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Apr 7, 2018 20:29:32   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
How is it possible that Soros could hijack something that hasn't occurred yet? And, even if the A5 convention does take place, there is no way Soros can touch it. He would have to somehow force every state legislator, or at least a majority of them, to violate their oaths of office, and they in turn would have to corrupt the citizen delegates they choose to represent them at the convention.

The only danger an Article V convention presents is to the elitists in the federal government, who, BTW, have no say or role in the organization, conduct, or outcome of such a convention.
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Well I hope you’re right but you better start diggin into what Soros is doing in this thing... cause he’s poured $billions of his money into it with all his groups so far... so he’s up to something.

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Apr 7, 2018 20:42:12   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The ConCon on Article V, would change the whole concept of our Constitution. It would be very complicated and time consuming process, that benefits not only the GOP's but also the Democrats when the tide turns to its power.
An Article V convention of states is solely for the purpose of PROPOSING amendments to the constitution, it IS NOT a constitutional convention, it cannot alter, rewrite or change in anyway the content of the Articles in the constitution.

James Madison included the Article V amendment processes to benefit We, the People, not elected members of any political party.

It would be greatly beneficial if everyone who wants to put their 2 cents in on the Article V convention of states first read Mark Levin's very informative and educational book on this very subject.

The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic. Read this and you will be more knowledgeable about the constitution and the amendment processes than probably 90% of the members of congress. (Mark Levin was AG Ed Meese's Chief of Staff during the Reagan admin.)

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Apr 7, 2018 20:43:11   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
An Article V convention of states is solely for the purpose of PROPOSING amendments to the constitution, it IS NOT a constitutional convention, it cannot alter, rewrite or change in anyway the content of the Articles in the constitution.

James Madison included the Article V amendment processes to benefit We, the People, not elected members of any political party.

It would be greatly beneficial if everyone who wants to put their 2 cents in on the Article V convention of states first read Mark Levin's very informative and educational book on this very subject.

The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic. Read this and you will be more knowledgeable about the constitution and the amendment processes than probably 90% of the members of congress. (Mark Levin was AG Ed Meese's Chief of Staff during the Reagan admin.)
An Article V convention of states is solely for th... (show quote)


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Agreed, I will read it and get back to you.

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Apr 7, 2018 20:47:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Well I hope you’re right but you better start diggin into what Soros is doing in this thing... cause he’s poured $billions of his money into it with all his groups so far... so he’s up to something.
What thing is Soros pouring money into? C'mon man, get a grip, you're all over the freaking map with this stuff.

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Apr 7, 2018 20:52:17   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What thing is Soros pouring money into? C'mon man, get a grip, you're all over the freaking map with this stuff.


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I’ll pull it up and send it to you here, standby....

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Apr 7, 2018 20:56:27   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
What thing is Soros pouring money into? C'mon man, get a grip, you're all over the freaking map with this stuff.


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Here’s the last 3 months and I have to dig other stuff out of archives other people have actually sent me about this guy...

The Number of Radical L*****t Groups Against a Convention of States is Growing, and a Few on the Right are Duped by their ...
www.patheos.com › blogs › 2018/02 › n...
Feb 13, 2018 · The Convention of States Project is using Article V of the Constitution to save the Constitution, ... Most members of these organizations don't even know they've been duped by Soros, yet the proof ...

Blog - COSAction - Convention of States
https://conventionofstates.com › news

Convention for proposing amendments not as scary as big government advocates suggest. Published in Uncategorized on April 03, 2018 by Convention Of States. Opposition is heating up, but their stance is based on ...

Hillary Clinton and George Soros join forces against Convention of States - COSAction
https://conventionofstates.com › hillary-c...

Jan 3, 2018 · Two hundred and thirty progressive organizations have joined with l*****t media outlets, George Soros, and Hollywood to malign Convention of States. Why? They know what we know: COS has the ...

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Apr 7, 2018 21:30:28   #
teabag09
 
BR, as screwed up as things and people are now I'd be concerned. In my opinion let what is going down now continue for a while and depending what happens drop the hammer. Any move done wrong or at the wrong time could spell disaster. Mike
Blade_Runner wrote:
How is it possible that Soros could hijack something that hasn't occurred yet? And, even if the A5 convention does take place, there is no way Soros can touch it. He would have to somehow force every state legislator, or at least a majority of them, to violate their oaths of office, and they in turn would have to corrupt the citizen delegates they choose to represent them at the convention.

The only danger an Article V convention presents is to the elitists in the federal government, who, BTW, have no say or role in the organization, conduct, or outcome of such a convention.
How is it possible that Soros could hijack somethi... (show quote)

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Apr 8, 2018 04:59:11   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Well I hope you’re right but you better start diggin into what Soros is doing in this thing... cause he’s poured $billions of his money into it with all his groups so far... so he’s up to something.


Spreading propaganda would be my guess. By the way if it comes to plan C I'll bring the coffee and hard tack.

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Apr 8, 2018 05:16:31   #
Texas Truth Loc: Behind Enemy Lines
 
Signed and dated. Coffee in hand. 5:15 a.m. . Comand of quarters standing by...

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Apr 8, 2018 11:41:49   #
Sicilianthing
 
Texas T***h wrote:
Spreading propaganda would be my guess. By the way if it comes to plan C I'll bring the coffee and hard tack.


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Thank You

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Apr 8, 2018 11:42:30   #
Sicilianthing
 
Texas T***h wrote:
Signed and dated. Coffee in hand. 5:15 a.m. . Comand of quarters standing by...


