Blacksheep

There's an argument going on right now because of Darren Aronofksy's forthcoming epic "Noah," over the actual appearance and size of the ark. The Bible says it was 300 cubits (about 450 feet) long, 50 cubits (about 75 feet) wide, and 30 cubits (about 45 feet) high, but a 3700 year old Mesopotamian clay tablet says it was actually a giant coracle, which is a round boat. That makes sense if there actually was an ark, because it didn't need to be steered, just float.

But here's the thing. Creationists believe that every critter on the planet including humans were created out of thin air in a matter of a few days, by God, except that God went to extra trouble to make us and used some clay for the first one and a rib from the first one for the second one.

So okay, maybe God was a little lazy when he decided to wipe out all the people on Earth except for Noah and his family, and that's why he saved them. But why go to all the trouble of saving two of every animal when all he had to do was flash them back into existence again when the flood subsided? Do any of you have some Biblical quote to explain that? I don't want to hear something that you made up, "Well, I THINK it was because...". None of that, okay? Just what the Bible says is the reason.

Later on we should talk about how it is that DNA research shows that humans are related to other, and very ancient other, creatures and how that makes Creationism a pack of poo, but we can hold off on that for now.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

Deuteronomy 6:16

Blacksheep

Too lazy to tell us what that is? Type it out, don't quote the location of some verse. Or did you just make that up?

Blacksheep

You forgot Fellatio 69 and Suzie 24/7. Not everyone owns a Bible and not everyone who does should have to look up quotes all day, you inconsiderate, lazy f--k.

I knew no one would be able to offer anything. The whole story is just one more parable. There never was an ark. What there was, was local floods of major proportion caused by the melting of glaciers and the "unplugging" of all that water by ice dams in various parts of the world. Torrential rains brought on by the warming trend would have helped melt those ice dams in a hurry.

Ve'hoe

Straighten out your accusatory doctrine,,, you are purposefully distorting and ridiculing others beliefs and you know it, with the ridiculous points you attribute to them.

Even the American Indians have the story of the great flood and a man with a Great Canoe, (what they would have called a ship) the salish called it a "great raft"

Intelligence, would look at the similarity of the story, the common thread where no known contact can be discovered, and just like the archeologist determine that all those separate people must have had a common observation of an event.... not that there were clusters of morons all over the world, who past along the same word of mouth "wiki-lie" from the i***t of a neighboring village...
That "logic" or lack thereof, bespeaks more of the superstition of the teller, than the idiocy of the original story.

Can you not actually see the dichotomy in your own rationale??

Really???

Ve'hoe

Well, you are wrong about Gus,,, and I believe you mistake his offering you the answer for laziness,,, where instead, he is telling you to educate yourself, before berating others for the same glaring error in your education....

So, now, two more intelligent people have identified a shortcoming in your argument style and delivery,,, when exactly are you going to engage that gigantic brain of yours and use it on yourself??

Otherwise for embarrassments sake quit calling yourself "conservative" while acting like a liberal..

Ve'hoe

Fire up your discussion on creationism, if it is like your biblical debunking discussion it wont be very hard to do,,,

But what I am beginning to believe is there will be no point, because you are prostheltying, not discussing and your religion is disbelief....

Blacksheep

So you're saying that the Indians also built an ark? Hmm. Can you quote from the Bible that Indians built arks too? No, of course not. You're doing exactly what I asked you not to do, which is post a bunch of "Well, WHAT I THINK IS...." crap.

The great floods of Indian legend did happen, they washed down from the northern parts of what is now the USA, on both sides of this continent, and remodeled the landscape considerably. Once again, caused by the melting of ice dams holding back vast quantities of fresh water.

Blacksheep

THE QUESTION IS, for those of you with poor reading sk**ls and lack of short term memory,

can you give a reason, straight from the Bible and nowhere else, why an ark was needed at all when all those animals could have been re-created in an instant?

Blacksheep

I'm waiting.

Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE

If I quoted the Hebrew, I didn't think it would edify you. There are numerous various manuscripts, t***slations, and paraphrases. You can look it up online.

There you can get the sense of the quote, if you are capable of getting the sense of the quote.

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

This is a legitimate question Adaada. But what you are asking is for someone to explain what was in the mind of God. That is impossible. Romans 11:34 says. " Who has known the mind of The Lord? Or who has been His counselor. "
So on the subject of the question you pose. No man can answer. And I understand why you don't believe. The bible contains accounts that seem impossible to be true. You are free to believe as you will. And we are not obligated to prove or explain the wisdom of God since we are only men

Blacksheep

If you can quote Hebrew, you can quote English. Start typing or get lost.

Blacksheep

Once again, THE QUESTION IS, for those of you with poor reading sk**ls and lack of short term memory,

can you give a reason, straight from the Bible and nowhere else, why an ark was needed at all when all those animals could have been re-created in an instant?

Not one of you has given a straight answer. You dodge by calling me names, making some other personal attack on me, referring to some supposed Bible passage that you refuse to repeat, and so on.

The fact is, there is nothing in the Bible to explain away the glaring error in the Ark parable, that if creation is true, why God would go to so much trouble to save all the animals.

The Ark story is based on ancient parables that in themselves conflict with each other. I really don't care one way or another which one anyone believes or disbelieves, none of it has anything to do with the existence of God anyway.

My purpose in this little exercise is to show you Creationists what kind of people you really are. Not one of you tried to actually answer the question honestly. Instead, every one of you attacked me for asking the question. Can you see why some of us think you suck?

Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas

No man can answer your question. No man owes you an explanation.