pafret wrote:
The question of the State's rights and ability to secede from the Union was decided by the Civil war.
I tend to disagree. First, there was nothing 'civil' about that awful war. It was an invasion of a group of sovereign States by another group of sovereign States. The only question 'settled' by that war was who was the stronger and more aggressive. The Confederate States had every right to up stakes and go home any time they felt like and the exercise of that right was denied them by force of arms. That 'decided' nothing.
pafret wrote:
What is required now is a declaration of war by Congress and executive orders mobilizing the National Guard, of as many states as are needed to occupy California and place the state under martial law.
Hold that thought! Declare
war? Seriously? On what pretext? Besides their obviously dubious choices in elected representatives, what is their imminent threat to these United States? To raise an army of occupation and declare a sovereign State under martial law certainly harks back to the War of Northern Aggression. Were no lessons learned from that spectacle?
pafret wrote:
The military can round up every alien in the state and lock up any felons plus deport the rest.
Illegal aliens. Many residents of California are there legally and legitimately. It's the illegal ones that should be herded back across the border.
pafret wrote:
The Governor and the State Legislature can all be arrested and tried for treason.
Again, Californians' choices of representatives is suspect to be sure, but to say that the State Legislature has been levying War against these United States, or adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort is quite a stretch. I doubt it can be stretched that far.
pafret wrote:
The Congress can then decide the future make up of the State and divide it in a manner that will prevent California from ever having such enormous clout in the future.
Even the Union occupation forces did not attempt to redraw State borders or dictate to the people their national makeup. That is most assuredly a 'bridge too far'.
pafret wrote:
It is past time to end the silliness that emanates from the cesspool cities of the west coast. They are only the tail, not the dog.
Yes! I couldn't agree more! Let them go their own way and graciously accept them back into out benevolent Union when they've well and truly learned their lesson! Let them spend the next ten or twenty years totally screwing themselves then see if they're still so gung-ho on socialism. Just ask any Venezuelan what he/she would do if there was a choice of stay there or come to the US and see how quick they would move.
I recommend leaving California to its own devices for a while and letting this lunacy play out, sans the input of 'other peoples' money'.