Steve700

Yes, let's talk about ALL the facts - & - How about YOU facing the facts and admitting that Obama said that that was "[b]Irresponsible and Unpatriotic[/u] while he was campaigning and then when he became president he More Than Doubled It, in fact, putting us in further debt than every other previous president combined. . Like I keep saying, you liberals never seem to be able to say anything that I can't turn around on you, dismantle and prove as either fraudulent or nonsense.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

[quote=Steve700]How about you facing the facts and admitting that Obama said that that was "[b]Irresponsible and Unpatriotic[/u] while he was campaigning and then when he became president he More Than Doubled It, in fact, putting us in further debt than every other previous president combined. . Like I keep saying, you liberals never seem to be able to say anything that I can't turn around on you, dismantle and prove as either fraudulent or nonsense.[/quote]

Now stevie, tell us where Obama got all that money to spend?

pafret Loc: Northeast

He had it printed by his buddies at the Fed. You know, when he said the banks were too big to fail. Too bad he didn't consider how much bigger the nation was and that it too shouldn't fail.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

[quote=Steve700]Yes, let's talk about ALL the facts - & - How about YOU facing the facts and admitting that Obama said that that was "[b]Irresponsible and Unpatriotic[/u] while he was campaigning and then when he became president he More Than Doubled It, in fact, putting us in further debt than every other previous president combined. . Like I keep saying, you liberals never seem to be able to say anything that I can't turn around on you, dismantle and prove as either fraudulent or nonsense.[/quote]

You are a legend in your own mind, aren't you? You also like to fudge your statistics. Obama's budget started in FY 2010 (deficit-13.5 Tr) and ended in FY 2017 (deficit-20.2 Tr) for a difference of 7.7 Tr $. While that is a high number it is not double, nor the equivalent of all the debt of previous presidents combined.

http://www.statista.com/statistics/187867/public-debt-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

You are spouting propaganda. And not paying attention to what is happening now.

While you are busy denigrating anyone who disagrees with you, things are happening all around. For example, the CBO is about to release the deficit projection for Mr. Trump's budget and we are staring at Trillion $ deficits as far as the eye can see. Without a 'great recession'.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2018/04/08/trump-trillion-dollar-budget-deficits-officially-begin-this-week/#98063e033659

He also said he would eliminate the deficit in 8 years, did he not?

Why no screed about that?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Ah,. that's what I was going to say Thanks

pafret Loc: Northeast

Obvious bombast and the nation was left in such poor financial straits by Obama that it was unlikely he could even balance the budget the first year. Similarly Mexico paying for the wall directly was an impossible brag, short of declaring war and forcing such payments. The only way Mexico will "pay" is to build the wall and then force national ID and a work law which shuts off employment of aliens illegally in this country. They will either turn themselves in for deportation or self deport when they cannot find employment and we will benefit by the amount of services they consumed.

1ProudAmerican

"This is actually a long list of made up reasons for denigrating a Democratic President, a slander sheet if you will."

Kinda like the long list of made up reasons for denigrating a Republ-I-CAN President, a slander sheet if you will.

Steve700

Wrong Again.. Just take a Quick Look at Your Own Graf. Our debt was 9 something when Obama took office and well over 20,000,000,000,000 when Obama left office. Not only did Obama say that Bush's spending was irresponsible and unpatriotic, but you liberals were raising hell about Bushe's spending for all those years. That was supporting 2 wars. But never was there a peep out of any of you Obamabots about the massive spending on useless nonsense that Obama engaged himself in, in his fulfilling of the g*******t agenda to bring us down in order to make us equal with other countries. (You double standard liberals are unbelievable conscienceless total hypocrites) Obama had no wars and yet he doubled the spending with America having nothing to show for it. Trump's spending is productive with policies that not only strengthen America (Obama's Deliberately weakened and damaged it & Deliberately hurt business with overregulation, especially for new entrepreneurs) but Trump's are getting the unemployed back to work, the corporations expanding and coming back to America & having the effect of increasing future revenues. Of course, Trump started off without having to deal with a recession because just to the optimism of such a slick businessman taking over our economic woes, Ended It. You can go ahead and say dumb irrelevant stuff like that. I am a legend in my own mind, but that won't change the fact that you are wrong and it's easy for me to demonstrate that all you liberals are always wrong -- about just about everything.

Steve700

No you Were NOT. You haven't the intelligence to even come up with that misinformation on your own AND YOU KNOW IT. --- On top of that, as is usual with all of you liberals, he is wrong as I demonstrated in my post just above

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Take your meds stevie.

working class stiff Loc: N. Carolina

Obama had no wars? LOL. Afghanistan and Iraq had been won then I take it and all the troops and support staff pulled out of those countries.

You start with a conclusion you invent (Obama deliberately tried to destroy America) and then invent a narrative that supports that conclusion. You're doing the same with this President.

