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Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in the West' - Analyst
Mar 20, 2018 15:17:16   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in the West' - Analyst
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/

Russians have elected Putin for another six years as the country's President. According to preliminary results, Putin is leading with over 75 percent of the v**e, while the e******n turnout was over 63 percent. Sputnik spoke to Lode Vanoost, a political analyst and former deputy speaker of the Belgian parliament, as Russians took to the polls.

Lode Vanoost: Apart from the result that probably President Putin is going to renew his mandate, the most important thing is how many people actually went to v**e, if it is 62 percent, let's compare it, for example, with participation in the Unites States, where it was much lower and nobody in the mainstream media yet discusses the legitimacy of the e******n there. Therefore, [given] that number, these are very l********e e******ns indeed.


Sputnik: Tell us: how did the Western press cover the Russian e******ns?

E******n Commission: 1,400 Russians V**ed at Embassy in Washington DC
Lode Vanoost: If I see anything to do with Russia in the mainstream media, not just the e******ns, here in Western countries, it has become so biased that I do not expect any fair review of the e******n process in the coming days. The climate has been so poisoned by what I personally call anti-Russian r****t ideas, apart from the criticism that one can have of the Russian political system and of its political leaders, which is another debate. So I do not believe that there will be a decent review of the e******ns, so wh**ever the result is going to be, they are going to take it down as something that is not correct. But then again, when you [ask], "are the e******ns in Russia fair"… well, I always say, 'compared to what?'
First of all, you have to distinguish between the technical process of the e******ns: you know — how are the b****ts organized, how is the counting process going on, how's v***r r**********n. On that level one can dispute that in Russia they have a decent system to organize e******ns. Of course, e******ns are more than just the technical system, [there's] also a political level, and one of the things that the media here emphasize is that the opposition candidates do not have fair accesses to the media, which for me is a bit odd, considering that several of these opposition candidates are quite well-known figures in the Russian media. So I'm not going to say that the big media in Russia are very fair or balanced, but again, compared to what? Compared to the American media, the British media, the French media, how fair and balanced are they towards opposition candidates? So I'm not going to say it's very good there and it's very bad here, things are much more complex than that, but I do not think it is correct to point the finger at Russia for being unfair on an issue where European countries and the United States do not have a lot to show for.

Sputnik: Can you give us some forecast regarding relations between Russia and the European Union during the next p**********l term?


Lode Vanoost: What I give is an educated guess; [it's] based on information but it's still a guess. My feeling is that it's not going to get better, these relations. Are they going to get worse? Well, actually, I don't think so, it's going to remain the same as it is nowadays, because this anti-Russian atmosphere is too easy for those in power [to use] to cover up the other issues like austerity and so on: in Great Britain, for example, the whole debacle with Brexit and so on, so I think it's going to go on. My big worry is that in a situation like that, things can escalate very fast, even without the intention of an escalation, this can get out of hand very fast, and that is my biggest worry. I do not believe that even NATO is planning something of a war or an attack on Russia, but what I do believe is that the situation is getting so tense that things could get out of hand and that is my biggest worry for the coming years.

Lode Vanoost: [First] we have to make an analysis of the political process in the EU itself, of what is going on here, before we can even start to tackle the relations with Russia. Things are so complicated and complex that I cannot foresee the specific conditions. Basically, one will have to wait until the European e******ns, that is, the e******ns for the European parliament in June next year. Euroscepticism is growing among the people in the EU, so it all will depend on how people will v**e in those new e******ns or not v**e, because in some EU countries, participation in EU v****g is lower than 15 percent. So that is extremely worrying, and in those circumstances parties can get elected with a very dangerous program, not just towards Russia, but towards the democracy in the EU itself. So basically when you [ask] how to resolve the relationship with Russia, well it is asking the same question on how to resolve the problems within the EU itself.
Views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the contributor and do not necessarily reflect those of Sputnik.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:30:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in the West' - Analyst
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/

Russians have elected Putin for another six years as the country's President. According to preliminary results, Putin is leading with over 75 percent of the v**e, while the e******n turnout was over 63 percent. Sputnik spoke to Lode Vanoost, a political analyst and former deputy speaker of the Belgian parliament, as Russians took to the polls.

Lode Vanoost: Apart from the result that probably President Putin is going to renew his mandate, the most important thing is how many people actually went to v**e, if it is 62 percent, let's compare it, for example, with participation in the Unites States, where it was much lower and nobody in the mainstream media yet discusses the legitimacy of the e******n there. Therefore, [given] that number, these are very l********e e******ns indeed.


