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For me, it seems I have just two choices with his Tweeter rants: he is unhinged or he is calculating...and a third, he is from NYC
Apr 28, 2018 17:21:02   #
rumitoid
 
Party differences may help to persuade either way, yet I am beginning to note some New York humor and in-your-face chutzpah.

I had been living in NM for two years when I returned to Rockaway Beach, Queens, for my sister's wedding in 1986, my younger brother and I staying at her house. One day Bernie (Bernadette) and I went into the city just to be in the city, but on the list of things to do was the 2nd Avenue Jewish Deli; we had been there before together once in '66. NM is not a Food state. Yes, they have food but it is not food by NYC standards. My sister quickly got her order and I stood there agog, confronted by real roast beef and corned beef and endless cheeses and breads and...I could not take it in. The guy behind the counter, with a number on his arm, asked me, "What are you a decoration? You gonna order or what?" NYC friendly banter. No offense. I stuttered but got out "A pastrami sandwich on rye, kosher pickle, and Dr. Brown Cream Soda." His response: "Next!"

To listen to Trump, someone may need to be from the City. Different form of communication style and substance. Can be very blunt, caustic, or ironic: those three choices, never really casual. And normally you are expected to exchange the same; I had been somewhat deprogrammed by NM. But in Trump's latest rant on "Fox and Friends," I heard the usual New York moxie. Sorry, I did not pick up on that sooner. To anyone else in America, hearing a somewhat typical exchange as mine in that deli might have made them think the counter person was rude or inappropriate, but not in the City. Common. You get it causally over sports, the weather, politics, and food. What would be fierce and dangerous exchanges over differences of opinions elsewhere, is the lingua franca of conversational speech in New York. Common. No offense. That's just how we tawk. Mets vs. Yankees. Pizza joints. The best delis. How to make a lasagna. (A lot of food talk there. Food seems central to a New York identity.) Best beaches (and hot dog stands). Brooklyn vs. Bronx.

Most any encounter, between strangers or friends, is highly opinionated. (And the f-word decorates, flavors, and accentuates all those opinions. "Are you f***ing kidding me," can be heard maybe a million times ever day. Or, "Unf***ing believable," the universal answer, positive or negative, to any statement. Estimates vary by borough and topic.) A strange relationship, for sure. That is Trump's background and his world. Not D.C. Approaching from that angle, we could be tawking on the subway into work, in total agreement.

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Apr 28, 2018 18:50:41   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
Party differences may help to persuade either way, yet I am beginning to note some New York humor and in-your-face chutzpah.

I had been living in NM for two years when I returned to Rockaway Beach, Queens, for my sister's wedding in 1986, my younger brother and I staying at her house. One day Bernie (Bernadette) and I went into the city just to be in the city, but on the list of things to do was the 2nd Avenue Jewish Deli; we had been there before together once in '66. NM is not a Food state. Yes, they have food but it is not food by NYC standards. My sister quickly got her order and I stood there agog, confronted by real roast beef and corned beef and endless cheeses and breads and...I could not take it in. The guy behind the counter, with a number on his arm, asked me, "What are you a decoration? You gonna order or what?" NYC friendly banter. No offense. I stuttered but got out "A pastrami sandwich on rye, kosher pickle, and Dr. Brown Cream Soda." His response: "Next!"

To listen to Trump, someone may need to be from the City. Different form of communication style and substance. Can be very blunt, caustic, or ironic: those three choices, never really casual. And normally you are expected to exchange the same; I had been somewhat deprogrammed by NM. But in Trump's latest rant on "Fox and Friends," I heard the usual New York moxie. Sorry, I did not pick up on that sooner. To anyone else in America, hearing a somewhat typical exchange as mine in that deli might have made them think the counter person was rude or inappropriate, but not in the City. Common. You get it causally over sports, the weather, politics, and food. What would be fierce and dangerous exchanges over differences of opinions elsewhere, is the lingua franca of conversational speech in New York. Common. No offense. That's just how we tawk. Mets vs. Yankees. Pizza joints. The best delis. How to make a lasagna. (A lot of food talk there. Food seems central to a New York identity.) Best beaches (and hot dog stands). Brooklyn vs. Bronx.