I'll give you this: you do educate me. That's why I read some of what you write. You are a clear window into a piece of the American pie. You take all the distilled paranoia and self-delusion of a certain segment of the population and show us the rabbit hole into which they lead.

A modern day 'ugly American', if you will.

Steve700

There is no self-delusion and the paranoia is justified. Obviously you like the idea of a subversive Marxist/Socialist/C*******t/G*******t element to taking over this country. Well I don't because My mind hasn't been taken over and destroyed with Marxist propaganda and becauseI have more sense than to think that is a good idea. We don't want your socially engineered fantasy l*****t utopia that intends to eliminate Christian values (not to mention the Christians themselves)

Obama was selected for us by the g*******t or the very purpose of carrying out their agenda, which will be what I just mentioned, that will, in actuality, be a totalitarian nightmare without the personal freedoms you now have, and where you will be taught to do with less for the greater good. There will be no more making wh**ever you wish out of your own life through your own incentive, hard work and talent. Your life will be directed and controlled with social engineering and everyone will be obliged think the same. And the g*******t agenda for which Obama was selected for us for, was to bring us down and make us equal to other countries. Everything in government evolves slowly and he could only do so much to without tipping his hand. You have no understanding of this both because you have no spiritual awareness or discernment and you just don't know enough. (Not to mention the dumbing down that in fact those who don't have the spiritual awareness be able to recognize Marxist propaganda for what it is and to know enough to NOT accept it)

woodguru

The left doesn't think about Obama, he's gone, it's the right that still has an obsession. The left is worried about the daily disaster that is the current occupant.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

This liberal does, I keep thinking about the 8 years we had a President with class.

Steve700

I forgot to mention that Afghanistan was never won, but it was controled. And yes we did win in Iraq although they were not stable enough to be on their own without our assistance. Obama gave that victory away just like you liberals gave our victory in Vietnam away (after the fact by their refusal to finance the necessary support to keep the C****es from reentering of flight (reinvigorating their revolution) . Not only did Obama release Al Bahgdaddi, the leader of Isis in 2011, but he waited around until he had gains sufficient strength and our and was ready to move on Iraq ----- Then that t*****rous son of a b***h Obama deliberately and t*****rously, abruptly pulled all of our soldiers out of Iraq at once, against the strongly declared advice of both ALL military and civilian advisors. This was all deliberate and so obviously intentional to give our victory in Iraq away to the Muslims, especially in view of the fact he left all of our military hardware there for ISIS to take possession of.

Chaos in the Middle East is primarily the fault of Obama. Getting rid of the leader of Egypt who was our ally. Obama was so happy when the Muslim brotherhood guy got in and starting turning the government into an Islamic dictatorship. Then he complained like mad when the Egyptian army jerked him out of office and put him on trial. Then he got Qaddafi k**led, even though he was no longer a threat to us.. He also did nothing to support the people of Iran when they started rebelling against their Mulla run Islamic government. We had been waiting for years for the people rise up so we could lend support and get that harsh Islamic government out of power, but Obama did nothing. Then he got that r*******n started in Syria and supported the rebels saying they were moderates when they were nothing of the kind. Assod k**ls terrorists and protects the Christians, so Obama started bad mouthing him saying it was time for him to go. What right does Obama have to tell the leader of a sovereign nation that he has to go ??? It is so obvious that Obama just wants to see an Islamic caliph**e take over the Middle East because he was raised a Muslim & still is a Muslim. (Not to mention his mother saw fit to give him a Muslim middle name.. And I have a video of Obama where he made a Freudian slip and stated that his mother was a Muslim. Then immediately on realizing what he is just said (like the 2 occasions where he slipped and called Michelle Michael) he tried to take it back and change it to that she was a w***e A******n.

Did you know that he has let tens of thousands of Islamic refugees into our country and only 20 Christians. That is outrageous and thoroughly evil.
Christian should definitely have had priority and be let in 1st, especially with the ISIS Muslims Perpetrating Genocide on Christians, & even more especially with ISIS openly stating that they were having their people integrate into the refugee population.

If it wasn't for your l*****t/g*******t deep state having control of our government that dirty son of a b***h Obama would have been jerked out of office and put on trial for treason the minute he used that excuse of illegally releaseing the 5 worst and most Savage terrorist COMMANDERS at Gitmo in trade for that deserter/t*****r/defector Sgt. Bergdahl whom he deceitfully said had served with honor.

In view of all these things I just told you, which you should already damn well know, you've got to be some kind of delusional degenerate to be supporting Obama and making the kind of stupid statements about him that you make as if he was of benefit to our country
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You dangerous and crazy lefties make me want to puke


If you were paying attention, you would realize that his being commie Muslim Revolutionary (just like Barack Obama Senior whose ideology he accepted) is the only thing that makes his foreign-policy makes sense