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Feb 18, 2018 15:07:53   #
Airforceone
 
It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories that the right wing uses to combat a nut case that can go to the local gun shop pick up an assault rifle walk into a school and shoot kids. The theory ever since Sandy Hook is to deregulate gun control. Trump signed H.J. Res. 40 on Feb 28, 2017 mixing regulations aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of severely mentally ill. Then Trump in his budget cut funds from a federal program that helps states maintain background checks.

Since Sandy Hook there has been 273 school shootings. Democrats have proposed 30 pieces of legislation aimed at combating gun violence. But Trump and the GOP have launched several efforts to loosen Gun Laws.

Now the GOP response its a security issue not a gun issue. Fox news has the right idea throw a back pack or a chair at the guy with an assault rifle. Why do people watch Fox it’s for brain dead people. There next issue was you can attack the shooter with a sling shot it’s a very accurate weapon.
But Trump and his i***t supporters just continue to do nothing while our children get slaughtered in a classroom. But it stands to reason the right wing could care less about Women or children they allow violence against women, they allow and support a Pedaphile to serve in the senate, they allow our children to be slaughtered in our classrooms.
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Feb 18, 2018 15:34:24   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Airforceone wrote:
It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories that the right wing uses to combat a nut case that can go to the local gun shop pick up an assault rifle walk into a school and shoot kids. The theory ever since Sandy Hook is to deregulate gun control. Trump signed H.J. Res. 40 on Feb 28, 2017 mixing regulations aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of severely mentally ill. Then Trump in his budget cut funds from a federal program that helps states maintain background checks.

Since Sandy Hook there has been 273 school shootings. Democrats have proposed 30 pieces of legislation aimed at combating gun violence. But Trump and the GOP have launched several efforts to loosen Gun Laws.

Now the GOP response its a security issue not a gun issue. Fox news has the right idea throw a back pack or a chair at the guy with an assault rifle. Why do people watch Fox it’s for brain dead people. There next issue was you can attack the shooter with a sling shot it’s a very accurate weapon.
But Trump and his i***t supporters just continue to do nothing while our children get slaughtered in a classroom. But it stands to reason the right wing could care less about Women or children they allow violence against women, they allow and support a Pedaphile to serve in the senate, they allow our children to be slaughtered in our classrooms.
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It’s amazing reading all these foolish theori... (show quote)





And here are a couple of things that have come through my Facebook feed recently.
There are no simple answers, but I still think these are food for thought, for sure.





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Feb 18, 2018 15:39:55   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PaulPisces wrote:
And here are a couple of things that have come through my Facebook feed recently.
There are no simple answers, but I still think these are food for thought, for sure.


And here I thought you were better 'fed' than that, but I see I erred once again.

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Feb 18, 2018 15:53:10   #
Gatsby
 
What proposed gun law would have prevented this tragedy, and how?

What proposed gun law would end the carnage in Chicago?

Airforceone wrote:
It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories that the right wing uses to combat a nut case that can go to the local gun shop pick up an assault rifle walk into a school and shoot kids. The theory ever since Sandy Hook is to deregulate gun control. Trump signed H.J. Res. 40 on Feb 28, 2017 mixing regulations aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of severely mentally ill. Then Trump in his budget cut funds from a federal program that helps states maintain background checks.

Since Sandy Hook there has been 273 school shootings. Democrats have proposed 30 pieces of legislation aimed at combating gun violence. But Trump and the GOP have launched several efforts to loosen Gun Laws.

Now the GOP response its a security issue not a gun issue. Fox news has the right idea throw a back pack or a chair at the guy with an assault rifle. Why do people watch Fox it’s for brain dead people. There next issue was you can attack the shooter with a sling shot it’s a very accurate weapon.
But Trump and his i***t supporters just continue to do nothing while our children get slaughtered in a classroom. But it stands to reason the right wing could care less about Women or children they allow violence against women, they allow and support a Pedaphile to serve in the senate, they allow our children to be slaughtered in our classrooms.
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It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories th... (show quote)

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Feb 18, 2018 15:54:47   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
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Just turn on the TV folks, preferably the weather channel n' watch the commercials...They'll quickly have
everyone making an appointment with the nearest medical deitie for their latest coma inducing drugs.
Problem Solved.

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Feb 18, 2018 16:06:57   #
eden
 
PaulPisces wrote:
And here are a couple of things that have come through my Facebook feed recently.
There are no simple answers, but I still think these are food for thought, for sure.


Thank you for posting this. When will the Right
realize that responsible gun ownership is not being questioned.... just the laxity of protocols to keep guns out of the hands of unhinged individuals.

