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Feb 5, 2018 13:14:48   #
1ProudAmerican
 
Alicia wrote:
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Now that's a stupid retort to someone who was being helpful. Why have you not commented on the many times this advice was given -- only to Singularity. It seems as though your "lather" is a bit sudsier when directed toward a liberal-minded member of this forum.


At the time of my 1st post on this subject, THESE were the ONLY posts

****Kevyn (a regular here) Joined: Jan 27, 2014 Posts: 8437
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?

*****no propaganda please (a regular here) Joined: Feb 11, 2014 Posts: 21290 Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
Kevyn wrote:
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?


It is no more appropriate than stealing food from the grocery store or going to a fancy restaurant and not paying for the meal because you want it and you want it now and nothing else matters in your self centered world.

****Kevyn (a regular here) Joined: Jan 27, 2014 Posts: 8437

no propaganda please wrote:
It is no more appropriate than stealing food from the grocery store or going to a fancy restaurant and not paying for the meal because you want it and you want it now and nothing else matters in your self centered world.

I am willing to bet that if you asked most of the women on OPP what they would be more upset about, their husband pinching an apple from the grocery store or getting his pipes cleaned by a porn star while out of town on a junket you would get a pretty consistent answer.

****PeterS (a regular here) (online) Joined: Jul 2, 2014 Posts: 21658

Kevyn wrote:
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?

You have to understand. With Trump, whether his wife was pregnant or not made no difference to his willingness to chase pussy so it's really not a fair question. The real question is why would Christians support a man who had absolutely no regard for his wife or family? After all, if selling a wedding cake to a same sex couple is against your moral values then it would seem that v****g for an unrepentant adulterer would be an equal sin--would it not???

++++MY response was….++++
1ProudAmerican (new user) (online) Joined: Jan 31, 2018 Posts: 53

WOW, when I first joined I only SUSPECTED that some of you are 12yo ...now I KNOW ....good thing you wear diapers to catch "it"....
What a bunch of gullible gonads you "boys" are.

+++++It was directed at ALL the previous posts+++++

****Singularity (a regular here) (online) Joined: Mar 21, 2014 Posts: 7554

1ProudAmerican wrote:
WOW, when I first joined I only SUSPECTED that some of you are 12yo ...now I KNOW ....good thing you wear diapers to catch "it"....

What a bunch of gullible gonads you "boys" are.


Unless you use quote reply to indicate where your remarks are directed in relation to the conversation, it appears you are just crashing in to scream invective at unclear targets.

When you use quote reply, it is clear to whom your screaming invective was intended.


+++++THREE people had posted, my reply was to ALL of them since their posts were all of the same ilk.+++++

+++++1ProudAmerican (new user) (online) Joined: Jan 31, 2018 Posts: 53

Singularity wrote:
Unless you use quote reply to indicate where your remarks are directed in relation to the conversation, it appears you are just crashing in to scream invective at unclear targets.

When you use quote reply, it is clear to whom your screaming invective was intended.


Considering you had not posted prior to MY response to the "boys", what are you in a lather about? If you'd like to be included, let me know.....

+++++THREE people posted, I responded to ALL 3….difficult to follow??+++++

Should I have posted ALL of the 3 responses as I did just NOW or perhaps:

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Feb 5, 2018 13:51:35   #
buffalo Loc: Texas
 
no propaganda please wrote:
It is no more appropriate than stealing food from the grocery store or going to a fancy restaurant and not paying for the meal because you want it and you want it now and nothing else matters in your self centered world.


So, is appropriate as long as one pays for it? That is illegal in most places in the US...

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Feb 5, 2018 15:14:01   #
Radiance3
 
Kevyn wrote:
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?


====================
Many women are hookers. Be careful ladies and gentlemen. Don't be victims!

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Feb 5, 2018 16:02:42   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
drlarrygino wrote:
At least Trump is a man and not a fairy boy homo like your confused pervert, Ovommit!! Trump didn't commit rape or fly to Epstein Island like the rapist and p*******e, Billy Bob Clinton.





7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex S***e Island
ByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMO
@amandapresto
May 9, 2016
Presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Hillary Clinton when it comes to her husband's escapades. "The kitchen sink," in this case, is Jeffery Epstein's “Sex S***e Island” and President Bill Clinton’s ties to it.

Why wouldn’t Trump use this ammo? The answer is simple: Trump himself has ties to Epstein, the billionaire Democratic donor and convicted p*******e known for having under-age sex s***es on his private plane and what the media calls "Sex S***e Island."

