tore this Country apart to begin with.
I am also middle aged myself. I remember a different world growing up, and this kind of Anti-American activity would have had the true FBI Putting you under the microscope!
But that was back when J. Edgar Hoover was watching over our Country. And no one questioned the Greatness Of America.
No Political Bull S**t Here!
I have yet to give up on our United States, and I hope that you are not weakening in your beliefs.
You are starting to worry me.
Keep the Faith Pops.
No, I think it more Sinister than that. br This i... (show quote)

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May 3, 2018 23:01:54   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
I know it is. Yes this is what tore this country apart, and will again. Are we ready ? I spent thirty-eight years serving this great nation. Been through two wars and missions all over the world. Would I do it again, Hell Yeah. The point I was trying to make is that each person, each family has to make choices. It doesn't come from D.C. . It doesn't come from a central government. It comes from American families making the choices they have to make without government. Please don't doubt my belief in America, because I believe in the American people. D.C. is our enemy. My musket is ready, my powder is dry. If anyone wants to understand my Avatar and how I think. YouTube, Outlaw Jose Wales. Best scene. Ten Bears. This is the grit, the bottom line of people living together. If there is anyone that can't understand this dialog, then their ears and hearts are frozen.
Weasel wrote:
No, I think it more Sinister than that.
This is the kind of crap that tore this Country apart to begin with.
I am also middle aged myself. I remember a different world growing up, and this kind of Anti-American activity would have had the true FBI Putting you under the microscope!
But that was back when J. Edgar Hoover was watching over our Country. And no one questioned the Greatness Of America.
No Political Bull S**t Here!
I have yet to give up on our United States, and I hope that you are not weakening in your beliefs.
You are starting to worry me.
Keep the Faith Pops.
No, I think it more Sinister than that. br This i... (show quote)

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May 4, 2018 07:14:27   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
lpnmajor wrote:
The new Secretary of State made a statement that America was the greatest civilization the world had ever seen, but I'm wondering - which America was he referring to?

Is it the America that wants to protect the unborn at all costs, or the one that wants to protect the right to own military weapons? I wonder, because a women can still get an a******n after jumping through a whole series of hoops - just like gun owners can get a Federal Firearms license and own as many military weapons as they wish - so - are the hoops to jump through to own military weapons just too many?

Maybe he meant the America that has the best medical care in the world, or did he mean the one where that care is only available to those that can afford it? Of course, he may have been referring to the America that believes that making a profit is preeminent, valued far above huuuuman life. That makes perfect sense - if the America he meant is the one where the poor and elderly are better off dead, better off for the rest that is.

Is it the America that believes America is only for Americans, or the one that wants to let everyone come here? Is it the one that believes that America has a right to tell everyone else what to do and how to do it, or the one that objects to being told what to do? Maybe he meant the America that believes that religious freedoms are absolute, or perhaps he meant the one that believes that only Christian religious freedoms are absolute?

It's hard to tell which America he referred to, as there are at least 300,000,000 opinions on the matter. Is it the Democrats America or the Republicans America? Is it the Liberals America or the Conservatives America, or the Progressives America, or the Evangelicals America......................or is it the America of all the above?

The sad fact is, as long as we continue to fight over WHO's America it is, rather than accepting that is ALL of ours...........we can NOT in fact...........claim to be the greatest civilization the world has ever seen...........unless we specify WHICH America we're referring to.
The new Secretary of State made a statement that A... (show quote)

He is probably speaking of the original America our forefathers conceived.

Not the Demon-Rats version of America based on socialist or commonest doctrine.

Semper Fi America
God bless America and President Trump

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May 4, 2018 07:16:54   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
Weasel wrote:
Funny but in your comment, America of all of the above, every one of the people you speak of either carry a gun at all times or have armed security around them 24-7.
The People who are strongly pro life carry, or have guns close at hand because of the threats they receive because of their beliefs, and the endless hoops you speak of are meant to make it harder for common non carrying gun owners to protect themselves.
So I would have to say that the creation of our sovereign nation was enabled by the fact that without gun ownership America as we know it would not exist.
So thanks to the Patriots that fought for our rights, I realize that this is a Gun Owners America, and more power to them. LITERALLY!
IT IS the Anti-Americans, you know, the ones who fight daily, and Lobby Strongly to strip us of our freedom and scream political correctness, diversity, inclusiveness, and strive to Fundamentally Change America
These are the ones we need to watch, and these are the ones who should be stripped of all weapons, from butter knives to shot guns! And then we will find the peace and security of which you speak
I firmly belive that we can Make America Great Again. And I thank God For having Mr. TRUMP as our leader to accomplish this task!
Keep it up Mr. TRUMP.And God Bless Him in every way.
Funny but in your comment, America of all of the a... (show quote)




Well spoken.

Semper Fi America
God bless America and President Trump

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May 4, 2018 07:20:00   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring to the America where people get up every day, go to work, pay their taxes and just raise their families. The people that are working pay check to pay check, knowing they will never make a profit. The common people that donate to people all over the world. The common people that have to bear arms to protect not only themselves but livestock. Side note, please explain what you mean by military weapon. Give me one example of a military style weapon that a person can go into a Wal-Mart or any sporting good, gun show and buy right off the shelf. Maybe the common people that sometimes have to make a personal choice when it comes to a******n. People can not be put into neat tiny little slots. This is not about politics or party. Maybe he is referring to the just the common American. Yes, some may be illegal. Which is fine. If they are helping to build this America. At sixty-three I know that my America is gone. Will never be the same again. That doesn't mean that I can't try to pass what I have learned in my life to try to make a better America. Maybe he is just saying that we have to get over all this bulls**t.
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring... (show quote)


Spoken like a real true American.