Sputnik: Tell us: how did the Western press cover the Russian e******ns?

E******n Commission: 1,400 Russians V**ed at Embassy in Washington DC
Lode Vanoost: If I see anything to do with Russia in the mainstream media, not just the e******ns, here in Western countries, it has become so biased that I do not expect any fair review of the e******n process in the coming days. The climate has been so poisoned by what I personally call anti-Russian r****t ideas, apart from the criticism that one can have of the Russian political system and of its political leaders, which is another debate. So I do not believe that there will be a decent review of the e******ns, so wh**ever the result is going to be, they are going to take it down as something that is not correct. But then again, when you [ask], "are the e******ns in Russia fair"… well, I always say, 'compared to what?'
First of all, you have to distinguish between the technical process of the e******ns: you know — how are the b****ts organized, how is the counting process going on, how's v***r r**********n. On that level one can dispute that in Russia they have a decent system to organize e******ns. Of course, e******ns are more than just the technical system, [there's] also a political level, and one of the things that the media here emphasize is that the opposition candidates do not have fair accesses to the media, which for me is a bit odd, considering that several of these opposition candidates are quite well-known figures in the Russian media. So I'm not going to say that the big media in Russia are very fair or balanced, but again, compared to what? Compared to the American media, the British media, the French media, how fair and balanced are they towards opposition candidates? So I'm not going to say it's very good there and it's very bad here, things are much more complex than that, but I do not think it is correct to point the finger at Russia for being unfair on an issue where European countries and the United States do not have a lot to show for.

Sputnik: Can you give us some forecast regarding relations between Russia and the European Union during the next p**********l term?


Lode Vanoost: What I give is an educated guess; [it's] based on information but it's still a guess. My feeling is that it's not going to get better, these relations. Are they going to get worse? Well, actually, I don't think so, it's going to remain the same as it is nowadays, because this anti-Russian atmosphere is too easy for those in power [to use] to cover up the other issues like austerity and so on: in Great Britain, for example, the whole debacle with Brexit and so on, so I think it's going to go on. My big worry is that in a situation like that, things can escalate very fast, even without the intention of an escalation, this can get out of hand very fast, and that is my biggest worry. I do not believe that even NATO is planning something of a war or an attack on Russia, but what I do believe is that the situation is getting so tense that things could get out of hand and that is my biggest worry for the coming years.

Lode Vanoost: [First] we have to make an analysis of the political process in the EU itself, of what is going on here, before we can even start to tackle the relations with Russia. Things are so complicated and complex that I cannot foresee the specific conditions. Basically, one will have to wait until the European e******ns, that is, the e******ns for the European parliament in June next year. Euroscepticism is growing among the people in the EU, so it all will depend on how people will v**e in those new e******ns or not v**e, because in some EU countries, participation in EU v****g is lower than 15 percent. So that is extremely worrying, and in those circumstances parties can get elected with a very dangerous program, not just towards Russia, but towards the democracy in the EU itself. So basically when you [ask] how to resolve the relationship with Russia, well it is asking the same question on how to resolve the problems within the EU itself.
Views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the contributor and do not necessarily reflect those of Sputnik.
Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in... (show quote)


I just posted a link to this on a different thread. Good article. Help to be able to get into the heads of the Russian people. From their point of view, it is WE of the west who are corrupt.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:33:04   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in the West' - Analyst
https://sputniknews.com/analysis/

Russians have elected Putin for another six years as the country's President. According to preliminary results, Putin is leading with over 75 percent of the v**e, while the e******n turnout was over 63 percent. Sputnik spoke to Lode Vanoost, a political analyst and former deputy speaker of the Belgian parliament, as Russians took to the polls.

Lode Vanoost: Apart from the result that probably President Putin is going to renew his mandate, the most important thing is how many people actually went to v**e, if it is 62 percent, let's compare it, for example, with participation in the Unites States, where it was much lower and nobody in the mainstream media yet discusses the legitimacy of the e******n there. Therefore, [given] that number, these are very l********e e******ns indeed.


Sputnik: Tell us: how did the Western press cover the Russian e******ns?

