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Mar 25, 2014 16:20:07   #
jetson
 
rumitoid wrote:
Country has no place in the Christian vernacular. We are to be forever and steadfastly strangers and aliens in all kingdoms and governments. Citizens of heaven. Ambassadors of his rule and no other.


This is foolishness to say what you said. We should separate Church and State, But not God and State. Our laws and constitution was found on God and His word. This does not affect the freedom of religion. What hangs behind the supreme court justices. We should never let Sheria law into our country. This is the USA. They can worship what they like, but never have our laws changed, to suit them, or remove our laws or allow any other religion ,to do so.

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Mar 25, 2014 16:24:23   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
Neal wrote:
People generally take me for a gentleman, though in the face of uncivilized behavior or misleading language I sometimes display a certain sharpness.

Mid 20's at night? Got a spare bedroom? I don't eat much - honest!

The weatherman predicts some daytime 50's for us next week which would cause a growth spurt in the spinach planted last fall in our cold frame. Mmmm mm - time to whip up a bowl of great granma's spinach dressing!!


Mmmmmm Send me some. We have Easter lillies blooming on southsides where the sun hits. Hang in there Ole man Winter has to let go soon.

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Mar 25, 2014 20:28:16   #
NanaSue57 Loc: Georgia
 
Armageddun wrote:
Amen. He needs to know that God loves him just as he is.

Remember the Billy Graham crusuade song? "Just as I am." One day the Lord and him will have an encounter and he will become a new creature, his whole life will be brand new. I know, I was a worse sheep than him I bet. If Jesus can save me, He can save anybody. Right now we just need to exercise love and patience with him as he learns through nature and lifes experiences. God will place stepping stones in his life like He does all of us.
Amen. He needs to know that God loves him just as... (show quote)


Absolutely, as He did the same for me. Prayer changes things...and people. I'm so thankful we have a God who hears us!

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Mar 26, 2014 16:49:10   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
jetson wrote:
This is foolishness to say what you said. We should separate Church and State, But not God and State. Our laws and constitution was found on God and His word. This does not affect the freedom of religion. What hangs behind the supreme court justices. We should never let Sheria law into our country. This is the USA. They can worship what they like, but never have our laws changed, to suit them, or remove our laws or allow any other religion ,to do so.


Jetson MAy I say I think you may have missed his point. Read Phil. 3:20

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Mar 26, 2014 17:45:59   #
scottyb
 
B****sheep wrote:
Oh, gnashing of teeth! Loud moaning! Golly gosh darn dang it, too, by golly.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Not only is Christianity not the only religion practiced in America, but less people are practicing religion at all. Before you start whining and moaning about the terrible awfulness of it all, take a breath and consider WHY this is happening.

You have the Catholic Church revealed to be a bunch of child molesters and even Catholics have turned away from their church by the millions over this.

You have the Creationists making total asses of themselves by insisting that evolution isn't a fact, that everything came into being in a few days, and that no creature has changed over time in spite of not only the fossil record but the recent record.

You have that jackass minister who I hear died recently, finally, the one who behaved horribly at the funerals of soldiers.

You have people like Obama's tutor, Rev. White and his "God damn America", and the list just keeps going on. You have the Far Right acting like they own Christianity with their Right To Life crap and the atheists raising hell over creche displays at Christmas, and all the MSM and retail outlets saying "Happy Holidays" instead of Merry Christmas.

You think it's just one thing? It's a pile of things. I have God in my life though I don't subscribe to any organized religion, and it's the hypocrisy I found in all of them that turned me away.
You want to know why Americans are turning away from religion? It's because of all the discord among you, all the pushy proselytizing, the politicizing, the child molesting, the screaming.

I read what a lot of you so-called Christians have to say here and most of you leap to attack, viciously attack, anyone who disagrees with you. YOU are why Americans are turning away from Christianity as much as anything else.
Oh, gnashing of teeth! Loud moaning! Golly gosh da... (show quote)

Ite
Your very first sentence showed you to be the very hypocrite you go on to whine about.

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Mar 26, 2014 18:05:01   #
migeli
 
scottyb wrote:
Ite
Your very first sentence showed you to be the very hypocrite you go on to whine about.


All you said is that he is a hipocrite, without saying why.Everything he said is true and makes sense.Whats not to like?

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Mar 26, 2014 18:23:20   #
scottyb
 
migeli wrote:
All you said is that he is a hipocrite, without saying why.Everything he said is true and makes sense.Whats not to like?


Than you need to read it where he posted it in the thread. He is attacking thru out his post about people attacking to a woman who wasn't attacking. That's the definition of the word hypocrite.

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Mar 26, 2014 18:27:28   #
migeli
 
I think Armageddun and his friends are talking in code and there is something more sinister afoot.

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Mar 26, 2014 21:10:55   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
migeli wrote:
I think Armageddun and his friends are talking in code and there is something more sinister afoot.


You must be born again.