Here are seven connections between Trump and Epstein's sex s***e endeavors that you need to know about:

1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “a lot of fun to be with,” adding that he admired the sex offender's affinity for beautiful women “on the younger side.”

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump once said about the convicted sex offender. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “little black book.”

Epstein’s “little black book” was stolen by a former employee in 2004. The book, nicknamed "The Holy Grail" by the employee, revealed the name of Donald Trump and listed “14 phone numbers including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump's security guard and houseman.”

3. Trump has allegedly flown on Epstein’s private plane — a hot spot for under-age sex orgies.

“Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once,” reports VICE News. “Meanwhile, message pads [see below] from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004.”

Epstein’s private Boeing 727, according to one of his alleged victims, Virginia Roberts, was nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” Roberts recalled “unsavoury” sex orgies on the private plane when she was just 15 years of age with Epstein and his friends.

4. Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl.

Radar Online reports that a woman in California, “identified” as Katie Johnson, filed a $100 million lawsuit against Trump on April 26, accusing the real estate mogul of raping her when she was just 13 years old.

Johnson “claims Trump raped her when she was 13-years-old and forced her to engage in sex acts by threatening to harm her and her family,” notes The Independent UK. “She claims the alleged abuse took place over a four-month period at underage sex parties held in New York City in 1994.” Epstein was also named for alleged sexual misconduct and threats.

Trump’s team adamantly denies the accusation, suspecting the claim is possibly a h**x since there is allegedly “no evidence” the plaintiff “actually exists.”

5. Epstein admitted to knowing Trump under oath, and curiously pled the fifth to Trump attending sex parties with underage girls.

Back in 2010, Epstein admitted to “socializing” with Trump, but when a lawyer representing an under-aged victim of Epstein’s asked if he has “ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18,” Epstein curiously pled the Fifth. Per Vice News:

Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.

6. At least one of Epstein’s underage sex victims was recruited from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago — which he frequented often.

Virginia Roberts, an alleged victim of Epstein’s, "was recruited to perform a massage for Epstein while working as a $9-per-hour locker room attendant at Mar-A-Lago.”

Roberts claims that “Epstein turned her into a ‘sex s***e’ and pimped her out to various friends, including England's Prince Andrew. Over the years, the passengers on Epstein's jet, she said, included ‘a whole bunch of other girls, sometimes famous people, sometimes some politicians.'"

7. Trump was subpoenaed in 2009 for his connection to Epstein’s under-age sex s***e rings. Trump has denied ever being served.

In 2009, Trump was subpoenaed in a case against Epstein concerning victim Virginia Roberts. Trump's attorney Alan Garten said that the subpoena "never happened."

"There is no debate over what happened," said one of Roberts' attorneys. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."

Additionally, Garten told VICE News in January that Mr. Trump has "no relationship" with Epstein other than the Democratic donor frequenting Trump's Mar-A-Lago. "A lot of people hung out there, including Jeffrey Epstein," said Garten. "That is the only connection."

According to the evidence, however, the connections with Epstein appear to go a lot deeper than that.

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Feb 5, 2018 19:37:51   #
1ProudAmerican
 
permafrost wrote:
7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex S***e Island
ByAMANDA PRESTIGIACOMO
@amandapresto
May 9, 2016
Presumptive Republican p**********l nominee Donald Trump has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Hillary Clinton when it comes to her husband's escapades. "The kitchen sink," in this case, is Jeffery Epstein's “Sex S***e Island” and President Bill Clinton’s ties to it.

Why wouldn’t Trump use this ammo? The answer is simple: Trump himself has ties to Epstein, the billionaire Democratic donor and convicted p*******e known for having under-age sex s***es on his private plane and what the media calls "Sex S***e Island."

Here are seven connections between Trump and Epstein's sex s***e endeavors that you need to know about:

1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “a lot of fun to be with,” adding that he admired the sex offender's affinity for beautiful women “on the younger side.”

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump once said about the convicted sex offender. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “little black book.”

Epstein’s “little black book” was stolen by a former employee in 2004. The book, nicknamed "The Holy Grail" by the employee, revealed the name of Donald Trump and listed “14 phone numbers including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump's security guard and houseman.”

3. Trump has allegedly flown on Epstein’s private plane — a hot spot for under-age sex orgies.

“Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once,” reports VICE News. “Meanwhile, message pads [see below] from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004.”

Epstein’s private Boeing 727, according to one of his alleged victims, Virginia Roberts, was nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” Roberts recalled “unsavoury” sex orgies on the private plane when she was just 15 years of age with Epstein and his friends.

4. Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl.

