CLOTURE Rule must be abolished to Build the WALL !
Apr 3, 2018 11:26:58 #
See the Trickery Treasonous acts of Harry Reid... helping you connect the DOTS of the ongoing Damage, how Trump is Trapped and so are you...
These perpetrators still walk free amongst you, the Founders would have Shot them DEAD, DEAD, DEAD by now.
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Cloture rule must be abolished to build the wall
By J. Marsolo
In 2013, Harry Reid changed the Senate rules on cloture to require a majority v**e instead of 60 v**es to confirm federal judges, except Supreme Court nominees.
Reid did this to confirm Obama appointees. He did it because Obama wanted his nominees appointed, and Reid supported his president.
Cloture is the procedure to end discussion of a bill to bring it to v**e.
It now requires 60 v**es to end discussion, usually referred to as filibuster, which will allow 30 hours of discussion instead of endless discussion.
Cloture was first adopted in 1917 to require a two-thirds v**e to end discussion. It was changed in 1975 to 60 v**es.
The most famous filibuster was the Democrats' filibuster of 57 days to delay and try to block the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
President Trump ran and won on his promise to build a wall on the southern border.
But he cannot get funding for the wall, and the spending bill he just signed allocates only $1.4 billion for the wall.
Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are not strong supporters of the wall; it isn't clear they support the wall at all.
Neither fought for or demanded more money for the wall.
It appears that McConnell opposes changing the 60-v**e cloture rule.
The 60-v**e requirement is not in the Constitution.
Allowing the minority power to block legislation gives more power to the minority party than intended by our Constitution.
It blocks the will of the v**ers who elect a majority party in the House, Senate, and presidency, as we now have.
It is a Senate rule that can be changed by the party in power. Reid changed it to help Obama.
The 60-v**e rule will prevent Trump from fully funding the wall to build it, which is the plan of the Democrats.
Even if McConnell wants to remove the 60-v**e rule, it is doubtful he can get 51 Republican v**es to change the rule.
We still have McCain, Flake, Collins, Murkowski, Sasse, and Graham, who probably will not support the change.
The only hope is for v**ers to contact their senators, especially the NeverTrump senators like McCain, to change the rule.
Further, we need to elect Republican senators in 2018 who will support the Trump agenda to build the wall and to change the 60-v**e rule to majority v**e.
These perpetrators still walk free amongst you, the Founders would have Shot them DEAD, DEAD, DEAD by now.
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Cloture rule must be abolished to build the wall
By J. Marsolo
In 2013, Harry Reid changed the Senate rules on cloture to require a majority v**e instead of 60 v**es to confirm federal judges, except Supreme Court nominees.
Reid did this to confirm Obama appointees. He did it because Obama wanted his nominees appointed, and Reid supported his president.
Cloture is the procedure to end discussion of a bill to bring it to v**e.
It now requires 60 v**es to end discussion, usually referred to as filibuster, which will allow 30 hours of discussion instead of endless discussion.
Cloture was first adopted in 1917 to require a two-thirds v**e to end discussion. It was changed in 1975 to 60 v**es.
The most famous filibuster was the Democrats' filibuster of 57 days to delay and try to block the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
President Trump ran and won on his promise to build a wall on the southern border.
But he cannot get funding for the wall, and the spending bill he just signed allocates only $1.4 billion for the wall.
Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are not strong supporters of the wall; it isn't clear they support the wall at all.
Neither fought for or demanded more money for the wall.
It appears that McConnell opposes changing the 60-v**e cloture rule.
The 60-v**e requirement is not in the Constitution.
Allowing the minority power to block legislation gives more power to the minority party than intended by our Constitution.
It blocks the will of the v**ers who elect a majority party in the House, Senate, and presidency, as we now have.
It is a Senate rule that can be changed by the party in power. Reid changed it to help Obama.
The 60-v**e rule will prevent Trump from fully funding the wall to build it, which is the plan of the Democrats.
Even if McConnell wants to remove the 60-v**e rule, it is doubtful he can get 51 Republican v**es to change the rule.
We still have McCain, Flake, Collins, Murkowski, Sasse, and Graham, who probably will not support the change.
The only hope is for v**ers to contact their senators, especially the NeverTrump senators like McCain, to change the rule.
Further, we need to elect Republican senators in 2018 who will support the Trump agenda to build the wall and to change the 60-v**e rule to majority v**e.
Apr 3, 2018 17:14:52 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
See the Trickery Treasonous acts of Harry Reid... ... (show quote)
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We can do it by the power v**es of the people. I know you are brave enough to lead a radical movement, but I favor the democratic process via the peoples' v**es. Your warnings to the elect, make them aware what the people want.
The democrats multiply so many of their kind, the Alinsky rule.
Apr 3, 2018 20:07:27 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
See the Trickery Treasonous acts of Harry Reid... ... (show quote)
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It is very critical that more GOP's at the senate are needed to win on Nov. 2018. The problem is a number of GOP senators right now do not support the president. But for the sake of the American people, they must v**e for the wall. This is about survival of our country.
Simple majority could pass a bill in Congress. But a 60-v**e is usually the standard process at the Senate. However, when the party has fewer than 60 v**es, they can pass a "nuclear option". I was not sure why in this 2018 budget, this was not applied.
The budget for 2018 was so defective. So much waste I believe. But the most essential issue was not in.
Apr 3, 2018 20:36:03 #
Radiance3 wrote:
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We can do it by the power v**es of the people. I know you are brave enough to lead a radical movement, but I favor the democratic process via the peoples' v**es. Your warnings to the elect, make them aware what the people want.