Most any encounter, between strangers or friends, is highly opinionated. (And the f-word decorates, flavors, and accentuates all those opinions. "Are you f***ing kidding me," can be heard maybe a million times ever day. Or, "Unf***ing believable," the universal answer, positive or negative, to any statement. Estimates vary by borough and topic.) A strange relationship, for sure. That is Trump's background and his world. Not D.C. Approaching from that angle, we could be tawking on the subway into work, in total agreement.
Party differences may help to persuade either way,... (show quote)



We don't need anymore pussiefied politicians talking crap.We finally have a president that is straight shooting and dam sure getting the job done.
And a great job at that.

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Apr 28, 2018 20:44:47   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
We don't need anymore pussiefied politicians talking crap.We finally have a president that is straight shooting and dam sure getting the job done.
And a great job at that.


OKAY, of i say so.

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Apr 28, 2018 23:22:48   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
I don't agree with you often, but on this your dead on. I'm an Alabama red-neck and I understand President Trump's style. We talk the same s**t in the south but in a different way. We'll say, "well bless their heart". Which will either mean they need praying for or the person is just stupid. You don't insult the person, just have fun talkin trash. His style is what is driving D.C. crazy. At the same time, in your face talk is what we want to hear finally from a President. That talk is and showing other counties that this boy from NY, and on the street if you say something, better be able to back it up. Same way back home in the hills.
rumitoid wrote:
Party differences may help to persuade either way, yet I am beginning to note some New York humor and in-your-face chutzpah.

I had been living in NM for two years when I returned to Rockaway Beach, Queens, for my sister's wedding in 1986, my younger brother and I staying at her house. One day Bernie (Bernadette) and I went into the city just to be in the city, but on the list of things to do was the 2nd Avenue Jewish Deli; we had been there before together once in '66. NM is not a Food state. Yes, they have food but it is not food by NYC standards. My sister quickly got her order and I stood there agog, confronted by real roast beef and corned beef and endless cheeses and breads and...I could not take it in. The guy behind the counter, with a number on his arm, asked me, "What are you a decoration? You gonna order or what?" NYC friendly banter. No offense. I stuttered but got out "A pastrami sandwich on rye, kosher pickle, and Dr. Brown Cream Soda." His response: "Next!"

To listen to Trump, someone may need to be from the City. Different form of communication style and substance. Can be very blunt, caustic, or ironic: those three choices, never really casual. And normally you are expected to exchange the same; I had been somewhat deprogrammed by NM. But in Trump's latest rant on "Fox and Friends," I heard the usual New York moxie. Sorry, I did not pick up on that sooner. To anyone else in America, hearing a somewhat typical exchange as mine in that deli might have made them think the counter person was rude or inappropriate, but not in the City. Common. You get it causally over sports, the weather, politics, and food. What would be fierce and dangerous exchanges over differences of opinions elsewhere, is the lingua franca of conversational speech in New York. Common. No offense. That's just how we tawk. Mets vs. Yankees. Pizza joints. The best delis. How to make a lasagna. (A lot of food talk there. Food seems central to a New York identity.) Best beaches (and hot dog stands). Brooklyn vs. Bronx.

Most any encounter, between strangers or friends, is highly opinionated. (And the f-word decorates, flavors, and accentuates all those opinions. "Are you f***ing kidding me," can be heard maybe a million times ever day. Or, "Unf***ing believable," the universal answer, positive or negative, to any statement. Estimates vary by borough and topic.) A strange relationship, for sure. That is Trump's background and his world. Not D.C. Approaching from that angle, we could be tawking on the subway into work, in total agreement.
Party differences may help to persuade either way,... (show quote)

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Apr 28, 2018 23:31:16   #
Anigav6969
 
rumitoid wrote:
Party differences may help to persuade either way, yet I am beginning to note some New York humor and in-your-face chutzpah.

I had been living in NM for two years when I returned to Rockaway Beach, Queens, for my sister's wedding in 1986, my younger brother and I staying at her house. One day Bernie (Bernadette) and I went into the city just to be in the city, but on the list of things to do was the 2nd Avenue Jewish Deli; we had been there before together once in '66. NM is not a Food state. Yes, they have food but it is not food by NYC standards. My sister quickly got her order and I stood there agog, confronted by real roast beef and corned beef and endless cheeses and breads and...I could not take it in. The guy behind the counter, with a number on his arm, asked me, "What are you a decoration? You gonna order or what?" NYC friendly banter. No offense. I stuttered but got out "A pastrami sandwich on rye, kosher pickle, and Dr. Brown Cream Soda." His response: "Next!"