Radar Online reports that a woman in California, “identified” as Katie Johnson, filed a $100 million lawsuit against Trump on April 26, accusing the real estate mogul of raping her when she was just 13 years old.

Johnson “claims Trump raped her when she was 13-years-old and forced her to engage in sex acts by threatening to harm her and her family,” notes The Independent UK. “She claims the alleged abuse took place over a four-month period at underage sex parties held in New York City in 1994.” Epstein was also named for alleged sexual misconduct and threats.

Trump’s team adamantly denies the accusation, suspecting the claim is possibly a h**x since there is allegedly “no evidence” the plaintiff “actually exists.”

5. Epstein admitted to knowing Trump under oath, and curiously pled the fifth to Trump attending sex parties with underage girls.

Back in 2010, Epstein admitted to “socializing” with Trump, but when a lawyer representing an under-aged victim of Epstein’s asked if he has “ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18,” Epstein curiously pled the Fifth. Per Vice News:

Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.

6. At least one of Epstein’s underage sex victims was recruited from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago — which he frequented often.

Virginia Roberts, an alleged victim of Epstein’s, "was recruited to perform a massage for Epstein while working as a $9-per-hour locker room attendant at Mar-A-Lago.”

Roberts claims that “Epstein turned her into a ‘sex s***e’ and pimped her out to various friends, including England's Prince Andrew. Over the years, the passengers on Epstein's jet, she said, included ‘a whole bunch of other girls, sometimes famous people, sometimes some politicians.'"

7. Trump was subpoenaed in 2009 for his connection to Epstein’s under-age sex s***e rings. Trump has denied ever being served.

In 2009, Trump was subpoenaed in a case against Epstein concerning victim Virginia Roberts. Trump's attorney Alan Garten said that the subpoena "never happened."

"There is no debate over what happened," said one of Roberts' attorneys. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."

Additionally, Garten told VICE News in January that Mr. Trump has "no relationship" with Epstein other than the Democratic donor frequenting Trump's Mar-A-Lago. "A lot of people hung out there, including Jeffrey Epstein," said Garten. "That is the only connection."

According to the evidence, however, the connections with Epstein appear to go a lot deeper than that.
7 Things You Need To Know About Trump And Sex S***... (show quote)


From one who probably believes we're all going to die because of g****l w*****g...

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Feb 5, 2018 20:02:22   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
Kevyn wrote:
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?


IF YOU were given the chance, would you??

If you are married and find attraction in another then you're not going to be married long..

Happiness is not found in the bed..But it sure goes a long way in making you uhmmmm smile ....”lolol ohhhh hushhhhh up!!

ok serious now~~both social and sexual monogamy in humans is a societal structure rather than a natural state....

"Monogamy “ was invented for order and investment, but not necessarily because it's 'natural....

When you truly love nothing or anyone else could ever take the place of that never ending love.. Monogamy, being by choice, makes all the difference in the world.. It is a love that can not be pierced or trampled on for a moment of bliss that brings a lifetime of regret later..

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Feb 5, 2018 20:27:41   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
1ProudAmerican wrote:
What makes you think I'm not enjoying sparing with the mental midgets here? {They get so titillated when they masterb@te as they type!!!}!

wadda you know about the thrills dept.?LOL
being the mind is like a parachute,only works if you open it.

This forum is Not about sparring or enjoying anything per se It tries and wants to be pretty much up for debate.(if and when common sense and logic come together)albeit Rare.
I've come across what you call midgets(think lunatic asylum) but for the most part,Most seem to be fairly well versed.some Are gonna say slanted but so it goes.(comic relief is needed at times).

I think we can All do without banter/namecalling to the limits it takes in any/either direction
that being said we Try and emphasize '' try'' to come as close to getting and staying on
any given topic as possible given others replies.

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Feb 5, 2018 20:35:13   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
lindajoy wrote:
IF YOU were given the chance, would you??

If you are married and find attraction in another then you're not going to be married long..

Happiness is not found in the bed..But it sure goes a long way in making you uhmmmm smile ....”lolol ohhhh hushhhhh up!!

ok serious now~~both social and sexual monogamy in humans is a societal structure rather than a natural state....

"Monogamy “ was invented for order and investment, but not necessarily because it's 'natural....

When you truly love nothing or anyone else could ever take the place of that never ending love.. Monogamy, being by choice, makes all the difference in the world.. It is a love that can not be pierced or trampled on for a moment of bliss that brings a lifetime of regret later..
IF YOU were given the chance, would you?? br br I... (show quote)


Well Put Linda ; )

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Feb 5, 2018 20:48:13   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
lindajoy wrote:
IF YOU were given the chance, would you??