The democrats multiply so many of their kind, the Alinsky rule.
We can do it by the power v**es of the people. I know you are brave enough to lead a radical movement, but I favor the democratic process via the peoples' v**es. Your warnings to the elect, make them aware what the people want.
The democrats multiply so many of their kind, the Alinsky rule.
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Noted and your Democratic peaceful process is about to be put to the final steps... Article V ConCon is seriously going to happen I fear,
Good
Bad or indifferent, there are seriou consequences if it gets hijacked and I think it will spin us off into Civil War.
I’ve already sent messages several times to ConCon warning them that NO BAR Attorneys can participate in the Process, that would be unconstitutional - Crickets...
M*****a will not allow them to proceed if any BAR attorney’s are present.
Do you understand the threat ?
Apr 3, 2018 20:36:56 #
Radiance3 wrote:
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It’s 2 party trickery and dysfunctionalism... Flat OUT !
Apr 4, 2018 11:10:00 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
See the Trickery Treasonous acts of Harry Reid... ... (show quote)
Even the Republicans didn't give Trump his wall money in the budget. Now Trump is saying he's going to send the military to guard the border--totally unaware that he can't do that because it's illegal. That i***tic wall will never be built.
Apr 4, 2018 11:11:48 #
kemmer wrote:
Even the Republicans didn't give Trump his wall money in the budget. Now Trump is saying he's going to send the military to guard the border--totally unaware that he can't do that because it's illegal. That i***tic wall will never be built.
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1 Vaid point about t*****r Republicans but the Rest PASS !
Wrong Answer.
Apr 4, 2018 11:17:05 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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1 Vaid point about t*****r Republicans but the Rest PASS !
Wrong Answer.
1 Vaid point about t*****r Republicans but the Rest PASS !
Wrong Answer.
Congressional Republicans aren't "t*****rs", they're just yellow cowards afraid of making Trump mad and jeopardizing their re-e******n prospects. They needn't worry because they're all going to be flushed away in the November midterms.
Apr 4, 2018 11:20:44 #
kemmer wrote:
Congressional Republicans aren't "t*****rs", they're just yellow cowards afraid of making Trump mad and jeopardizing their re-e******n prospects. They needn't worry because they're all going to be flushed away in the November midterms.
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We’ll see but both parties are cooked.
The convention of states article V will remove all of them.
ConventionofStates.com
Regardless of that cunundrum the Cloture Rule must be removed.
Apr 4, 2018 11:24:50 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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We’ll see but both parties are cooked.
The convention of states article V will remove all of them.
ConventionofStates.com
Regardless of that cunundrum the Cloture Rule must be removed.
We’ll see but both parties are cooked.
The convention of states article V will remove all of them.
ConventionofStates.com
Regardless of that cunundrum the Cloture Rule must be removed.
Oh that's right; I forgot. You're going to lead a parcel of armed rabble on DC and arrest everybody. That'll make good theatre.
Apr 4, 2018 11:27:47 #
kemmer wrote:
Oh that's right; I forgot. You're going to lead a parcel of armed rabble on DC and arrest everybody. That'll make good theatre.
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The only Theatre people like you are going to see is the Actual Process of the Article V unfold before your unbelieving eyes... it is a very very dangerous event.
I do believe that process will spin us off into what you say about Armed conflict and Civil War.
Apr 4, 2018 11:56:46 #
Sicilianthing wrote:
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The only Theatre people like you are going to see is the Actual Process of the Article V unfold before your unbelieving eyes... it is a very very dangerous event.
I do believe that process will spin us off into what you say about Armed conflict and Civil War.
The only Theatre people like you are going to see is the Actual Process of the Article V unfold before your unbelieving eyes... it is a very very dangerous event.
I do believe that process will spin us off into what you say about Armed conflict and Civil War.
Like hometown America is going to put up with a ragtag band of malcontents trying to start a civil war! They’ll just say, KEEP OFF MY LAWN!!
Apr 4, 2018 12:21:49 #
kemmer wrote:
Like hometown America is going to put up with a ragtag band of malcontents trying to start a civil war! They’ll just say, KEEP OFF MY LAWN!!
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It’s not that simple kemmer and you don’t know what’s simmering beneath the surface.
Apr 4, 2018 14:36:18 #
Radiance3 wrote:
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We can do it by the power v**es of the people. I know you are brave enough to lead a radical movement, but I favor the democratic process via the peoples' v**es. Your warnings to the elect, make them aware what the people want.
The democrats multiply so many of their kind, the Alinsky rule.
We can do it by the power v**es of the people. I know you are brave enough to lead a radical movement, but I favor the democratic process via the peoples' v**es. Your warnings to the elect, make them aware what the people want.
The democrats multiply so many of their kind, the Alinsky rule.
While I agree that the people should have power and exercise it through their v**es, but we already have v****g power which never seems to change anything in congress because the same old ones WITH THE POWER IN CONGRESS keep getting reelected. And I just don't see that changing. Can you even imagine her v**ers not reelecting Maxine Waters? Nothing will ever change as long as v**ers v**e the party no matter what, as long as black v**ers v**e based on skin color no matter what, as long as women v**e on g****r no matter what, as long as the welfare folks v**e democrat no matter what.
Apr 4, 2018 16:16:36 #
maryjane wrote:
While I agree that the people should have power an... (show quote)
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The Article V Convention of States will Throttle that, shatter it and put it out of existence...
ConventionofStates.com
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