Semper Fi brother.
God bless America and President Trump

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May 4, 2018 07:25:19   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
I know it is. Yes this is what tore this country apart, and will again. Are we ready ? I spent thirty-eight years serving this great nation. Been through two wars and missions all over the world. Would I do it again, Hell Yeah. The point I was trying to make is that each person, each family has to make choices. It doesn't come from D.C. . It doesn't come from a central government. It comes from American families making the choices they have to make without government. Please don't doubt my belief in America, because I believe in the American people. D.C. is our enemy. My musket is ready, my powder is dry. If anyone wants to understand my Avatar and how I think. YouTube, Outlaw Jose Wales. Best scene. Ten Bears. This is the grit, the bottom line of people living together. If there is anyone that can't understand this dialog, then their ears and hearts are frozen.
I know it is. Yes this is what tore this country a... (show quote)

My favorite also. Jose Wales told Ten Bears just how it is and going to be.

God bless our true American patriots.
Semper Fi brother
God bless America and President Trump

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May 4, 2018 09:25:14   #
currahee
 
I want an America where there is freedom of opportunity and not "freedom of outcome." I want an America defined by one language, one culture and borders. I want an America where democracy is governed by a Republic. I want an America where the Republic legislates the "rule of law" concept that says you are innocent of a criminal action until proven to be guilty by way of concrete evidence and not merely intent. I want an America where the government is small and stays out of the marketplace, thereby letting competition rule. I want an America where the law will protect an unborn baby from being murdered upon the "altar of his/her mother's guilt-trip." I want an America where the law is on the side of America and the criminals who leak our secrets will suffer the consequences for their t*****rous activity.

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May 4, 2018 16:54:29   #
maryjane
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring to the America where people get up every day, go to work, pay their taxes and just raise their families. The people that are working pay check to pay check, knowing they will never make a profit. The common people that donate to people all over the world. The common people that have to bear arms to protect not only themselves but livestock. Side note, please explain what you mean by military weapon. Give me one example of a military style weapon that a person can go into a Wal-Mart or any sporting good, gun show and buy right off the shelf. Maybe the common people that sometimes have to make a personal choice when it comes to a******n. People can not be put into neat tiny little slots. This is not about politics or party. Maybe he is referring to the just the common American. Yes, some may be illegal. Which is fine. If they are helping to build this America. At sixty-three I know that my America is gone. Will never be the same again. That doesn't mean that I can't try to pass what I have learned in my life to try to make a better America. Maybe he is just saying that we have to get over all this bulls**t.
Cut all the political s**t. Maybe he was referring... (show quote)


Or maybe he was thinking of the America that used to be, the America before the left, antiAmerica folks took over control of the country and invited the world's third world nations to sebd their poorest/uneducated/unsk**led citizens to invade the USA.

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May 4, 2018 17:07:47   #
maryjane
 
currahee wrote:
I want an America where there is freedom of opportunity and not "freedom of outcome." I want an America defined by one language, one culture and borders. I want an America where democracy is governed by a Republic. I want an America where the Republic legislates the "rule of law" concept that says you are innocent of a criminal action until proven to be guilty by way of concrete evidence and not merely intent. I want an America where the government is small and stays out of the marketplace, thereby letting competition rule. I want an America where the law will protect an unborn baby from being murdered upon the "altar of his/her mother's guilt-trip." I want an America where the law is on the side of America and the criminals who leak our secrets will suffer the consequences for their t*****rous activity.
I want an America where there is freedom of opport... (show quote)


And an America that highly prizes its national identity and its citizenship. An America that stands strong and never would allow itself to be used, abused and exploited like Mexico does. An America that takes care of itself and its own first always. An America that doesn't meddle in the business of other nations, but, also, keeps them out of ours. An America that knows and accepts that it cannot be saviour to the world nor policeman of the world. An America that remembers and respects that it was conceived, developed and built by white European peoples. An America that recognizes and accepts that, though it was built and developed by immigrants, it, today, should not still be a nation of immigrants, that immigrants today often harm instead of helping the USA.

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May 4, 2018 19:21:53   #
old marine Loc: America home of the brave
 
currahee wrote:
I want an America where there is freedom of opportunity and not "freedom of outcome." I want an America defined by one language, one culture and borders. I want an America where democracy is governed by a Republic. I want an America where the Republic legislates the "rule of law" concept that says you are innocent of a criminal action until proven to be guilty by way of concrete evidence and not merely intent. I want an America where the government is small and stays out of the marketplace, thereby letting competition rule. I want an America where the law will protect an unborn baby from being murdered upon the "altar of his/her mother's guilt-trip." I want an America where the law is on the side of America and the criminals who leak our secrets will suffer the consequences for their t*****rous activity.
I want an America where there is freedom of opport... (show quote)

That was what our great country was all about, faithfulness, honor, love of country up until 1948 when the Demon-Rats party assumed the commonest party's agenda.

Some where along in the 1970's they started leaning to a socialist anti God party. Now their agenda is money, money and more money. Then America's taxpayers dollars started dissapearing by the billions.

America couldn't stand another four more years so they elected a man who knew business to stop America's plunge into oblivion. America made the right choice.

God bless America and President Trump

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