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You guys in Texas seem to be way ahead of the rest of the states and I hope everyone is starting to wake up and get ready.

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Apr 8, 2018 12:01:19   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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Here’s the last 3 months and I have to dig other stuff out of archives other people have actually sent me about this guy...

The Number of Radical L*****t Groups Against a Convention of States is Growing, and a Few on the Right are Duped by their ...
www.patheos.com › blogs › 2018/02 › n...
Feb 13, 2018 · The Convention of States Project is using Article V of the Constitution to save the Constitution, ... Most members of these organizations don't even know they've been duped by Soros, yet the proof ...

Blog - COSAction - Convention of States
https://conventionofstates.com › news



Convention for proposing amendments not as scary as big government advocates suggest. Published in Uncategorized on April 03, 2018 by Convention Of States. Opposition is heating up, but their stance is based on ...

Hillary Clinton and George Soros join forces against Convention of States - COSAction
https://conventionofstates.com › hillary-c...

Jan 3, 2018 · Two hundred and thirty progressive organizations have joined with l*****t media outlets, George Soros, and Hollywood to malign Convention of States. Why? They know what we know: COS has the ...
>>>> br br Here’s the last 3 months a... (show quote)


Thanks for the links. I will check them out and get up to speed on this issue.

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Apr 8, 2018 12:02:59   #
Sicilianthing
 
ACP45 wrote:
Thanks for the links. I will check them out and get up to speed on this issue.


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Me too and I’ll find more on this stuff.

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Apr 8, 2018 12:26:17   #
Sicilianthing
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
An Article V convention of states is solely for the purpose of PROPOSING amendments to the constitution, it IS NOT a constitutional convention, it cannot alter, rewrite or change in anyway the content of the Articles in the constitution.

James Madison included the Article V amendment processes to benefit We, the People, not elected members of any political party.

It would be greatly beneficial if everyone who wants to put their 2 cents in on the Article V convention of states first read Mark Levin's very informative and educational book on this very subject.

The Liberty Amendments: Restoring the American Republic. Read this and you will be more knowledgeable about the constitution and the amendment processes than probably 90% of the members of congress. (Mark Levin was AG Ed Meese's Chief of Staff during the Reagan admin.)
An Article V convention of states is solely for th... (show quote)


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I don’t want to buy another book, just give me the short version the bullet points.

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Apr 8, 2018 12:36:03   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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I don’t want to buy another book, just give me the short version the bullet points.


Here are two Amazon reviews which are close to bullet points:
1) 5 out of 5 stars. Amending the Constitution?
August 13, 2013
Format: Hardcover|Verified Purchase
Mark Levin is a radio host and a Constitutional scholar. Invoking Article V of the Constitution, which sets out methods for amendments, Levin has proposed a number of changes to term limits, taxation, restoring states' power and more.

Currrently, states' powers have been almost completely overruled by Federal laws and mandates, debt is out of control, stretching past two generations of American's ability to pay it off. Government spending is a significant proportion of GDP and the GDP itself is stagnating; is this caused by the heavy burden of non-productive government spending? Government regulation has even gone so far as to dictate what kind of light bulb can be manufactured and sold and choices in healthcare may soon be dictated by unelected bureaucrats. For those who think that this kind of centralized power is dangerous and even tyrannical, Levin's amendments seek to address the power that the Federal government has arrogated unto itself, a power that never was the original intent of the Founding Fathers and which reduces individual liberty significantly.

Levin's amendments include:

1. Term limits, including for justices.
2. Repealing Amendment 17 and returning the e******n of senators to state legislatures
3. A congressional supermajority to override Supreme Court decisions (overruling what could be a stacked court)
4. Spending limit based on GDP
5. Taxation capped at 15%
6. Limiting the commerce clause, and strengthening private property rights
7. Power of states to override a federal statute by a three-fifths v**e.

These ideas will be opposed by those who favor central planning and a very powerful federal government, who believe that a few should decide the fate of many, who like the current system and the way it's headed. It will also be ignored by those who think that there is too much inertia to oppose the direction we're headed. It's true there are powerful forces at work fundamentally t***sforming the nation, but it's also true that there is a plurality of opinion throughout the US. For those who wonder how we've gotten to where we are presently, and how we might restore personal liberty and more localized government, where we have MORE of a say, not less, this is a very important book and worth reading and discussing.

2) 4 out of 5 starsRestoring the American Republic
April 8, 2017
Format: Kindle Edition|Verified Purchase
In The Liberty Amendments, Mark Levin develops (if not introduces) the concept of using the Article V provision of the United States Constitution to introduce amendments. The process is not unfamiliar (and has been championed in the past by men like Eisenhower and Reagan), but Levin introduces it to a modern audience. The book specifically focuses on the still-unused technique of introducing constitutional amendments through the ability of two thirds of the states to call a convention for amendments (sometimes referred to as a "constitutional convention", though this carries the incorrect connotation of then being able to re-write the constitution).

Moving past the mechanics, Mark Levin spends the majority of the book beyond the introduction proposing a series of amendments which he believes would reaffirm fading constitutional liberty. The points are well developed and it is clear that significant thought has gone into them. He continues with his unique writing style; crisp and authoritative, and always developing a narrative as if he's prosecuting a case.

While this is a powerful and important book, I reduced my rating to "four stars" because of my one criticism; that the author relied a little to heavily on past successes. Levin chose to quote HIMSELF from all three of his previous political works (Men in Black, Liberty & Tyranny, and Ameritopia) instead of re-developing the concepts.

That was the only thing which I found to be a little jarring in the writing. Otherwise, the book is highly recommended both for its writing style and its content.

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