If you are married and find attraction in another then you're not going to be married long..

Happiness is not found in the bed..But it sure goes a long way in making you uhmmmm smile ....”lolol ohhhh hushhhhh up!!

ok serious now~~both social and sexual monogamy in humans is a societal structure rather than a natural state....

"Monogamy “ was invented for order and investment, but not necessarily because it's 'natural....

When you truly love nothing or anyone else could ever take the place of that never ending love.. Monogamy, being by choice, makes all the difference in the world.. It is a love that can not be pierced or trampled on for a moment of bliss that brings a lifetime of regret later..
IF YOU were given the chance, would you?? br br I... (show quote)


You are a woman after my own heart Linda I concur.this is logic at its finest.

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Feb 5, 2018 21:11:45   #
PLT Sarge Loc: Alabama
 
Yesterday one of your sick post was concerning the First Families sex life, now here you go again. What is your problem ? Is your life so empty that you have to these fantasies ? My thoughts are more on my FAMILY and the state of this Nation. But, I will answer your question only to show that you are the Town I***t that you are. A TRUE man loves his wife, takes vows. Sure a man may be tempted, eyes may stray. The measure of a True man is how he deals with these temptations. What you are alleging has not been proven to be true or false. But really Kev, what does it matter ? This is between them. If your just trying to throw dirt clods, let's talk about Slick Willy. I love my Angel, and miss her everyday. Won't lie and say that I never looked. But I never strayed. I'm guessing you got dropped allot when you were a baby. Never heard of Stormy Danials till all this came up, so what does that tell you ? If this is true, sounds like you maybe a little bit in envy. Grow up Kev, get a real life.
Kevyn wrote:
After your wife gave birth it is reasonable that your sex life was on the back burner for a while while she recovered and with a new baby in the house. That being said if given the opportunity would you go for a roll in the sack with an attractive pornographic actress like Stormy Danials to bridge over the dry spell? Do you feel it is morally acceptable for a married man to fulfill his desires in this way?

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Feb 5, 2018 21:54:57   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
lindajoy wrote:
IF YOU were given the chance, would you??

If you are married and find attraction in another then you're not going to be married long..

Happiness is not found in the bed..But it sure goes a long way in making you uhmmmm smile ....”lolol ohhhh hushhhhh up!!

ok serious now~~both social and sexual monogamy in humans is a societal structure rather than a natural state....

"Monogamy “ was invented for order and investment, but not necessarily because it's 'natural....

When you truly love nothing or anyone else could ever take the place of that never ending love.. Monogamy, being by choice, makes all the difference in the world.. It is a love that can not be pierced or trampled on for a moment of bliss that brings a lifetime of regret later..
IF YOU were given the chance, would you?? br br I... (show quote)



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Feb 5, 2018 22:17:39   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
tactful wrote:
Well Put Linda ; )


Thank You, tactful~~ Your name suits You.. I have enjoyed your posts and look Forward to reading more ...

My post is from Experience in a love so great he was all I ever wanted or needed.. His love never questioned ... In fact I can say he taught me true love...
He passed suddenly 7yrs ago at the ripe old age of 46...Missed he is yet his love remains... I was blessed!!

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Feb 5, 2018 22:22:56   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
tactful wrote:
You are a woman after my own heart Linda I concur.this is logic at its finest.


Thank You again tactful.... Very sweet you are and I bet very loving too.. A romantic at heart??

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Feb 5, 2018 22:33:03   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
no propaganda please wrote:


Thank You, npp!!

Let me just say this, knowing you and SWMBO as I do You two have that amazing love that could never be pierced!!! I absolutely know this of you and it is sooo beautiful..

I hope you are feeling better?? I read you took a fall ...In my prayers you are and my special M too!!!❤️🌸🌺

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Feb 5, 2018 22:55:04   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
lindajoy wrote:
Thank You, tactful~~ Your name suits You.. I have enjoyed your posts and look Forward to reading more ...

My post is from Experience in a love so great he was all I ever wanted or needed.. His love never questioned ... In fact I can say he taught me true love...
He passed suddenly 7yrs ago at the ripe old age of 46...Missed he is yet his love remains... I was blessed!!


my condolences Linda,seriously.same almost with my sister.her husband had a widow maker 6 years now gone
he didn't know about,that's the kind of relationship most can only dream of but yeah on your other post
hopeless romantic and big brother to five. they produced two fabulous children that really aren't anymore.
one a teacher( head of mathematics department and History ) and principal there .
two a witty and fun Senior in H.S. young lady she's raising on her own.

by the way I've read and liked many of your posts

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