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Mar 27, 2014 09:58:34   #
jetson
 
Armageddun wrote:
Jetson MAy I say I think you may have missed his point. Read Phil. 3:20


Has nothing to do with my post

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Mar 27, 2014 11:10:38   #
Armageddun Loc: The show me state
 
jetson wrote:
Has nothing to do with my post


Sorry

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Apr 7, 2014 08:32:54   #
mcjwelles
 
jetson wrote:
We took prayer out of school/////removed Christ off public property. In other word threw Him off the land, He created and owns. How would you like it if someone came and tried, to threw you off the property, you have a clear deed to. Removing the Bible. We are trying, to remove Him completely out of our lives. Even the movie industry, when you see a prayer, in one in their films, you hardly ever hear, in the name of Jesus Christ, at the end of it. Just maybe, He is getting a little upset with our denying Him. Is he increasing all these tornators, earthquakes and other things, to open our eyes for us, to come back, to our first love. Why do we have an evil political administration. Something is wrong. Why all the fighting with words on this very website. Something is wrong. Something is badly wrong. America I believe we will see more and more of the Lord's Judgment on us, if we continue on this road. The Churches are teaching false teaching, traditions of man. Preachers are preaching for money. They are not preaching the cross, or there is no forgiving of sin without the shedding of blood, which was shed by Jesus Christ. They are preaching a feel good Gospel. Many are even charging us to buy tickets to hear them preach. Something is wrong.
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What makes you think that Native Americans, eradicated by the New Christian presence, were off base in their far older traditional beliefs? How does your belief system relate to the Founders' uniformly aChristian secularism? How does Christianity support Capitalism, Social Darwinism (that the Right seem to espouse today) or the 'throwing of stones' at those who are 'different' or 'minority'? Why do you think that without Christian belief there can be no morality? What is with the Christian Right who seem always ready to commit our nation to War??? What would Jesus say?

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Apr 7, 2014 08:37:25   #
mcjwelles
 
NanaSue57 wrote:
We need to pray him through the Door.


Two hands working accomplish more that a thousand hands praying

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Apr 7, 2014 09:05:28   #
mcjwelles
 
Brian Devon wrote:
You don't need deep conspiratorial research to unearth the Clinton sins. They are all there up front and center for all to see. I'm not talking about Bill's "romantic" adventures.

I know I must sound repetitive but I really am deeply troubled by the idea of a Clinton 2.0 presidency.

Just a quick review:

Bill Clinton pushed through NAFTA, which caused many high paying jobs to be outsourced to Singapore, China, India and Mexico, where the multi-nationals could pay vastly lower wages and not have to worry about the EPA forcing them to protect clean water and air. *(You have a thin understanding of NAFTA: For one, the US had enjoyed such prosperity we had grown into a consumer nation unable to compete in the world marketplace. The Bush Recession was certainly exacerbated by this fact and NAFTA attempted to t***sition our country toward a sustainable market position. It would never "Feel Good" but it was a necessary response for a viable economic future. That fact has not been disproven at all.)*

Bill pushed through the repeal of the Glass-Steagal Act, which prevented banks and brokerages from having overlapping interests. It was originally passed during the depression to prevent another financial collapse from happening again. Result of the repeal? Brokerages started bundling and trading mortgages like they were baseball cards. Economic depression? You betcha. *(That's is one theory.....)*

What about the short version of Hillary's sins?

Being a shill for Wall Street. Taking $400,000 for two speeches to Goldman Sachs. *(Speech for profit is hardly unique- shill for wall street is pretty interpretive- even if I am no fan of valuing unearned wage of hard work, this is how our free market system works. You aren't some socialist type are you???)*

V****g in favor of launching a war against Iraq. *(Solidarity with the duly elected CinC, Bush, during national emergency seems unfortunate in retrospect- because of the bad decision-making, but is hardly inappropriate)*

Being opposed to international land mine treaties (Its not her children losing arms, legs, eyes, and lives). *(Not the reason she v**ed nay- read more and cut and paste less)*

Being opposed to restrictions on armaments sales to the nations with the worst human rights violations. *(Again, not the reason for her v**e- more poorly informed cut-n-paste)*

Bill and Hillary jointly? How about the fact that they are really more an English royalty type merger rather than a genuine marriage. *(You are going downhill fast now)*

Clinton Inc. is now worth over a $ hundred million. Isn't it incredible how well they have invested Bill's p**********l pension so well? Think they might owe anyone some special favors? *(Getting even more confused- When speaking of your own you generally see wealth as proof of merit and free-market, trickle-down at work for freedom and prosperity. Which is it???)*


No need to get into black opps and clandestine interviews in an underground Watergate garage. Their danger to this nation is out there as plain as day. The Democrats, especially, need to wise up to the danger these people present to working Americans and vulnerable innocents in third world countries. *(Blackwater, Martial Law Lite, Scuds and Drones, Special Forces, Renditioning, Pre-emptive War Doctrine...?)*

It takes a whole village to raise a child, Hillary? *(Correct- community is crucial- Me-the-People is not the America I love. Jesus agrees.)*

How about, "it takes a whole village to bury a child that has stepped on a land mine?"
You don't need deep conspiratorial research to une... (show quote)
*(Again, not why she down-v**ed the land mine bill- Read a bit more.)*

I have a variety of reasons why I am less than enthused with H Clinton- but none of the above GOP talking points of semi-fact. What tips the balance in her favor is A)- that she has matured since her First Lady and Senate days into somebody I could live with in the White House and, unfortunately, the GOP candidates who are emerging measure up but poorly in comparison. Find a GOP "Statesman" to run on a coherent platform and get back to me.

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Apr 7, 2014 09:23:13   #
mcjwelles
 
How to stop this? Don't be Catholic, don't keep that ancient religion and it's gross traditions alive here in America as Jesus warned us.

Obey the Commandments! ...and don't forget the important, oft-ignored 11th: "Thou shall not comfort thy staff with thine rod."

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