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Apr 2, 2014 08:52:44   #
Pogo Loc: New Mexico via Carolinas
 
Something in the neighborhood of 300 million of us, and 7 million enrolled is noteworthy? Must be the "new math."

The greater question, if this abysmal failure warrants any further questions, is "How many have actually paid their premiums?"

Liberty Tree wrote:
Well according to Obama the magic number of 7 million enrolled has just been reached. Anyone surprised? It is just like right before the 2012 e******n the unemployment rate suddenly dropped below 8%. Between now and Novemeber we will be fed a whole bucketload of false economic data. Here is what we do not know about Obamacare enrollment:

1. How many have enrolled? The 7.1 million is given us by Obama without any independent evaluation.
2. How many previously uninsured are now insured? Most of those who have "enrolled" have done so as reenrollees in Medicaid or did so because they lost their insurance because of Obamacare demands. In North Carolina only 13% of those previously uninsured are now insured.
3. How many are now paying more than before for insurance?
4. How many doctors, hospitals, and other medicall providers are opting out because of Obamacare?
5. What is the real cost to the American taxpayer for Obamcare?
6. What will be the impact when the employer mandate and other requirements that have been postponed kick in?
7. How many of those "enrolled" have actually paid? How many are the younger group that is needed to pay to offset the cost for the older and more sickly?

These and other questions need to be answered, but did you hear how Obama attacked media sources that might seek the t***h. Of course, all of Obama's worshipping minions who post here will go to MSNBC, The Huffington Post, the DNC, and all of their other liberal sources to get their talking points and join in the attack against anyone who does not buy this hook, line, and sinker. Obama is counting on two things. He is counting on the MSM to support all he says and they will, and he is counting on his blind koolade folowers to try and sell this to others without seeking the t***h.
Well according to Obama the magic number of 7 mill... (show quote)

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Apr 2, 2014 19:59:52   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
hobie wrote:
And YOU still believe the earth is flat!!!


Why don't you answer some of the questions put to you here? You can run your hole with the name calling and moronic bulls**t but you can't defend a position that you have not yet defined.

I will not be polite as most here are when faced with left-wing single cell stupidity...Piss on you and all who think as you do.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:39:52   #
Liberty Tree
 
CDM wrote:
Why don't you answer some of the questions put to you here? You can run your hole with the name calling and moronic bulls**t but you can't defend a position that you have not yet defined.

I will not be polite as most here are when faced with left-wing single cell stupidity...Piss on you and all who think as you do.


They have no t***hful answers so they have to resort to insults to try and divert attention away from the facts.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:58:45   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
They have no t***hful answers so they have to resort to insults to try and divert attention away from the facts.


Sad t***h...and what's really funny (odd) is that they don't understand when they are insulted. It's like Ripley dealing with the Alien; there is no communication, only terminal confrontation. One or the other must cease to exist.

Sad...But in today's world, true.

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Apr 2, 2014 20:58:45   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
CDM wrote:
President Obama said, at least 60 times in two years that the ACA would provide health care coverage for 30 to 40 million Americans who could otherwise not afford it. He said, over and over that it would be free for these people, that taxpayers would subsidize their coverage. And now we are there; D day.

Where are the 30 to 40 million? They should be beating down the doors to sign up. Where are they? 7 million is chicken feed.

Can you string together one or two intelligent thoughts to respond or should I just go hang from a limb and eat my banana?
President Obama said, at least 60 times in two yea... (show quote)


Has anyone bothered to determine where the number of thirty million "uninsured" came from?

You may say, "No, AuntiE. Could you provide some insight?" Why, yes, I can.

The Census provided the information. In their survey/calculations, they utilized approximately six thousand or more i*****l i*******ts; a segment of the population who lost their insurance through loss of job (but failed to mention most were reinsured within three to six months) and people who could afford insurance (but chose not to purchase any) and individuals with pre-existing conditions who could not afford it. The actual number of people who were insured was substantially less then thirty million when you remove the i*****l i*******ts and individuals who,became reinsured within a short period of time. The target number for the ACA has been seven million, because that was the actual number of individuals uninsured and wishing to have insurance.

If you needed to renovate your kitchen, would you tear down your whole house to do so? Basically the entire health insurance law tore down the house to renovate the kitchen.

As a final note, health insurance IS NOT HEALTH CARE! :!:

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Apr 2, 2014 21:01:38   #
Liberty Tree
 
AuntiE wrote:
Has anyone bothered to determine where the number of thirty million "uninsured" came from?

You may say, "No, AuntiE. Could you provide some insight?" Why, yes, I can.

