PeterS

Linda, those 'poor' kids have minds of their own and for some odd reason they feel that they have a right to go to school in the morning and return home alive in the evening. They didn't need any guidance from liberals--the bullets sprayed from your AR-15 was all the guidance they needed. And you guys should feel guilty because if not for YOU this nation would have sane gun laws and mentally ill children wouldn't have assault-style rifles waiting for them at their finger tips. Those kids died because of your obsession with the semi automatic assault rifle. If you are finally starting to fell some guilt because of that than at least that is a step in the right direction...

Dr. Evil Loc: In Your Face

Pure BS, not ONE pro-2nd amendment student was given a chance or asked to speak. Go pound sand.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

If I was a billionaire I’d round em up and send them all to the gallows, Treasonous bastards that they are... loloool

https://youtu.be/Vef0tHy3HNw

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Sorry, Peter but it reaks of Soros!! It is implausible and down right suspect that high school students who survived the massacre two week ago were capable of organizing nationwide rallies for gun control on their own..and all over other states as well.. Not buying it one bit especially when we know how Soros works.. Look at the Middle East intervention he is directly responsible for if you will..

I’m glad you are a voice for the students its refreshing and needed because Soros will poison them in a heartbeat!! He doesnt give one damn about them !! They k**l each off the better for him later..

We are allllll a voice for the entire school system raught with Constant despair and no solutions...

I’ll say it again this passive/aggressive approach after the fact has got to stop.. These continued shooting being sensationalized as the lyen media do just feed it into the minds of another that will use it for his 15 minutes of fame.. Report it then shut it down.. How ridiculous it is to sensationize it !!!

Ricktloml

There is no doubt the grief, anger and fear from these students is real. Of course after such an horrific experience there will be strong emotions. And anti-gun activists DID swoop in and immediately started giving these grieving students "guidance", and material support to get the anti-gun message out. The absolutely vile, h**e-filled rhetoric at that CNN ambush meeting should have made these almost adults ashamed. Fomenting violence against and demonizing people who simply disagree with you is in no way an acceptable response. Well, at least it shouln't be acceptable, but the left encourages, excuses and defends such hatred. Conservatives in NO WAY CARE LESS for children than progressives do, as a matter of fact it is the anti-gun, people control agenda that motivates the left, not concern for these children. Encouraging violence as a response to violence pretty much illustrates how morally reprehensible the left truly is. Conservatives are interested in SOLUTIONS, not KNEE-JERK REACTIONS. Conservatives would like to let these young people heal, at least a bit, (it will take a long time to get over something this bad,) and then figure out how to SOLVE the school safety issue. CNN sat there and let people who came to offer solutions be verbally attacked, demonized and threatened with violence. Never once did they step in and say h**e-filled speech wasn't helpful. That's because while h**e-filled speech ISN'T helpful in solving ANY problem, it IS helpful in demonizing people and inciting violence against those you disagree with, AND most importantly moving the left's anti-gun agenda along. THAT is what the left cares about, not the murdered children or really solving the problem. It's actually hideous. And that's what Kurt Schichlter's article illustrates. The left has long passed any response besides hatred.

bahmer

Please be so kind as to explain what is an assault rifle or an assault-style rifle. I would be very interested in you explanation.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

If we weren’t living every word you say here I’d toss it as conspiracy ... However the cold facts to it is the mask of the Dem party has not only been lowered, it has been f**grantly tossed before us as a true threat!!! These people do not want the United States to be what it always has been, they want the New World order! How they get there is immaterial, it is just a matter of getting there.

Last week I attended a business lunchoen where there was a serious discussion on the possibility that that shooting in Florida was a front to divert the attention relative to the Russia~ dossier garbage.... The Democrats were being handled their butt and a diversion needed to occur and occur instantly....As I started listening to them I continually dismissed what they were hypothetically suggesting. And on my way home from that luncheon I found I could not so readily dismissed it....

These children went about saying the things they did entirely on their own?? I think not, but lets say they did.. They then organized the rallies and walk outs across the Nation as was done?? I think not and does it not have Soros written all over it?? Of course it does...pppfffttt

I have no reason to doubt you on the payoffs to let things slip by... My sister in law retired at the ripe old age of 43 from the school board because it is all about Federal funding and head counts..Not education, not students... Just dollars and cents.. She told me they weren't even allowed to suspend students that were repeated offenders, disruptive, threatening etc.. Carry and caught with a weapon was no longer
expulsion from school it now was 5 days vacation out of school..Teachers feared some students as much as the students did.. Theft of students books, money and jewlry becoming common, as was teachers purses that once were left in a draw in the room but no more because it simply disappeared..

Big dog

Grow up. We are ALL horrified by the actions of that nut case. But disarming the good guys will only HELP the BAD guys.

bahmer

Time for a Lesson on the Assault Rifle
The Common ConstitutionalistMarch 3, 2018-


Why is this important? Why do we need to know anything about “assault” rifles?

AR-15

It’s important to be able to combat liberal hysteria. Knowledge is power, and if you’re the one in the room who knows this stuff, the rest will be forced to shut up and listen, or leave, lest they reveal their ignorance. There is nothing more important in discussions like these than to arm oneself with indisputable facts.

