JimMe

I was born in 1950... And our parents never - not ever - laid a hand on us... Guns were not a part of our household... But respect for others was very important... My father said, "No one has to earn your respect. They have to earn your disrespect. And only when they earn your disrespect do they have to do things to regain your respect."

I have lived my entire life with my father's thoughts in mind... And everyone I've known, regardless of race, creed, color. and religion have found me to be a good, caring person... And they've told me so...

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

Well, that just isn't the case anymore, sorry to say.

maureenthannon

Betta, In the old days, if we did some thing wrong or didn't do something right, whoever was an authority figure would smack us, and when we got home, if our parents found out that teacher or neighbor smacked us, they didn't report it to the police, they'd smack us for getting into trouble with the teacher, neighbor, or who ever. I'm not suggesting that any one should be able to beat up any kid, but a little discipline nd direction couldn't be as bad as what's going on today.Could ALL THIS MESS be connected to the banning of the Bible and Prayer in public places in the 60's?

bahmer

Very possible.

son of witless

" Are you saying that a single parent caused mental illness or are you trying to ignore mental illness and just focus on that which you deem more liberal? "

I never thought of it the way you are inferring my meaning. Single parent caused mental illness. An interesting notion. We are all generalizing here, yes no ? The Las Vegas shooter, other than being crazy, does not fit the general pattern for two primary reasons. First he was not a school shooter. Second he was not young. He is an exception to the pattern and I think he should be thrown out of the discussion.

Which brings me back to my original premise. Most of these School shooters are young men with no Strong Male Parent figure. When I was growing up one of the potent threats a neighbor could make to us was to say, " I'm going to tell your Father. " Most of the Fathers in my neighborhoods would physically punish any of the young men who seriously misbehaved. Openly defying your Father was not even a hint of a thought. My point is that these shooters usually do not have that strong Father in their lives that keeps them from listening to the voices in their heads.

These school shooters do not just snap one day. They have to build up their violent acts until they commit murder. A strong Father would intervene long before they got to the murder stage, and he sure would not allow his damaged little snowflake access to guns.

bahmer

If we could change welfare to reward the two parent family over the single parent family and thus encourage marriage instead of uncontrolled breading we would have a shot at correcting this problem. I know that the democrats would be beside themselves if we would dare reverse LBJ and his proclamation about having b****s v****g democrat for 200 years but we have to do something.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

I'd like to see the stats on welfare women with multiple children by more than 1 father.

acknowledgeurma

acknowledgeurma

"uncontrolled breading" ??? Are you talking about putting too many buns in the oven?

bahmer

You could start by looking at the NFL and the NBA for all of the black players with multiple children from multiple women.
B****s seem to be the most prevalent followed by illegal hispanics and then other races.
I guess you could get that info from welfare lists but don't know where you obtain that info.

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

And generational welfare.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

That too

son of witless

Boys in particular need a strong stable Father in their lives. The standard heterosexual family unit where both Mother and Father fulfill their roles in parenting is the best case. Unfortunately many parents, particularly the Fathers do not show up for their most important job in life. When they do show up and the kid has a mental illness they do not become School Shooters.

DaWg44

I think the sheriff is dead on. I grew up on a farm deep in South Georgia. We were raised to respect the earth, all people, animals, property. We were taught to respect ourselves, constantly encouraged to do our best, if we failed at something, encouraged to keep trying. We ate wh**ever was put on the table. If you did not eat it, it would be on your plate every meal until you did. We knew when bad years happened, meat would be scarce, homemade ice cream would not be seen. We also knew there were people in worse shape & we would be sharing what we had w/ them. It was just understood that is the way things are. We wore hand me down clothes, never thought anything about it. We were not the center of attention @ family gatherings, never interrupted an adult conversation. We were loved & cared for more than most of us realized until years later.

We were taught responsibility. We had chores that were necessary for our survival. The animals had to fed, milked, tools & equipment had to be cleaned & oiled. Having a bad day was no excuse, it is too cold, wet, hot was unthinkable. We did not have central heat or air. We did not have tv, only a party line telephone. If we did something wrong we learned quickly to admit it & get over it, make it right. If others were involved, you kept your mouth shut after the first time you tried to use that as an excuse.

This will no doubt upset some readers but it was a big part of our lives. We believed in God. We believed in the Ten Commandments. If they weren’t in the Bible, Liberals probably would figure out they are a good basis for Humanity.

We were not angels, we all stretched the reins & paid the consequences. We got in fights, got over it. If we got paddled @ school, we got switched or spanked when we got home.

We were responsible for our families’ names. That was a burden & an honor put on us early.

I have been employing people since I was 16. I am 70 now, still working 50-60 hours/wk, have seen first hand the dramatic changes in our culture, work ethic, entitlement philosophy taking presedence over responsibility. I have spend 100’s of hours, millions of dollars trying to make a difference working w/ schools from middle school through colleges & tech schools. Our country is booming now & we do not have competent employees. Welders are in great demand, good ones can make $80,000-$100,000/year but kids think it is too dirty which it is not these days w/ cooled helmets, all kinds of air filtration, same thing for plumbers, tool & die makers, machinists, all the trades needed to support manufacturing. We have engineers who have no idea of how to make what they design because they have never turned on a mill or lathe, much less made anything on one. They come up w/ absolutely fantastic solutions on a computer screen but have no clue of how to make it, get their feelings hurt when someone tells them it won’t work. They still expect excellent reviews & raises because they spent so much time on a project.

Yes this has something to do w/ gun violence. These kids do not have any loadstone in their lives, might be no father, no mother, parents more concerned about other things, no discipline, misdiagnosis of problems, drugs prescribed instead of “No you cannot drink all the soda you want to”.

I am really ill about what FL did, not one mention of limited access to schools. If we have raised a generation of kids who are intimidated, threatened by metal detectors, how are they going to fit ito jobs that require flying, going in government buildings?

I do not applaud kids insulting senators & a president like they have a right to. They have been hurt, but they are still kids. They are to dumb to realize they are being had & The State of Florida politicians are just as dumb.

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

Very well put Sir, the snowflake mentality is going to have a dramatic effect on the future, it has me worried👍