The Census provided the information. In their survey/calculations, they utilized approximately six thousand or more i*****l i*******ts; a segment of the population who lost their insurance through loss of job (but failed to mention most were reinsured within three to six months) and people who could afford insurance (but chose not to purchase any) and individuals with pre-existing conditions who could not afford it. The actual number of people who were insured was substantially less then thirty million when you remove the i*****l i*******ts and individuals who,became reinsured within a short period of time. The target number for the ACA has been seven million, because that was the actual number of individuals uninsured and wishing to have insurance.

If you needed to renovate your kitchen, would you tear down your whole house to do so? Basically the entire health insurance law tore down the house to renovate the kitchen.

As a final note, health insurance IS NOT HEALTH CARE! :!:
Has anyone bothered to determine where the number ... (show quote)


The 30 million came from the same place as all of their other numbers. They made it up to suit the sales pitch of the day.

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Apr 2, 2014 21:02:55   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
The 30 million came from the same place as all of their other numbers. They made it up to suit the sales pitch of the day.


I gave you the answer. Read it.

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Apr 2, 2014 21:04:07   #
bobgssc
 
CDM wrote:
So any guess why the other 23 million have not signed up for their 'free' health care?


Because they are intelligent enough to know what a bad plan it really is? I'd be happy to hear your opinion. Again, there are definitely those individuals who will benefit from the program; however, admitting this doesn't make the program good. Look at how many people benefit from welfare... off the backs of the working class of America!

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Apr 2, 2014 21:04:29   #
Liberty Tree
 
AuntiE wrote:
I gave you the answer. Read it.


I did and it make sense, but I also know they will make up numbers as well.

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Apr 2, 2014 21:10:00   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
I did and it make sense, but I also know they will make up numbers as well.


In this instance the Census Bureau used accurate numbers, just in a way to provide the number being sought. Had I not completed a massive shredding over the weekend, I would still have the exact numerical breakdown. This is what I get for clearing out TONS of paper. :shock:

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Apr 2, 2014 21:12:17   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
AuntiE wrote:
Has anyone bothered to determine where the number of thirty million "uninsured" came from?

You may say, "No, AuntiE. Could you provide some insight?" Why, yes, I can.

The Census provided the information. In their survey/calculations, they utilized approximately six thousand or more i*****l i*******ts; a segment of the population who lost their insurance through loss of job (but failed to mention most were reinsured within three to six months) and people who could afford insurance (but chose not to purchase any) and individuals with pre-existing conditions who could not afford it. The actual number of people who were insured was substantially less then thirty million when you remove the i*****l i*******ts and individuals who,became reinsured within a short period of time. The target number for the ACA has been seven million, because that was the actual number of individuals uninsured and wishing to have insurance.

If you needed to renovate your kitchen, would you tear down your whole house to do so? Basically the entire health insurance law tore down the house to renovate the kitchen.

As a final note, health insurance IS NOT HEALTH CARE! :!:
Has anyone bothered to determine where the number ... (show quote)


Oh Auntie Em, you mean we're not in Kansas anymore? Well spoken. If the ACA were real there would be hundreds of millions enrolled. As you say, it is not about health care in any form; it's about controlling a population...it's about taking money from individuals and giving it to parasites, pre-paid v**ers; socialist-c*******t wastes of sperm.

Remember, v**e early and v**e often...even if you are dead...

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Apr 2, 2014 21:16:29   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
CDM wrote:
Oh Auntie Em, you mean we're not in Kansas anymore? Well spoken. If the ACA were real there would be hundreds of millions enrolled. As you say, it is not about health care in any form; it's about controlling a population...it's about taking money from individuals and giving it to parasites, pre-paid v**ers; socialist-c*******t wastes of sperm.

Remember, v**e early and v**e often...even if you are dead...


I was compelled to put out my last sentence in. I am just so enamored :hunf: NOT, with the interchanging of the phrase "health insurance" for "health care". They are two separate things.

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Apr 2, 2014 23:16:43   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
bobgssc wrote:
Because they are intelligent enough to know what a bad plan it really is? I'd be happy to hear your opinion. Again, there are definitely those individuals who will benefit from the program; however, admitting this doesn't make the program good. Look at how many people benefit from welfare... off the backs of the working class of America!


I am being somewhat rhetorical. You hit it on the head; even with subsidies the deductibles per incident per person k**ls the whole concept right out of the gate.

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Apr 3, 2014 13:05:05   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
With my own eyes I am witnessing the end of America . And as we speak I am sharpening my swords.


You and me both..... :thumbup:

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