Richard Rowland

bahmer

That should be done in every county in the US.

mactheknife

I'm not surprised. They should look at what is happening in some California jurisdictions where many more v**ers are registered than there are citizens. After researching this issue, I am of the opinion that v****g abuse by non-citizens is widespread and needs to be dealt with strongly. Otherwise, what does being a US citizen really mean?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

From your researching, what "jurisdictions where many more v**ers are registered than there are citizens."?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

NONE

mactheknife

You may want to read: Pew Center’s E******n Performance Index. Also, See U.S. Dept. of Just., Federal Prosecution of E******n Offenses 66 (7th ed. 2007), available at https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/criminal/legacy/2013/09/30/electbook-rvs0807.pdf. With regard to LA, which is the example I referred to in my last post, please read: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-05/california-has-11-counties-more-registered-v**ers-v****g-age-citizens. In LA County, alone, the number of registered v**ers were 144% of the citizens in the County!! However, 11Counties in the LA area reported similar problems. The point is that many e******ns are settled by margins of no more than a few hundred v**es so that a thousand non-citizens can swing the decision one way or the other. V****g by non-citizens dilutes the v****g power of all citizens thus reducing our ability to change our elected officials and their policies at the bollot box, which is a most fundamental right in a democracy. A particularly revealing analysis in the case of Virginia is a report from the Public Interest Legal Foundation titles: Alien Invasion in Virginia, The Discovery and Coverup of Non-Citizen Registration and V****g. It is available on the web. There are many such reports tike this showing that it is a pervasive problem. This should be a non-partisan issue, but unfortunately it it not as the left has pushed for what amounts to be "open borders". They do not have the right to impact the v****g power of any citizen; at least in my case I never gave them that right.

archie bunker Loc: Texas

Prove it........bob.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

More wacko BS.

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-california-more-v**ers-than-eligible-adults-claim-20170809-htmlstory.html


Judicial Watch did not offer any data to back up its claim, and it declined to give the Los Angeles Times any details about its analysis, saying it may soon sue.
The claim, which Judicial Watch made in an Aug. 1 letter, has attracted curiosity and criticism and comes as Padilla has expressed a reluctance to hand over v***r r**********n data to a White House panel tasked with investigating President Donald Trump’s unsubstantiated claims of mass v***r f***d in the 2016 e******n.
The letter and the claim by Judicial Watch had not drawn considerable attention until the conservative-leaning site Breitbart News published a story about it and a California assemblyman, Travis Allen, R-Huntington Beach, on Monday shared it on Twitter with the question, “How is this possible?”

A report in The Sacramento Bee offered this terse reply: “Short answer: It’s not.”
Here is a breakdown of how and why this claim gained wider attention and how e******n officials in California explain the discrepancy in v***r r**********n numbers.
What exactly does Judicial Watch claim?
Judicial Watch says 11 counties in California are in violation of a section of the National V***r R**********n Act that requires states to do a “reasonable list maintenance” of v***r r**********n lists.
To support its argument, it compares population numbers in the 2011-2015 U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey to California’s registered v**ers — which combines those on active and inactive v**er lists. By that calculation, 11 counties have more total registered v**ers than adults over the age of 18.
“In our experience, these kinds of registration rates indicate a failure to comply with the v**er list maintenance requirements of the NVRA,” the letter says, adding that such inaccuracies undermine public confidence in the e*******l process.