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Feb 18, 2018 16:13:24   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Airforceone wrote:
It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories that the right wing uses to combat a nut case that can go to the local gun shop pick up an assault rifle walk into a school and shoot kids. The theory ever since Sandy Hook is to deregulate gun control. Trump signed H.J. Res. 40 on Feb 28, 2017 mixing regulations aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of severely mentally ill. Then Trump in his budget cut funds from a federal program that helps states maintain background checks.

Since Sandy Hook there has been 273 school shootings. Democrats have proposed 30 pieces of legislation aimed at combating gun violence. But Trump and the GOP have launched several efforts to loosen Gun Laws.

Now the GOP response its a security issue not a gun issue. Fox news has the right idea throw a back pack or a chair at the guy with an assault rifle. Why do people watch Fox it’s for brain dead people. There next issue was you can attack the shooter with a sling shot it’s a very accurate weapon.
But Trump and his i***t supporters just continue to do nothing while our children get slaughtered in a classroom. But it stands to reason the right wing could care less about Women or children they allow violence against women, they allow and support a Pedaphile to serve in the senate, they allow our children to be slaughtered in our classrooms.
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It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories th... (show quote)


I swear, listening to the fallacious tirades from anti-gun wonks is like listening to r****ds trying to tell dirty jokes without punch lines. Anti-gun porn with no orgasms. With all the uncontrollable emotions and sanctimonious passion and no facts in sight, no hint of reason or rational thought, it's like listening to a psyche patient revealing his perverse sexual obsessions.

Well, how's the therapy going so far, doc, making any progress?

Dunno, we've managed to eliminate every type of firearm on earth except one--the AR15. Yep, apparently our patients' are overcome with a completely irrational fear of this thing. They believe the AR15 is the most powerful k*****g machine on earth just behind the 100 kiloton nuclear warhead. We can't seem to get past the "assault rifle" meme, or that the damned thing is a "military styled weapon", and the fact that the AR15 is usually black seems have a significant influence. Black as you know, is the absence of color and is associated with the mysterious, the sinister, with darkness and the negative. Then, there's this thing about the capacity of the ammunition magazines. The "high capacity" meme. In relative terms, 30 rounds is not a hell of lot of ammo, but our patients don't see it that way.

How so? Thirty rounds can do some serious damage.

Well, yes, but now the AR15 paranoids have upped the ante. If you peruse all the rants in the media, in tweets, on facebook, in youtube comments, and the like, you will find an inexplicable obsession with increased magazine capacities. Beyond thirty rounds. Now they are talking about 50, 60, and 100 round capacities. As if these kinds of things were proliferating. Thing is, among law-abiding AR15 owners, a 50 round stick mag or a 100 round electric drum are novelties, these mags are expensive, running between eighty dollars for a 50 round stick up to one hundred and fifty bucks for a spring driven drum. Some quality electric drums run over three hundred. Twenty and thirty round mags go for ten to twenty bucks. Then there is the weight factor. Put a thirty round mag in an eight pound gun and you add another pound. Put a fifty round stick or a hundred round drum in an eight pound gun and you not only add considerable bulk but you have a gun that weighs between twelve and fifteen pounds. It is reasonable to say that probably 90% of AR15 owners don't equip themselves with such novelty items.

What's the prognosis, doc, is there any hope?

I thought so once. But now I don't have much confidence in success. Not since a mentally ill young fella walked into a high school in Florida and k**led 17 people. I mean, how do you convince a mentally disturbed patient that a mentally disturbed individual did the k*****g and that the gun he used is incidental? There is a complete disconnect here. A snake swallowing its own tail.

So, what is the solution, doctor?

Ha, that's the question, isn't it? We certainly won't find it in the highly charged emotions of those who dance on the graves of dead children. We won't find the answer in the rantings and ravings of hoplophobes or in the sanctimonious passions of fearful malcontents or in the ignorant screeds from mentally unbalanced individuals. We won't find the answers in ideologically driven demogogues or in the halls of congress. The answers lie well outside the world of symptoms and effects, outside the field of politics and political correctness. We must look for answers in the disease, in the causes of indiscriminate violence in our society. Psychologists, psychiatrists, sociologists, behavioral scientists, physicians, even philosophers and honest politicians must look beyond the symptoms, the effects, if there is any hope of ever curing the disease.

Let me put it this way, we must first take the k*****g instrument out of the equation and focus on what caused a sick human being to pull the trigger.

Damn, anything I can do to help?

Yes. Pray.

