Your Tax dollars at work! Ninth U.S. Court at it again!
Apr 20, 2018 13:53:43 #
Liberal Court Appoints Prosecutor in Bid to Jail Arpaio, Overturn Trump Pardon
Liberal Court Appoints Prosecutor in Bid to Jail Arpaio, Overturn Trump Pardon
The president’s power to pardon is absolute, but that isn’t stopping a coalition of liberal activists and a liberal federal court.
The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is taking the unusual step of appointing a special prosecutor to argue that former Maricopa County, Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio’s contempt of court conviction should stand, despite being pardoned by Trump.
Arpaio was convicted in 2017 on charges of defying a federal court order to cease patrols of the U.S./Mexico border.
Trump quickly pardoned Arpaio. Liberal activists sued to overturn Arpaio’s pardon, claiming it violated their constitutional rights.
They not only want Arpaio’s conviction to remain on his record, but they also claim they can overturn the pardon in court.
The Justice Department sided with Arpaio, pointing out the president’s power to pardon in the case is unquestionable.
That’s when the court, in a 2-1 ruling, ordered a special prosecutor be appointed to argue against the pardon.
There is no precedent for such a case, and no p**********l pardon has ever been overturned in court. That’s because the Constitution unequivocally states the President “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
That means, except in cases of impeachment, the President can pardon anyone for any federal crime, such as Arpaio’s federal conviction for contempt.
While the president could be prosecuted for selling a pardon or using one to obstruct justice, the pardon itself cannot be challenged.
Only one member of the three-judge panel dissented.
Judge Richard C. Tallman, an appointee of President Clinton, wrote, “I fear the majority’s decision will be viewed as judicial imprimatur of the special prosecutor to make inappropriate, unrelated, and undoubtedly political attacks on p**********l authority. We should not be wading into that thicket.”
But that isn’t stopping liberal activists groups from suing to overturn the Constitution and imprison Arpaio in an act of political vengeance.
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Liberal Court Appoints Prosecutor in Bid to Jail Arpaio, Overturn Trump Pardon
The president’s power to pardon is absolute, but that isn’t stopping a coalition of liberal activists and a liberal federal court.
The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is taking the unusual step of appointing a special prosecutor to argue that former Maricopa County, Arizona sheriff Joe Arpaio’s contempt of court conviction should stand, despite being pardoned by Trump.
Arpaio was convicted in 2017 on charges of defying a federal court order to cease patrols of the U.S./Mexico border.
Trump quickly pardoned Arpaio. Liberal activists sued to overturn Arpaio’s pardon, claiming it violated their constitutional rights.
They not only want Arpaio’s conviction to remain on his record, but they also claim they can overturn the pardon in court.
The Justice Department sided with Arpaio, pointing out the president’s power to pardon in the case is unquestionable.
That’s when the court, in a 2-1 ruling, ordered a special prosecutor be appointed to argue against the pardon.
There is no precedent for such a case, and no p**********l pardon has ever been overturned in court. That’s because the Constitution unequivocally states the President “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.”
That means, except in cases of impeachment, the President can pardon anyone for any federal crime, such as Arpaio’s federal conviction for contempt.
While the president could be prosecuted for selling a pardon or using one to obstruct justice, the pardon itself cannot be challenged.
Only one member of the three-judge panel dissented.
Judge Richard C. Tallman, an appointee of President Clinton, wrote, “I fear the majority’s decision will be viewed as judicial imprimatur of the special prosecutor to make inappropriate, unrelated, and undoubtedly political attacks on p**********l authority. We should not be wading into that thicket.”
But that isn’t stopping liberal activists groups from suing to overturn the Constitution and imprison Arpaio in an act of political vengeance.
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Apr 20, 2018 14:07:17 #
Misuse of a pardon can have all kinds of political backlash. It's why presidents usually wait until their last week to roll out controversial pardons.
Another issue is that Trump is totally disregarding the process of properly filing and getting legal counsel, there is an entity whose job it is to review pardons.
Arpaio's was an entirely inappropriate use of a pardon considering it put the president in pure conflict with his oath to protect the constitution. This conviction was all about civil rights violations in the first place, so the president is out of step with what his job as president is.
Trump is undoubtedly going to want to pardon friends and family, so I'm surprised Trump was stupid enough to draw the attention to an abuse of that power, for a dikwad like Arpaio.
If he uses it to pardon a witness in the Russia investigation he will be challenged, he may have already stepped over that line sending messages that he "could" do such pardons. Yes he could but congress could impeach him for any reason they choose to, they need no proof of anything, just deciding that the president has gone too far on anything. Trump seems to think his powers are endless, he needs to realize that the powers of the senate and house are looser than he thinks if he goes to far.
Another issue is that Trump is totally disregarding the process of properly filing and getting legal counsel, there is an entity whose job it is to review pardons.
Arpaio's was an entirely inappropriate use of a pardon considering it put the president in pure conflict with his oath to protect the constitution. This conviction was all about civil rights violations in the first place, so the president is out of step with what his job as president is.
Trump is undoubtedly going to want to pardon friends and family, so I'm surprised Trump was stupid enough to draw the attention to an abuse of that power, for a dikwad like Arpaio.
If he uses it to pardon a witness in the Russia investigation he will be challenged, he may have already stepped over that line sending messages that he "could" do such pardons. Yes he could but congress could impeach him for any reason they choose to, they need no proof of anything, just deciding that the president has gone too far on anything. Trump seems to think his powers are endless, he needs to realize that the powers of the senate and house are looser than he thinks if he goes to far.