E******n Commission: 1,400 Russians V**ed at Embassy in Washington DC
Lode Vanoost: If I see anything to do with Russia in the mainstream media, not just the e******ns, here in Western countries, it has become so biased that I do not expect any fair review of the e******n process in the coming days. The climate has been so poisoned by what I personally call anti-Russian r****t ideas, apart from the criticism that one can have of the Russian political system and of its political leaders, which is another debate. So I do not believe that there will be a decent review of the e******ns, so wh**ever the result is going to be, they are going to take it down as something that is not correct. But then again, when you [ask], "are the e******ns in Russia fair"… well, I always say, 'compared to what?'
First of all, you have to distinguish between the technical process of the e******ns: you know — how are the b****ts organized, how is the counting process going on, how's v***r r**********n. On that level one can dispute that in Russia they have a decent system to organize e******ns. Of course, e******ns are more than just the technical system, [there's] also a political level, and one of the things that the media here emphasize is that the opposition candidates do not have fair accesses to the media, which for me is a bit odd, considering that several of these opposition candidates are quite well-known figures in the Russian media. So I'm not going to say that the big media in Russia are very fair or balanced, but again, compared to what? Compared to the American media, the British media, the French media, how fair and balanced are they towards opposition candidates? So I'm not going to say it's very good there and it's very bad here, things are much more complex than that, but I do not think it is correct to point the finger at Russia for being unfair on an issue where European countries and the United States do not have a lot to show for.

Sputnik: Can you give us some forecast regarding relations between Russia and the European Union during the next p**********l term?


Lode Vanoost: What I give is an educated guess; [it's] based on information but it's still a guess. My feeling is that it's not going to get better, these relations. Are they going to get worse? Well, actually, I don't think so, it's going to remain the same as it is nowadays, because this anti-Russian atmosphere is too easy for those in power [to use] to cover up the other issues like austerity and so on: in Great Britain, for example, the whole debacle with Brexit and so on, so I think it's going to go on. My big worry is that in a situation like that, things can escalate very fast, even without the intention of an escalation, this can get out of hand very fast, and that is my biggest worry. I do not believe that even NATO is planning something of a war or an attack on Russia, but what I do believe is that the situation is getting so tense that things could get out of hand and that is my biggest worry for the coming years.

Lode Vanoost: [First] we have to make an analysis of the political process in the EU itself, of what is going on here, before we can even start to tackle the relations with Russia. Things are so complicated and complex that I cannot foresee the specific conditions. Basically, one will have to wait until the European e******ns, that is, the e******ns for the European parliament in June next year. Euroscepticism is growing among the people in the EU, so it all will depend on how people will v**e in those new e******ns or not v**e, because in some EU countries, participation in EU v****g is lower than 15 percent. So that is extremely worrying, and in those circumstances parties can get elected with a very dangerous program, not just towards Russia, but towards the democracy in the EU itself. So basically when you [ask] how to resolve the relationship with Russia, well it is asking the same question on how to resolve the problems within the EU itself.
Views and opinions expressed in this article are those of the contributor and do not necessarily reflect those of Sputnik.
Russia V**es: 'E******ns Won't Have Fair Review in... (show quote)

I was watching e******ns on TV and from what i have seen it was f**r e******ns, plus what nobody realize is that people v**ed not only in Russia but Russian communities all over Europe and even in the United States overwhelmingly v**ed for Putin......I have seen long lines in New York, LA and other cities.No matter what we think about Putin, one thing for sure is Russian people do love him......BTW, Putin ran under Russians As One, others were running under C*******t Party of Russia he got whopping 1.2 %,and the 1st lady who was running under Liberal Party got 1.8%..the one who got 14.3% i dont remember what party he ran under.

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Mar 20, 2018 15:33:45   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I just posted a link to this on a different thread. Good article. Help to be able to get into the heads of the Russian people. From their point of view, it is WE of the west who are corrupt.


And without the Russian boogie man, how could our "Godly" leaders hide their greatest sins??

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Mar 20, 2018 15:59:40   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
What part of these endless videos of Russians stuffing v**es in b****t boxes? No wonder Putin won 76% of the v**e!