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Feb 18, 2018 16:14:51   #
eden
 
PoppaGringo wrote:
And here I thought you were better 'fed' than that, but I see I erred once again.


Once again the implied lack of character in place of an honest response to a well made and succinct point. This is a complex problem that cannot be addressed by diversionary one liners and morally evasive NRA talking points.

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Feb 18, 2018 16:19:39   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Airforceone wrote:
It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories that the right wing uses to combat a nut case that can go to the local gun shop pick up an assault rifle walk into a school and shoot kids. The theory ever since Sandy Hook is to deregulate gun control. Trump signed H.J. Res. 40 on Feb 28, 2017 mixing regulations aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of severely mentally ill. Then Trump in his budget cut funds from a federal program that helps states maintain background checks.

Since Sandy Hook there has been 273 school shootings. Democrats have proposed 30 pieces of legislation aimed at combating gun violence. But Trump and the GOP have launched several efforts to loosen Gun Laws.

Now the GOP response its a security issue not a gun issue. Fox news has the right idea throw a back pack or a chair at the guy with an assault rifle. Why do people watch Fox it’s for brain dead people. There next issue was you can attack the shooter with a sling shot it’s a very accurate weapon.
But Trump and his i***t supporters just continue to do nothing while our children get slaughtered in a classroom. But it stands to reason the right wing could care less about Women or children they allow violence against women, they allow and support a Pedaphile to serve in the senate, they allow our children to be slaughtered in our classrooms.
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It’s amazing reading all these foolish theories th... (show quote)



Something needs to be done, how about the progt*****rs keep guns out of their insane kids hands?

We know that l*****t progt*****rs are the people raising unstable children with no set of parameters or self control..

Progt*****rs are mostly non existent in structuring their children..

They believe that "it takes a village"..

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Feb 18, 2018 17:00:01   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
byronglimish wrote:
Something needs to be done, how about the progt*****rs keep guns out of their insane kids hands?

We know that l*****t progt*****rs are the people raising unstable children with no set of parameters or self control..

Progt*****rs are mostly non existent in structuring their children..

They believe that "it takes a village"..


Well I never thought the day would come when bing and goggle didn't have an explanation of a word but by golly here it is Progt*****rs

With some searching I found it is actually two words Prog T*****rs

Interesting find .

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Feb 18, 2018 17:35:36   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
4430 wrote:
Well I never thought the day would come when bing and goggle didn't have an explanation of a word but by golly here it is Progt*****rs

With some searching I found it is actually two words Prog T*****rs

Interesting find .
Well I never thought the day would come when bing ... (show quote)


Thanks, I'll make the adjustment..

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Feb 18, 2018 18:51:42   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Gatsby wrote:
What proposed gun law would have prevented this tragedy, and how?

What proposed gun law would end the carnage in Chicago?


Making automatic and semi-automatic weapons illegal, as well as the accessories that convert guns to such would be a good start.
Follow-up with limits on ammunition.


Oh, and reinstate the repealed “NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007”. This helped to keep firearms out of the hands of some mentally ill people. Trump signed its repeal. The only reason I can think of to repeal it is that the authors of the bill thought more mentally ill people should be able to get guns.


http://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-joint-resolution/40?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22firearm%22%5D%7D&r=1

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Feb 18, 2018 18:58:41   #
PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.
 
PaulPisces wrote:
Making automatic and semi-automatic weapons illegal, as well as the accessories that convert guns to such would be a good start.
Follow-up with limits on ammunition.


Oh, and reinstate the repealed “NICS Improvement Amendments Act of 2007”. This helped to keep firearms out of the hands of some mentally ill people. Trump signed its repeal. The only reason I can think of to repeal it is that the authors of the bill thought more mentally ill people should be able to get guns.


http://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-joint-resolution/40?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22firearm%22%5D%7D&r=1
Making automatic and semi-automatic weapons illega... (show quote)


Automatic weapons are already illegal, unless, of course, one pays a fee and has a permit for same from ATF.

For clarification, may I suggest you reread the NICS IAA of 2007?

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Feb 19, 2018 07:20:36   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
Gatsby wrote:
What proposed gun law would have prevented this tragedy, and how?

What proposed gun law would end the carnage in Chicago?



Or any demoncrap controlled city ?

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Feb 19, 2018 07:23:58   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
byronglimish wrote:
Something needs to be done, how about the progt*****rs keep guns out of their insane kids hands?

We know that l*****t progt*****rs are the people raising unstable children with no set of parameters or self control..

Progt*****rs are mostly non existent in structuring their children..

They believe that "it takes a village"..



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