What do e******n officials say about it?
The question revolves around the inclusion of California v**ers who are deemed “inactive.”
Inactive v**er lists are made up of people who may have had their mail b****ts or other v**er documents returned as undeliverable, The Sacramento Bee explained. That can happen when someone moves or dies.
Here’s how the Bee elaborated on that:
Judicial Watch’s claim rests on its inclusion of “inactive v**ers” – people who have been removed from active rolls after a mail b****t, v**er guide or other official document was returned as undeliverable – usually as a result of moving. They aren’t reflected in turnout tallies or signature-gathering requirements, don’t receive e******n materials, and are ignored by campaigns.
Los Angeles County’s registrar of v**ers, Dean Logan, explained to the Bee that the names on the inactive v**er list are kept as a “fail-safe” so as to not disenfranchise or discourage v**ers.
Combining “inactive v**er” and “active v**er” lists could result in a higher total number of registered v**ers that Judicial Watch says raises suspicions.
Logan and Gail Pellerin, the Santa Cruz County registrar of v**ers, told the Los Angeles Times that very few people on the “inactive v**er” list actually show up to v**e. As few as 12 people, out of 44,172 people on Santa Cruz County’s inactive list, showed up to v**e in November, Pellerin said.
Update: San Diego County’s registrar of v**ers, Michael Vu, on Thursday echoed the logic of his counterparts in Los Angeles and Santa Cruz counties.
He added that, “without sounding redundant to what my colleagues have stated, I would add that list maintenance of the San Diego v**er rolls occurs diligently and on a daily basis and is done in accordance with State and federal law.”
What are the 11 counties being mentioned?
Imperial County (102 percent)
Lassen County (102 percent)
Los Angeles County (112 percent)
Monterey County (104 percent)
San Diego County (138 percent)
San Francisco County (114 percent)
San Mateo County (111 percent)
Santa Cruz County (109 percent)
Solano County (111 percent)
Stanislaus County (102 percent)
Yolo County (110 percent)
What are people saying about the claim?
Allen shared a Breitbart News story about the letter to his more than 6,000 followers on Twitter, but the biggest push came from Alex Jones whose Infowars online show attracts millions of viewers.
On Tuesday, Jones shared it with his more than 680,000 Twitter followers with the hashtag #WakeUpAmerica.

Some other conservatives who shared the story used the opportunity to criticize California’s reluctance to turn over v**er data to Trump’s e******n commission.


Padilla and others, however, have countered that the commission — and Judicial Watch, too — is motivated by an agenda to upend the v****g rights of Americans.
“To me, it's clearly part of a concerted effort, a continued attack on v****g rights and setting the stage for the Trump administration to roll back v****g rights,” Padilla told the Los Angeles Times.



So what is going to happen next?
Padilla has now twice rejected the P**********l Advisory Commission on E******n Integrity’s request for v**er data, joining a number of other states, and it’s unclear what the special panel will do to obtain the information.
Judicial Watch, however, gave Padilla 14 days from the date of the Aug. 1 letter to respond to its request to rectify the discrepancies between active and inactive v**er data or else the group said it would sue.

Have some thoughts to share?
Join me in a conversation: Shoot me a private email with your thoughts or ideas on a different approach to this story. As always, you can also send us a tweet.
Email: luis.gomez@sduniontribune.com
Twitter: @RunGomez
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UPDATES:
Aug. 10, at 4:40 p.m.: This article was updated with comments from San Diego County’s registrar of v**ers, Michael Vu.
This article was originally published Aug. 9, 2017, at 6:00 p.m.
Copyright © 2018, The San Diego Union-Tribune

ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island

According to Wikipedia, "The right of foreigners to v**e in the United States[1][2] has historically been a contentious issue. A foreigner, in this context, is an alien or a person who is not a citizen of the United States.

Since 1996, a federal law has prohibited non-citizens from v****g in federal e******ns, punishing them by fines, imprisonment, inadmissibility, and deportation.[3][4][5] Exempt from punishment is any non-citizen who "reasonably believed at the time of v****g (...) that he or she was a citizen of the United States," had a parent who is or was a citizen, and began permanently living in the United States before turning 16 years old.[3] The federal law does not prohibit non-citizens from v****g in state or local e******ns, but no state has allowed non-citizens to v**e in state e******ns since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw non-citizen v****g in 1926.[6]"

So, there is a federal law prohibiting non-citizens from v****g, yet the Office of the Harris County V**er Registrar in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas refused to disclose documents or allow the inspection of its v**er rolls to ensure that registrants were removed after it was discovered that they were non-citizens. Is that not aiding and abetting the commission of a crime? Shouldn't the Registrar be relieved of her responsibilities if he/she cannot properly discharge their duties?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

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Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

mactheknife

The rolls are a matter of public record so why do the counties oppose their release? Let the sun shine in and illuminate them all for everyone to see. Do you have a problem with that?

debeda

Agreed. I think this problem really intensified with the states that decided to give i******s driver's licenses. So easy to get a v**er's registration card at the same time. A DMV worker asks if you're a citizen. You say yes. Bada Bing bada boom you're registered to v**e.

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

Most states did.

mactheknife

This is simply the corrupt protecting the corrupted.