Watch all the videos below, this is asinine!

https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-e******n-violations/29109634.html

https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/world/2018-03-19-watch--b****t-stuffing-caught-on-camera-during-russian-e******ns/

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-v**e-problems-b****t-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-53836150






proud republican wrote:
I was watching e******ns on TV and from what i have seen it was f**r e******ns, plus what nobody realize is that people v**ed not only in Russia but Russian communities all over Europe and even in the United States overwhelmingly v**ed for Putin......I have seen long lines in New York, LA and other cities.No matter what we think about Putin, one thing for sure is Russian people do love him......BTW, Putin ran under Russians As One, others were running under C*******t Party of Russia he got whopping 1.2 %,and the 1st lady who was running under Liberal Party got 1.8%..the one who got 14.3% i dont remember what party he ran under.
I was watching e******ns on TV and from what i hav... (show quote)

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Mar 20, 2018 16:05:04   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:
I was watching e******ns on TV and from what i have seen it was f**r e******ns, plus what nobody realize is that people v**ed not only in Russia but Russian communities all over Europe and even in the United States overwhelmingly v**ed for Putin......I have seen long lines in New York, LA and other cities.No matter what we think about Putin, one thing for sure is Russian people do love him......BTW, Putin ran under Russians As One, others were running under C*******t Party of Russia he got whopping 1.2 %,and the 1st lady who was running under Liberal Party got 1.8%..the one who got 14.3% i dont remember what party he ran under.
I was watching e******ns on TV and from what i hav... (show quote)


The people who love Trump love him too, notice I say the people who love him, not "the people"...

The people do not love Trump, that is a minority running that ship. Only the people who love Trump think they are representative of the people of the United States.

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Mar 20, 2018 16:13:18   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
The people who love Trump love him too, notice I say the people who love him, not "the people"...

The people do not love Trump, that is a minority running that ship. Only the people who love Trump think they are representative of the people of the United States.


You guys are bunch of sore losers...Stop crying!!!.......T***p w*n, your loser K**lary lost, time to move on!!!......Yeah, minority won, you guys so called majority lost..What does it tell you???We had a waaay better candidate then b***h who h**es millions and millions of Americans who v**ed for change!!!

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Mar 20, 2018 16:28:25   #
Raylan Wolfe Loc: earth
 
And you are a despicable person for supporting a dictator!

Fox News; Russia v**e problems; B****t stuffing, coercion and gimmicks! Only complete morons would support a dictator who controls the v**e!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-v**e-problems-b****t-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-53836150


proud republican wrote:
You guys are bunch of sore losers...Stop crying!!!.......T***p w*n, your loser K**lary lost, time to move on!!!......Yeah, minority won, you guys so called majority lost..What does it tell you???We had a waaay better candidate then b***h who h**es millions and millions of Americans who v**ed for change!!!



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Mar 20, 2018 16:32:00   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And you are a despicable person for supporting a dictator!

Fox News; Russia v**e problems; B****t stuffing, coercion and gimmicks! Only complete morons would support a dictator who controls the v**e!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-v**e-problems-b****t-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-53836150


Dim dim i never said i supported Putin...I said people in Russia, in R U S S I A support him, not me!!

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Mar 20, 2018 17:38:52   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 


Pay attention. Some of those videos are from 2016 and it isn't clear what actually is being done, how ever, in each of the instances where it was found to be true, the v**es in that place were annulled. Second, just exactly what makes you think they are 'stuffed b****ts" v****g for Putin??

Think! Is this thing on??

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Mar 20, 2018 17:41:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Raylan Wolfe wrote:
And you are a despicable person for supporting a dictator!

Fox News; Russia v**e problems; B****t stuffing, coercion and gimmicks! Only complete morons would support a dictator who controls the v**e!

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/russian-v**e-problems-b****t-stuffing-coercion-gimmicks-53836150


If Clinton had won, after all of her c***ting, would you consider her a dictator??

By the way, there were 8 other candidates running against Putin and all of them were given equal time, under law, in TV and radio time. The Russians I know think the west has more v****g problems than Russia. They cite the lefts willingness to allow i******s to v**e and the busing in of i******s to v****g booths.

Think! Is this thing actually on???

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Mar 20, 2018 17:42:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
proud republican wrote:
Dim dim i never said i supported Putin...I said people in Russia, in R U S S I A support him, not me!!


If I were a Russian and v****g in Russia, I'd v**e for him. He's great. His approval is very high.

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Mar 21, 2018 08:31:40   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 


When Rayloon takes a stand; it is a very good indicator that that stand is wrong. I am very serious about this.
He is one ignorant i***t.

BTW; thanks for slithering by Loon; you just added credibility of this article.

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Mar 21, 2018 08:43:21   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
eagleye13 wrote:
When Rayloon takes a stand; it is a very good indicator that that stand is wrong. I am very serious about this.
He is one ignorant i***t.

BTW; thanks for slithering by Loon; you just added credibility of this article.


Surprised we arent seeing Trump put Putin back in for another 6 years..

Must be too early yet~~~lololol

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