So what’s an assault rifle? T***h be told, there is no such thing. It’s a made up term that has been adopted, yet essentially has no meaning, except for terms assigned to it for the express purpose of scaring people. After all – an “assault” rifle could only be used to “assault” the innocent – never for defense. See how this works?

Well, if this is the case, why is the AR-15 thusly named? What does the AR of AR-15 stand for? Most claim it of course stands for “Assault Rifle” or Automatic Rifle – right? Well NO, no is does not, because, as I stated, “assault” rifle is an imagined term, and “automatic” rifle should be self-explanatory. If not, I’ll get to it.

The AR-15 stands for ArmaLite Rifle, model 15. ArmaLite is the company that originated the AR-15 all the way back in the 1950s. But ArmaLite makes a variety of other rifles like the AR-10, AR-30, 50, and the M-15. These are also black and scary, pistol grip rifles.

The AR-15 is merely a scaled down, less powerful version of it’s military big brother, the M4, which is a slightly shorter and lighter variation of the M16A2. The M16 was made popular during the Vietnam War. However, don’t ask any Vietnam vets about the M16, especially the early ones. They were crap. Far too over engineered for the jungle.

Now these weapons may all look the same, but they most certainly are not.

First, without getting too far into the weeds, let me clarify one thing. Modern military rifles are not automatic rifles, despite what we see in the movies. Full auto, or fully automatic mode is where every bullet loaded into the weapon is fired by depressing and holding the trigger.

Firing on full auto mode is waste of ammunition and unless you’re only trying to hit the broad side of barn, is also a waste of time. The rifle will jump all over making it very difficult to concentrate fire where it needs to go, without it being braced with a bi-pod, or such device, which isn’t going to happen.

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Military rifles are select fire rifles, normally consisting of three modes, although sometimes it may be four. The three may include: Safety mode, single shot and automatic. In some cases the three may be: Safety, single and burst. The weapon itself will be imprinted: safe, semi (or fire), auto, or: safe, semi, burst. Four mode se*****rs will be: safe, semi (or fire), burst, auto.

Safe mode effectively locks out the weapon making it impossible to fire. Semi, or fire mode means one shot fired for each trigger pull. Burst mode is three shots fired for each pull of the trigger. It is more accurate than full auto and is adequate for suppression of the enemy.

Special operators rarely use full automatic mode. As I said, it is utterly impractical and is a monumental waste of ammunition (ammo), particularly if a team is remote located (in country or down range) and has only the ammo they can carry.

Civilian AR’s have a simple on/off switch – safe and fire – that’s it. Neither burst nor auto is an option.

Regarding ammunition – the civilian AR and military M4 do not even use the same ammo. The M4, M16 and the newer HK416 utilize a military or mil-spec 5.56mm diameter x 45mm long NATO cartridge, whereas the AR fires a .223” diameter cartridge. Although they look identical, they are not, and it all comes down to pressure.

The more chamber pressure that is created when firing the cartridge, the bigger the boom, for want of a term. And in the case of firing a military-spec 5.56 x 45mm NATO cartridge in a civilian AR-15, that boom could prove disastrous.

The .223s are loaded to lower pressures and velocities compared to the 5.56mm. Most civilian AR’s cannot accommodate the pressures created by the military round. Because of this, the over-pressure of the 5.56 round could damage or destroy the civilian rifle and injure the operator. So caution must be observed in purchasing the correct ammunition.

And there you have it – the difference between a military “select fire” rifle and the civilian single fire, semi-automatic rifle. I hope this is helpful the next time you find yourself debating a mindless l*****t about guns.

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

Aint gonna give um my guns, gotta cum and gets em. And theys gonna hav to cum upin to the hills to gets me. I hope you'all know I'm being sarcastic. How they think of an Alabama hillbilly.

Big dog

I'll meet you behind the big red oak above the left fork of the stream just past the big rock that looks like a bear taking a dump. We'll hold off them darn revenues together .

PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama

So, somebody knows what I'm talking about. I remember that place. We'll set up a perimeter, overlapping lanes of fire. Got to set some traps and pit falls. Raised in the hills, had to work the bottom land. The real money was in the stills. Helped pay for my first car runin shine.

Big dog

YEEEE HAA.

lindajoy Loc: right here with you....

Thank You, bahmer for your expertise in t***slating this so effortlessly.. I have read up on them before simply because of the debates pro and con over them... Never owned or tried one, yet...

Each time it left me with one single thought..~ The gun is not the k**ler, the person is and if someone is going to do something so horrific they will regardless of the stop gap measurements we enforce.. Appears the avalabilty of magazine size should be considered .. Instead of being able to buy say 100 round drum magazines why not say 10 to 30 mag size?, only?? Extended magazines certainly enable far more dead, so limit them??
In my humble opinon this is the change we need to make or should make??

“When seconds count the police are only minutes away.” It’s meant to enforce the truism that we are all ultimately responsible for our own defense when the chips are down. But what it really reinforces is the importance of time. Time matters immensely when you’re defending yourself. You need time to do so. You need opportunity. Ban magazines over ten rounds. Give potential victims time so needed ...
Just a thought~~
One final comment~ I can use my semi automatic and thumb to give me my own bump stock..I dont need to buy a thing to have it..Which brings me back to the fact if these mass murderers want they can bump it up with little effort..,

bahmer

If you or anyone is handy in the shop and has a small amount of imagination or if you have ever seen a bump stock it would be fairly simple to make.