To listen to Trump, someone may need to be from the City. Different form of communication style and substance. Can be very blunt, caustic, or ironic: those three choices, never really casual. And normally you are expected to exchange the same; I had been somewhat deprogrammed by NM. But in Trump's latest rant on "Fox and Friends," I heard the usual New York moxie. Sorry, I did not pick up on that sooner. To anyone else in America, hearing a somewhat typical exchange as mine in that deli might have made them think the counter person was rude or inappropriate, but not in the City. Common. You get it causally over sports, the weather, politics, and food. What would be fierce and dangerous exchanges over differences of opinions elsewhere, is the lingua franca of conversational speech in New York. Common. No offense. That's just how we tawk. Mets vs. Yankees. Pizza joints. The best delis. How to make a lasagna. (A lot of food talk there. Food seems central to a New York identity.) Best beaches (and hot dog stands). Brooklyn vs. Bronx.

Most any encounter, between strangers or friends, is highly opinionated. (And the f-word decorates, flavors, and accentuates all those opinions. "Are you f***ing kidding me," can be heard maybe a million times ever day. Or, "Unf***ing believable," the universal answer, positive or negative, to any statement. Estimates vary by borough and topic.) A strange relationship, for sure. That is Trump's background and his world. Not D.C. Approaching from that angle, we could be tawking on the subway into work, in total agreement.
Party differences may help to persuade either way,... (show quote)


Well, Coming from someone born and raised in NYC...and still live and work in NY, Trump is mostly known as a conman...a cheap conman....I watched him turn the Taj Mahal into a s##t hole.....I agree that NY'ers are more direct...but pretty street smart also....they see Trump and laugh at him....he's just a clown that conned people from elsewhere in the Country

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Apr 29, 2018 10:09:32   #
vernon
 
Anigav6969 wrote:
Well, Coming from someone born and raised in NYC...and still live and work in NY, Trump is mostly known as a conman...a cheap conman....I watched him turn the Taj Mahal into a s##t hole.....I agree that NY'ers are more direct...but pretty street smart also....they see Trump and laugh at him....he's just a clown that conned people from elsewhere in the Country



Did you v**e for that c*******t arse hole that you people call the mayor?

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Apr 29, 2018 11:31:42   #
Anigav6969
 
vernon wrote:
Did you v**e for that c*******t arse hole that you people call the mayor?


I presently live 30 minutes north of NYC...not my mayor

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Apr 29, 2018 16:43:48   #
rumitoid
 
PLT Sarge wrote:
I don't agree with you often, but on this your dead on. I'm an Alabama red-neck and I understand President Trump's style. We talk the same s**t in the south but in a different way. We'll say, "well bless their heart". Which will either mean they need praying for or the person is just stupid. You don't insult the person, just have fun talkin trash. His style is what is driving D.C. crazy. At the same time, in your face talk is what we want to hear finally from a President. That talk is and showing other counties that this boy from NY, and on the street if you say something, better be able to back it up. Same way back home in the hills.
I don't agree with you often, but on this your dea... (show quote)


Almost any tourist's encounter with New York "style" is that we are rude and snobbish. That's true. There was a map of America on the cover of the New Yorker Magazine back in the early 70s that showed NYC blank space then Chicago and more blank space, then San Fransisco: at the time, I thought it was an accurate rendering of the country. The Army sort of changed that...and also reinforced it at times. Growing up in NYC, me from da Bronx, it was the capital of everything, center of the universe. New Jersey, just across the Hudson, was a joke. This joke explains it: Why are New Yorkers depressed? Because the light at the end of the (Lincoln) tunnel is New Jersey. Maybe that style helped bring North Korea to the bargaining table.

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Apr 29, 2018 16:45:20   #
rumitoid
 
vernon wrote:
Did you v**e for that c*******t arse hole that you people call the mayor?


I don't live in NYC anymore, but if I did, the alternative was wrong.

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