Apr 20, 2018 14:08:21 #
Apr 20, 2018 14:11:58 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
But that isn’t stopping liberal activists groups from suing to overturn the Constitution and imprison Arpaio in an act of political vengeance.
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But that isn’t stopping liberal activists groups from suing to overturn the Constitution and imprison Arpaio in an act of political vengeance.
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Funny how easily the right disregards the concept of Justice, Arpaio got the conviction he had coming, it was justice for multiple civil rights violations, not to mention he cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars.
Trump overturned the constitution pardoning someone who violated it in the first place. Now all of a sudden it's overturning Trump's pardon that is the violation? Please, the circular arguments and the stupid hurts.
Apr 20, 2018 14:12:12 #
woodguru wrote:
Misuse of a pardon can have all kinds of political... (show quote)
woodie: Who is going to pardon you? Just more Poppycock from you're pie hole!
Apr 20, 2018 14:12:59 #
mark medicus wrote:
we have become the new USSR, united states socialist republic...sad,very sad
Oh yeah, funny coming from the party that supports Putin and Russia directly through Trump.
Apr 20, 2018 14:15:17 #
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, funny coming from the party that supports Putin and Russia directly through Trump.
woodie: Go back to sleep!...You are boring us with you're puke!
Apr 20, 2018 14:34:08 #
Apr 20, 2018 14:36:00 #
aletha Creech wrote:
How can all these liberal courts have a right to do things like this legally?
They don't! They will have their pee pees wacked!
Apr 20, 2018 18:14:12 #
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, funny coming from the party that supports Putin and Russia directly through Trump.
You are funny. Than you for today's humor.Apr 21, 2018 05:46:23 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Liberal Court Appoints Prosecutor in Bid to Jail A... (show quote)
If I remember my civics correctly, it is likely unconstitutional because it would be a violation of the “Separation of Powers” laid out in the Constitution.
Apr 21, 2018 07:45:42 #
ldsuttonjr wrote:
Liberal Court Appoints Prosecutor in Bid to Jail A... (show quote)
List of people granted executive clemency by Barack Obama
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44th President of the United States
By the end of his presidency on January 20, 2017, Barack Obama had exercised his constitutional power to grant executive clemency—that is, "pardon, commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve"[1]—to 1,927 individuals convicted of federal crimes. Of the acts of clemency, 1,715 were commutations (including 504 life sentences) and 212 were pardons.[2] Most individuals granted executive clemency by Obama had been convicted on drug charges,[3] and had received lengthy and sometimes mandatory sentences at the height of the War on Drugs.[4]
Obama holds the record for the largest single-day use of the clemency power, granting 330 commutations on January 19, 2017, his last full day in office.[5][6] He also has issued more commutations than the past thirteen presidents combined.[2][7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_granted_executive_clemency_by_Barack_Obama
Apr 21, 2018 10:09:39 #
woodguru wrote:
Oh yeah, funny coming from the party that supports Putin and Russia directly through Trump.
Trump does not support Putin and Russia. I think you forget that Russia has atomic teeth. You better hope that those teeth are never used by either side. Common Sense tells me that it is better to engage Russia in some type of diplomacy and conversation instead of hollering all the time about how they interfered with our e*******l process. We keep forgetting how we meddle in other nations’ political processes, that includes Russia, in the world. This kind of monkey business has been going on since the beginning of the Cold War. Nations do it because they want to know what other countries are up to and how it might effect their security. If you use your brain a little, which I doubt you are cabale of doing, it might be a methodology nations use to keep the peace and the missiles in their silos.
Apr 21, 2018 12:23:27 #
,14 minutes after being sworn in flyn calls Russia and tells them sanctions will be torn up but congress stops him from doing it. Trump hires tillerson on a oil man to help put together a 500 billion dollar oil deal with russia but sanctions prevent it.
Congress passes new sanctions t***p w*n't enact them .
Trump calls Russia says I'm going to send missiles into that old air base move you people
He fires 178 million dollars worth of missiles into nothing the field was open the next morning.
How many of his people with Russian contacts 19 how many have plead guilty how many more to be tried.
It would not surprise me if trump wasn't getting a payed by Russia
quote=samtheyank]Trump does not support Putin and Russia. I think you forget that Russia has atomic teeth. You better hope that those teeth are never used by either side. Common Sense tells me that it is better to engage Russia in some type of diplomacy and conversation instead of hollering all the time about how they interfered with our e*******l process. We keep forgetting how we meddle in other nations’ political processes, that includes Russia, in the world. This kind of monkey business has been going on since the beginning of the Cold War. Nations do it because they want to know what other countries are up to and how it might effect their security. If you use your brain a little, which I doubt you are cabale of doing, it might be a methodology nations use to keep the peace and the missiles in their silos.[/quote]
Congress passes new sanctions t***p w*n't enact them .
Trump calls Russia says I'm going to send missiles into that old air base move you people
He fires 178 million dollars worth of missiles into nothing the field was open the next morning.
How many of his people with Russian contacts 19 how many have plead guilty how many more to be tried.
It would not surprise me if trump wasn't getting a payed by Russia
quote=samtheyank]Trump does not support Putin and Russia. I think you forget that Russia has atomic teeth. You better hope that those teeth are never used by either side. Common Sense tells me that it is better to engage Russia in some type of diplomacy and conversation instead of hollering all the time about how they interfered with our e*******l process. We keep forgetting how we meddle in other nations’ political processes, that includes Russia, in the world. This kind of monkey business has been going on since the beginning of the Cold War. Nations do it because they want to know what other countries are up to and how it might effect their security. If you use your brain a little, which I doubt you are cabale of doing, it might be a methodology nations use to keep the peace and the missiles in their silos.[/quote]
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